Re: PPP is not a party but a 'cult'?
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Re: PPP is not a party but a 'cult'?
For that matter, PML can say that is is over 100 years old. Age of the party doesnt make sense any more, as PPP has changed many a times.....going from PPP to PPPP to PPPPP, PPP-Z, PPP, and a few others that I dont remember. Similar to PML-N, PML-Q, PML-HK, AML and what not.
PPP is still PPP founded by ZAB in 1967 whether you like it or not. It does not matter who is heading it where as others are tonga parties they come and go, they change their colors as chameleon.
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today is mr. Zardari ji birthday guys :D
Re: PPP is not a party but a 'cult'?
PPP is still PPP founded by ZAB in 1967 whether you like it or not. It does not matter who is heading it where as others are tonga parties they come and go, they change their colors as chameleon.
you are right, PPP was made for likes of Zardari.
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Zardari should definetly change PPP name, because its no longer the same party it used to be in BB and ZAB times. most of the sincere and competent guys are sidelined by their own party.
Re: PPP is not a party but a 'cult'?
PPP is still PPP founded by ZAB in 1967 whether you like it or not. It does not matter who is heading it where as others are tonga parties they come and go, they change their colors as chameleon.
Age of a party is not necessarily a matter of pride. Its performance is. PPP could be a million years old, and still have nothing to show for it. And isnt PPP teamed up with some of the same tonga parties that you talk of?
I think you have to accept the fact that now PPP has become a Zardari group, and will remain so, as there are no legitimate heirs of ZAB left.
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In case of PPP any thing doesn't matter .
In the other case
Nothing there which matters .
Don't worry about PPP
It will remain there till we defeat the inner and real enemies of Pakistan .
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In case of PPP any thing doesn't matter . In the other case Nothing there which matters . Don't worry about PPP It will remain there till we defeat the inner and real enemies of Pakistan .
PPP under Zardari is the enemy of Pakistan. party of loochey, lafangays and looterays.
Re: PPP is not a party but a ‘cult’?
Under Zardari its Pakistan Pirates Party 
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PPP under Zardari is the enemy of Pakistan. party of loochey, lafangays and looterays.
I thought ,You are a learned man .
I am sorry , I could not judge .
PPP is an elected representative of Pakistan and result of all elections since 1970 tell the same .
Hope it will continue in future .
This is unfair to say this with out having patience to receive the reply in same tone .
Urdu ka aik mahawra hay
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I thought ,You are a learned man . I am sorry , I could not judge . PPP is an elected representative of Pakistan and result of all elections since 1970 tell the same . Hope it will continue in future . This is unfair to say this with out having patience to receive the reply in same tone . Urdu ka aik mahawra hay Kutay bhonktay rehtay hain ,Karwan chalta rehta hay کتے بھونکتے رہتے ہیں کارواں چلتا رہتا ہے
Itni umar kay ho ker kya aap koh sharam nahin aatee logon koh galiyan detey howe. Kissi koh kutta kehna kya achee baat hai. Aap nay abhi mujhey yehi kaha hai.
Re: PPP is not a party but a 'cult'?
Itni umar kay ho ker kya aap koh sharam nahin aatee logon koh galiyan detey howe. Kissi koh kutta kehna kya achee baat hai. Aap nay abhi mujhey yehi kaha hai.
I am sorry .
Urdu say door rehnay ka Nuqsan hay
Yeh aik mahwarah hay .
Muhawarah aam istamaal hota hay and not for any one personally .
I never say this to any one .
This was for political reasons
And Please read again ,What you said about majority of Pakistani people .
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I thought ,You are a learned man . I am sorry , I could not judge . PPP is an elected representative of Pakistan and result of all elections since 1970 tell the same . Hope it will continue in future .
This is the one argument PPP and its supporters tend to throw out every time, that PPP is the representative of the 18 crore awam etc. Please consider the fact that the election commission recently discovered (after being pushed by PTI), that almost 4 crore of the votes in our national database are bogus. That means that these bogus votes have routinely been used by various political parties in order to achieve their goals.
4 crore mein sey 2 crore to kam az kam hon gay PPP kay.
Perhaps 1.5 crore for PML...
