Practicing or Appearing?

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thank you to everyone that participated in this discussion......I hope that we all learned something.

I know that I did.

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Lying to yourself doesn't help.

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Something proven here:

Vague question brings interesting but long discussion. :)

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great......thanks for sharing what you learned.

:D

:-)

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:hat: :smiley:

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No Sir no majboori can be used to not wear Hijab Hijab is the order of ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW and women have to do it at any cost if she can't do it in a country than migrate to other country but can't use this word of majboori to not wear Hijab

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Not High ranks to some extent because they followed order of ALLAH the more orders they follow the more higher status they will get

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Peace Shero

Majboori ki baat nahi hai ... The danger is that people think it is not a fard ... hijab is fard - the variables however are how hijab is to be interpreted and how keen people are to follow the interpretation of their choice.

To say hijab is not fard is equivalent to altering the Deen - it is Kufr
To say hijab is not to wear a khimar or cover the head in a certain way - but something else - this is interpretation - this particular one is not the majority opinion - but to take this opinion cannot be called kufr - because there is a basis for it.

Out of the people who DO believe in hijab being a fard - there are several types:

a) Those who believe in the stricter interpretation but do not do it out of weakness/priority
b) Those who believe in the lighter interpretation but do not do it out of weakness/priority
c) Those who believe in the stricter interpretation and do that
d) Those who believe in the lighter interpretation and do that
e) Those who believe in the stricter intepretation and end up doing the lighter interpretation as a way to make it easier for them
f) Those who believe in the lighter interpretation and do the stricter form for extra prudence but only where the priority permits

Priority can be affected by the following:

The place you live in, the society and state of affairs. Migration is a type of jihad ... Many people think that if you can't fulfil your duty in a country then do migration ... It is like asking a person would they rather be slapped or punched ... Both migration and for some people putting on khimar can be difficult ... In which case circumstance avail certain things to be dropped in order for other things to be maintained. This comes from fiqh rulings.

Scholars have deemed it more important TO STAY in our countries not to migrate and adopt concessions/fatwas that they have given. Migration is important only when real oppression is present - To such a degree that a person naturally wants to run away. These days we have no where to run to ... In order to save hijab - we can end up migrating to a country that has other problems.

The people above have further sub-classifications when you consider how they behave towards others in that state ... do they act humbly and nicely or arrogantly and harshly? This distinguishes people even more ...

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Sir only difference is between those who think Niqab is fard or not in other things their is no difference if you don't consider Niqab than other than that everything is agreed that is whole body has to be covered except feet hand and face and no other part of body can be shown and also their are more requirements to it that cloth should be not see through it should be thicker and not tight but really very loose and should not resemble men clothing and also should not similar to Kafirs

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pshht.

Women just look for excuses to not cover themselves up, so they bring up these kinds of arguments.

"I can wear slutty clothes but if i am a good hearted muslim and bla bla there is nothing wrong with my slutty clothes"

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I agree that Hijab needs to be observed. What I don’t agree with, is calling ladies who (for whatever reason) don’t observe it, slutty. :nono1:

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Peace Shero

There are many differences and many different levels of parda ... It is not right for us to say that a woman is not observing hijab if she is wearing less than our expectation of clothes that constitutes hijab. She may have an opinion that she is following which is different from our own.

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hmmm

I'd prefer every human being to have some "islamic" ideals cos Islam aint just for Muslims its for all people.

However in this day and age its not a bad idea to troop the colours either, should reduce the friendly fire anyway... I hope. :/

thats my two cents anyway, :D

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Observing hijab isnt just in terms of attire but also modesty in gaze and behavior, that agreed. How do we interpret covering of the head. Is it an obligatory part of hijab. Are there specific hadith which have used covering of the head as an obligation. I really would like to know. Since like psyah bhai has already mentioned about varying interpretations, I would like to know about various scholars opinion on this! What confuses me if covering of the head is indeed a fard, how can there be different levels of interpretation.

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very good point that I think most fail to realize.

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Be-pardah kal jo aa'yeen nazar chand bibiyaan
Akbar zameen main gharait-e-quomi se gaR gayaa
poocha jo oon se aap ka parda woh kya hua
kehne lageen ke aqal pe mardon kee paR gayaa

Please note that Akbar sahab had no hesitation in staring at total stranger be-pardah bibiyaan and chatting with them. I guess he just wanted some goooood material for his shayeri