Though i was also dumbfounded by unexpected results in these election - few things are being surfaced that explain them.
Before elections very common seats by almost analysts was with a +_ 5-10 seats error margin.
PML (N) = 90
PPP = 60
PTI = 35
If we look closely formation of govt was near impossible as none of these could form an alliance (at least publicly)
In order to let the democracy flourish a deal was held in pious country between PML (N), PPP and army as army had great reservations and bad blood with Nawaz Sharif). PPP could not be offered govt as incumbency and load shedding and other factors had made it unpopular, Imran was not acceptable to USA due to his high claims of shooting down drones etc. PML (N) could never form govt unless they got some seats that PTI was destined to win (around 35). So PPP had to sacrifice few from Punjab.
So what happened next:
PML (N) suddenly out of nowhere ditched islamic parties (Jamat e - Islami and Fazal Ur Rahman near the elections
PPP stopped all kind of campaign in Punjab (In Sindth in-spite of Taliban factor they campaigned vigorously in corner meetings)
In elections army didnt interfered when there was huge violations of rigging in around 35-40 seats in Punjab at least
What will happen in near future:
Musharff would be flown out of country may be even before oath taking of Nawaz Sharif)
PML (N) wont go for Article 6 against Musharaf as they had been claining for so long
PML (N) wont go after Zardari or pursue cases against them
^ it's mean deal was already done by Between Army PPP and Pmln ?
if yes then why not PTI or PPP! Why PMln? Well. PMNL clean sweep up is quite fishy tho!
^ it's mean deal was already done by Between Army PPP and Pmln ?
if yes then why not PTI or PPP! Why PMln? Well. PMNL clean sweep up is quite fishy tho!
as already explained PPP was the first choice but due to incumbency affect and load shedding etc they were not popular at this stage. PTI was the last choice as it was against establishment (calling troops from Waziristan, calling for shooting down drones) Check Kiani's speech few days back when he categorically called the war against TTP as Pakistan's war. Army is not going to back down after so much blood shed at the hands of TTP.
PML (N) was bound to win majority votes but due to PTI factor it was falling behind 30-40 seats to form a govt.
PPP and PMLN made sure about election result by appointing right men at right posts in election commission, caretaker government, lower judiciary, and education department. This was done to fulfil agreement made by BB and NS in 2007.
We should remember the agreement between BB and NS that ‘their parties would rule and loot their home province, and as far as Islamabad is concerned, BB turn to loot and plunder Pakistan would be first and then it would be turn of Nawaz Shareef to loot and plunder Pakistan’.
Since BB died, PPP decided who rules from Islamabad in place of BB.
So in 2008, PPP took power in Islamabad (as well as Sindh) to loot and plunder according to agreement. PPP made sure that NS is given opportunity to loot and plunder Punjab.
[At the time it was surprising that PPP did not made alliance with PMLQ because doing that would meant, PPP rule Islamabad, Punjab, Baluchistan, KPK as well as Sindh … but agreement was that looting and plundering Punjab would be right of PMLN, so PPP alliance with PMLQ did not happen in 2008 and for that PPP sacrificed the opportunity to loot and plunder Punjab as well as KPK]
Now it is turn of Nawaz to loot and plunder Pakistan from Islamabad and also screw Punjab, whereas PPP is left to loot and plunder their home province Sindh.
As usual loads of bull**** from Altaf's supporter with absolutely no proof.
But one has to acknowledge, each time his predictions are proved a load of crap, comes back without any hesitation with conspiracy theories.
PPP was made disable very easily by Takht e Lahoe and establishment because that Zardari took sole control of PPP in his hand and he was very cunningly pushed out by LHC without a decision in president's double office case . They used Taliban very well to keep Billawal out . You can see this Ali Haider Gailani abduction case .
Good news is this that they failed to stop Nawaz Shareef and there is no hung parliament .