Remainder for MQM, and sundry.
In light of such a huge number of bogus votes, how can anyone say that PPP is the representative of the people? It is not. It is the representative of its mazarays, and haaris, (who happen to have no choice to begin with anyway)
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I thought ,You are a learned man . I am sorry , I could not judge . PPP is an elected representative of Pakistan and result of all elections since 1970 tell the same . Hope it will continue in future . This is unfair to say this with out having patience to receive the reply in same tone . Urdu ka aik mahawra hay
It's evident from your post in which context you have used this 'mahawra', and this is exactly the mentality of jiyalas which pushes people away from PPP.
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I am sorry . Urdu say door rehnay ka Nuqsan hay Yeh aik mahwarah hay . Muhawarah aam istamaal hota hay and not for any one personally . I never say this to any one . This was for political reasons And Please read again ,What you said about majority of Pakistani people .
Mujhey urdu aatee bhi hai aur samjhta bhi hoon, aap koh iss barray mein fike karney kee zaroorat nahin. Zarrorat hai aap koh apnay jazbaat per qaboo rakhnay kee aur likhnay say pehlay soch liya karein kay kiya likh rahein hain.
Re: PPP is not a party but a 'cult'?
Age of a party is not necessarily a matter of pride. Its performance is. PPP could be a million years old, and still have nothing to show for it. And isnt PPP teamed up with some of the same tonga parties that you talk of?
I think you have to accept the fact that now PPP has become a Zardari group, and will remain so, as there are no legitimate heirs of ZAB left.
I don't know what performance are you talking about? Performance of opposition is evenworst. PPP has evolved from controlled economy towards free economy. The change is due to environment and natural. For the time it is Zardari group. But the moment it changes at top it will be then other group. PPP has won almost all the free elections. It is the people who are the judge, not you.
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Mujhey urdu aatee bhi hai aur samjhta bhi hoon, aap koh iss barray mein fike karney kee zaroorat nahin. Zarrorat hai aap koh apnay jazbaat per qaboo rakhnay kee aur likhnay say pehlay soch liya karein kay kiya likh rahein hain.
Some of the comments of participants are totally out of line. They use profanity and very bad language. Reaction is natural, you should not be concerned about it as long it is not profanity, though others use profanity against ZAB, and BB both are dead. Till moderator kicks in and edit them, the comments are there for a longer period of time hence you will see reaction.
Re: PPP is not a party but a 'cult'?
Some of the comments of participants are totally out of line. They use profanity and very bad language. Reaction is natural, you should not be concerned about it as long it is not profanity, though others use profanity against ZAB, and BB both are dead. Till moderator kicks in and edit them, the comments are there for a longer period of time hence you will see reaction.
There is difference between criticising and making fun of political leaders and personal attacks against members here. You need to understand that. Both yourself and AP make fun of political leaders you dont like and use harsh language which is tolerated on these forums. What will not be tolerated is personal attacks.
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This is the one argument PPP and its supporters tend to throw out every time, that PPP is the representative of the 18 crore awam etc. Please consider the fact that the election commission recently discovered (after being pushed by PTI), that almost 4 crore of the votes in our national database are bogus. That means that these bogus votes have routinely been used by various political parties in order to achieve their goals. 4 crore mein sey 2 crore to kam az kam hon gay PPP kay. Perhaps 1.5 crore for PML... Remainder for MQM, and sundry.
In light of such a huge number of bogus votes, how can anyone say that PPP is the representative of the people? It is not. It is the representative of its mazarays, and haaris, (who happen to have no choice to begin with anyway)
First ,This was not for you
I thought ,You are a learned man . I am sorry , I could not judge .
Second , These votes were made in Mush era when Imran was supporting Mush. He was elected on these lists as a first and perhaps last time as a MNA of PTI ,.
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First ,This was not for you
Second , These votes were made in Mush era when Imran was supporting Mush. He was elected on these lists as a first and perhaps last time as a MNA of PTI ,.
There are at least 18 supporters of Mush in the current cabinet, most of whom remained his supporters even after the last elections, including one 'Deputy Prime Minister' who was nominated as one of the possible assassins of Benazir. Very democratic party, representative of the people of Pakistan, indeed.