Pakistanis in Pakistan or abroad?
Pakistanis who believe they are Muslims or those who have rejected their religion?
Hey people,
I'm new here, wanna chat,
later,
Pakikuri
I'm new here too! My thought is I think SEX is evil!
i do not think it is wrong what so ever ...in this day and age we know most of us guys usually are not virgins..i would not care if my wife had lost her cherry to some dude she had loved in the past..cus i know what kinda past i have had
If you are a paki living abroad, does it make it ok?? I dont think so; Just living in America or UK has just made ppl more loose and made ppl not really give a damn about what is rite and what is wrong.
True, you will not find many guys(or girls for that matter...nothing surprises me anymore) living in USA to be virgins but that doesnt make it ok.
Pre-marital sex is wrong in every way shape or form. Even if you are just engaged, it is wrong....why not just wait and make it even more special??
And, Nadia, sex is not EVIL as you may think, i hear it is pretty wonderful...but with the person that you love and are MARRIED to.
Pre-marital Sex is definately NOT allowed in Islam. If someone does commit this act and realizes that it is wrong, then all you have to do is pray to ALLAH(SWT) and ask for forgiveness.
Later
Zman
Well said usman.I totally agree with you .........Jez you said it is wrong,but didnt give any reason(please dont say that its because Islam says so).......................................The most potent drive we have is that to propagate life.We wouldnt have been here if that wasnt the case over2000 million yrs of evolution.A man gets ready to have sex ,at 15yrs or less.Due to the highly specialized society these days,one is not set in their career,till about27 plus yrs.Should you go without it while you are at the peak of sexual drive(for males 16 to 21),I dont know about that.We have to adopt with changing times.............................................Sex is good,and like anything else there are good times and bad times.You would enjoy it more with someone,that you find sexy for one thing and care for as a person.......................................I dont understand when people say that love is good but sex is bad.They are both expressions of same desire,and equally significant part of human behaviour........................................Zman looks like you did a lot of praying .,cheer up ,you havnt done anything as bad as stealing,lying,or hurting anyones feelings.
Why don't you want to hear Islam says not to? Is it b/c you are not a muslim or is it b/c you don't want to hear that is wrong. Sex is not evil-IF it is done lawfully, which in my religion, iSlam, it is unlawful to have sex with anyone outside of marriage. In my opinion of all the muslims i have seen- the ones here seem to be better than the one's in Pakistan. I don't see what's so great about Pakistan anyway.
Jez said --
"sex is not EVIL as you may think, i hear it is pretty wonderful...but with the person that you love and are MARRIED to."
Jez, I hear it's pretty wonderful and I also heard that your body doesn't care whether it's married to the other one or not . . .
then of course. . .these days one never knows what to believe eh?
I think SEX SUCKS not evil but sucks... what's SO.... GOOD ABOUT..never mind. Basically I'd like to say I'm not gay and probably have to have it just because I CAN HAVE A KID THAT'S IT!
If i wanted to hear about Islamic teachings,I would go to a different forum.It is only one of the many point of views.And if I may remind you a significant percentage of people dont accept its teachings.If that is the limit of your thinking ,than we cannot have a meaningful disscussion.Ever heard of the term"beyond good and evil"Right and wrongs are relative to the goal.something wrong from one perspective Can be "right" from another.
Jez,
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say . . .in fact we may even be saying the same thing, I don't know. Let me try again.
I was not suggesting that sex is evil. I was merely insinuating that the human body does not care about social institutions like marriage. It is the "soul" or "conscience" that would have issues with extra-marital sex, I believe. So whether or not one is married, sex can still be wonderful.
I applaud your answer to Quark. Thank you for presenting your view with little to no religious support. You have made a decision in your life based on how you "feel". Now, the fact that your religious beliefs may have influenced your feelings is a totally separate subject. Good for you.
Heeyyyyyyyyy!
What happened to Jez's posting?
Sex? What's that suppose to mean?
hmmmmm ....
ya! what happened to my posting??????????/
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Sex! I have spend a life time to find the substitute and I admit that I failed. There is none.
Sound like you guys aren't getting any. By the way in the early days of Islam things were gradually changing, even Alcohal was not forbidden, it was gradually forbidden. As time went by Slavery ( what Stud mentioned) Alcohal, Pork other other things were finalized.
Beside the religion, or one' faith when U R hot and horney do think about Islam/Christainity/Judiaism or getting some. If that would have been the case, there wouldn't be no sin.
Let us think as human. Sex is God's greatest gift to men.
Gota go and get some more.
guys sex is very over rated....i used to be very very sexually active 4 years ago..until i met my current first desi girlfriend.she is a virgin and because i love i learned to respect that.i would have never thought i would have lasted 4 years without sex but here i am i used to think i had to do it everyweek...sex is over rated ...and as far as my getting married is concern i will tell my wife to be abt my past....cus if she cant live with that i would totally understan..the double standard in our socitey has gone on for to long..we need to change with time
Do you know why it was gradual for all those things to be forbidden? B/c the Quran took more than a few years to be fully finished. He started getting wahi at 40 and died 23 (sorry i know when he died it was a typo) years later. I am sorry you guys probably think i am always preaching, i am not always like this, i have fun, within limits, i am not always saying this stuff, but there are a few subjects i feel very strongly on and one of those is sex beyond marriage.
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