Both parties of thugs (PPP and PMLN) are notorious bad losers and blame each other of rigging whenever they lose election. But one would see that PMLN did not complained of rigging by PPP in 2008 and accepted the result as obedient loser (but they were not obedient loser, they were just complying with understanding of agreement). Now it is PPP turn, and one can see that PPP is behaving as obedient loser, and are not raising any meaningful complains or accusing PMLN for rigging, thus fulfilling their part of agreement.
Well, whatever the situation and whoever lead PPP, one cannot rule out PPP grass root supports in Punjab at many constituencies, but massive rigging happened in Punjab to bring results according to desired agreement between BB and NS.
I am not sure about other conspiracy theories.. may be Saleem is privy to this secret deal between PPP and PMLN.. but I am sure about one thing..
Kayani.. was and is dead against Nawaz Sharif. NS posturing that he will investigate the Mumbai incidence together with Indian investigative agencies surely did no go well with army establishment. Kayani tried his level best to reduce NS.. all these years.
Army is now out of Kayani's control. Every aspiring general who wants to become the next army chief is now lobbying with NS trying to assure his loyalty towards NS. Kayani with a little more than 2 months left as the army chief has no more role to play in anything.. he will just sit back and complete his tenure. From posturing it looks NS will try once more to stop army's double games.. Quetta shora probably is already planning to leave Pakistan before the end of Kayani's term.If NS will succeed this time unlike his past two tenures.. only time will tell.
PPP was made disable very easily by Takht e Lahoe and establishment because that Zardari took sole control of PPP in his hand and he was very cunningly pushed out by LHC without a decision in president's double office case . They used Taliban very well to keep Billawal out . You can see this Ali Haider Gailani abduction case .
Good news is this that they failed to stop Nawaz Shareef and there is no hung parliament .
AP.. You live in Islamabad.. I am sure you have heard stories about Kayani's brother and his closeness with your favorite real estate tycoon.. and who are all those people in that camp.. including the occupier of the most prestigious address in Islamabad..
^^^ MQM ko kiya hua? They have not only gained percentage of votes in Sindh, but also gained NA as well as PA seats in this election. :) I do not think they would be crying.
Anyhow, there were over 60000 polling booths in Pakistan. 800 were chosen from all over Pakistan (NA-1 to NA-272) to do turnout check. Out of those 800, in 43 polling booths count there were more than 100 percent votes, some even around 300 percent votes (that means, booth had more votes than votes registered at that booth). That is sign of obvious rigging. If 43 out of 800 had more than 100 percent votes, than remaining 757 must also be having illegal votes but count did not reached over 100 percent, hence not in list. Well, those booths that was not checked (around 60,000), they must be having similar irregularities too, especially where rigged booth were found.
Most of them in Punjab. I have seen the list but could not recall the numbers. If anyone has the list in detail then please post them.
Anyhow, with such massive irregularities in election, mostly in Punjab, it is surprising that PPP is quite as they are doing their best to fulfil promise of BB given to NS.
Bull-brains cant understand politics of looting and plundering ... or could be partner in loot and plunder, hence pretending :)
Predict every election, then it goes wrong, phir bhi dhitai aur bey sharmi sey aik aur wa hiyaat baat, which is absolutey wrong, with no proof, magar, jab sharm na rahey tu jo chaahey karo
Sachai sun ker pata nahi aap kee kewn sulag rahi hay. :) … waisay ... My prediction of last election was on spot (check my prediction and election result of Sindh ... just remember that PMLQ in Sindh contested election as Independent). As for rest of Pakistan, I did not took into account rigging at such massive scale . :)
Sachai sun ker pata nahi aap kee kewn sulag rahi hay. :) … waisay ... My prediction of last election was on spot (check my prediction and election result of Sindh ... just remember that PMLQ in Sindh contested election as Independent). As for rest of Pakistan, I did not took into account rigging at such massive scale . :)
Hmmm..
Strange!!!
You factored all the rigging plans of MQM in your election predictions.. But failed to anticipate rigging by others.. Strange indeed..
But then you must not have been privy to these rigging plans of others..
