Praying on dargahs & shrines

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Re: Praying on dargahs & shrines

@5amra

So now the question is we can’t make waseela of deceased or dead people? As I have mentioned in my previous post too that if someone is not physically present that does not always means that person is dead . They are not in their biological bodies that does not mean they are dead, they have gone to the world of barzakh( veil), its just their bodies that are in this world , its just the difference of worlds thats it. We people only believe in stuff which we can see with naked eyes. Waseela is neither through physical matter like the body nor through living or dead, rather it is through the positive essence and status of a person whether living or dead. . Waseela, tawassul, zariya, invoking is one & the same thing.

Our Prophet (PBUH) stated the following: “Prophets are alive in their graves.” (Ibn Majah, Janaiz 65)

I just don’t want to go into further explanation, koi faida hi nahi. I don’t want to get labeled with anything as some people on this forum are quite judgmental.
Some people don’t think that dua should be made through waseela which is fine to be on the safe side as we all know that waseele se dua maangna is not “compulsory” but its jaiz, there is no harm in it but calling it as shirk is not right as no one over here is mufti who can pass out fatwas that this is shirk & this is not just like that.

Peace 5amra

Yes, but this is where there is understanding required. After the holy prophet Muhammad (SAW) passed on and his holy body was laid in the maqam it is now in and he (SAW) is alive there … The Sahabah, most likely stopped asking directly from him (SAW) and started asking from his (SAW) close relatives (RA) to do the du’as for them on their behalf.

The way to make du’as is and always has been directly to Allah (SWT). Even durood is to Allah (SWT) … If you want to speak directly to those in the grave there is nothing wrong in sending them Salam … As is the case in Salat … Where we send RasoolAllah (SAW) Salam.

There are 3 different things here … There is a difference between asking someone to do du’as for us, from asking Allah (SWT) to grant us our du’as by using the name of the loved ones of Allah, and asking from the loved ones of Allah directly … The first two are present in hadith … I am not aware of the third type to be present in hadith … I could be mistaken.