PPP and the Emergency [merged]

This will be such a shock to PPP diehards who are prone to believing BB’s public statements, yet ignore what she really does in reality.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=10986

Benazir was taken into confidence

Benazir Bhutto was taken into confidence regarding imposition of ‘emergency plus’ in the country and was asked to leave the country as per already finalised deal with General Musharraf, a senior Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) leader based in Islamabad confided to The News on Saturday night.

“The option of imposing emergency and leaving the country on the orders of presidential camp was the agreed upon conditions in the deal between Benazir and Musharraf,” the PPP leader said adding, “We are ashamed of the role played by Benazir and some other PPP leaders and will take appropriate action and measures to sustain the anti-dictatorship image of the party.” The senior PPP leader (not a lawyer) told this correspondent that hatred among some senior party leaders against its leadership was increasing day by day. He revealed that during the meeting of central executive committee of PPP one night before Benazir left the country, almost all the leaders asked Benazir to remain in the country and lead the workers to resist the possible imposition of martial law under the cover of emergency. He disclosed that Benazir assured the top party leadership during the meeting that if she left the country in the next few days, she would be back before November 9, the day she was supposed to address a mass public gathering in Rawalpindi. He said that Benazir was repeatedly requested during the meeting not to leave the country till the announcement of verdict on Musharraf’s eligibility by the Supreme Court, however, she didn’t give any importance to the suggestion of almost all the senior party leaders. Farhatullah Babar, secretary information PPP, when approached by The News said this is a baseless allegation and that his party in the same meeting has announced to oppose imposition of emergency or any other un-constitutional step. He said his party will definitely resist the imposition of emergency at large.

Rehman Malik, who was accompanying Benazir in Dubai, was contacted on his cell phone by this correspondent on Saturday. He neither rejected nor confirmed the inclusion in the ‘deal’ of any clause of imposition of emergency and leaving of Benazir for Dubai at the government’s behest. He however, said if emergency was imposed, he and his party would strongly condemn it.

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Every thing done on plan. Even United States, Britain knows about it. I don't know how much this has to do with the Superme Court verdict. I do believe that emergency would have happened if they have gone in favor of Musharraf. If we are following the news;

  • Our troops are being beheaded
  • Suicide bombs are on the rise.
  • Our former PM was a target of assasination attempt.
  • Our cities are being held hostage by fear. -Open call for assisation for our former PM. Open call by Bin Laden to declare war.

People will die in numbers if government can not contain the extremists elements. This is it. Inshallah victory will be ours. Pakistan will win this war. Ameen.

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deewanay ka khuwab yaan mastanay ki bongi. you can not root out terrorism by killing innocent people or by bombing village after village just bcos your grades are going down and money is not coming in. as for our troops getting killed...well pakistan is at war rite? so them dieing is part of the package when at war. to formulate strategies is the job of the higher ups but seems like they are too busy counting money that they don't give a damn about who is dieing and how.

as for former PM assasination...is that the only reason why should government target terrorists? wht about those 150+ least important civilians? their deaths amounts to $0?

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These are the people BB really listens to, not her party or the people.

Pentagon says emergency does not affect US support to Pakistan

The Pentagon said Gen. Pervez Musharraf’s declaration of state of emergency in Pakistan does not affect U.S. military support, a spokesman said. U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates is monitoring the fast-developing situation, Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said. “Pakistan is a very important ally in the war on terror and he is closely following the developments there,‘’ Morrell told reporters aboard Gates’ plane as he traveled to China. The emergency declaration “does not impact our military support of Pakistan’’ or its efforts in the war on terror, Morrell said of the country, which is a key U.S. partner in the fight against al-Qaida militants. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is taking the administration’s lead in dealing with the situation, Morrell said, and Gates had not spoken to Musharraf and had no plans to during his17-hour flight to Beijing.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=31619

U.S. has no plan to suspend military aid to Pakistan

The United States has no plan to suspend military aid to Pakistan following the declaration of emergency by Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said Saturday. “At this point, the declaration does not impact on our military support for Pakistan’s efforts in the war on terror,” Morrell said. “Pakistan is a very important ally in the war on terror. And he(Defense Secretary Robert Gates) is closely following developmentsthere,” Morrell said. The White House has said that it was disappointed by Musharraf’s declaration of emergency and urged him to stick to the pledge to hold free elections in the country early next year. Musharraf promulgated a provisional constitutional order (PCO) after he declared a state of emergency in the country on Saturday. Media reports said Musharraf took the measure in a bid to reassert his flagging authority against challenges from Islamic militants, a hostile judiciary and political rivals. He also replaced the nation’s chief justice, claiming the judiciary was interfering with the government.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-11/04/content_7008383.htm

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^
mashAllah.

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Man with a Plan: So you think the emergency is being called solely due to Extremist problems?

If that is the case, and Benazir is in confidence, why is she not supporting the emergency rule? Why would the liberals not be taken into confidence on the issue?

I am all for emergency rule by the way. Things are getting out of hand as far as extremism is concerned. I'm sick of it. They need to clean house. I am still confused as to how the heck the Taliban in NWFP managed to capture some hundred soldiers and hold them hostage, and even kill a few under hostage conditions.

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Some news reports are now saying it was Benazir who suggested to the govt to make Abdul Hameed Dogar, the new CJ of Pakistan.

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Another country BB looks to very closely for guidance - the UK - is being very guarded with it’s reaction..

Britain urges restraint on all sides in Pakistan saying it recognizes the threat to peace and security faced by the country.

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The custodian in Ghari Khuda Bakhsh repoted to be found unconsious after hearing ZAB cries from his grave.

Her daughter helping Marshal's law. Tsk Tsk!

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Funny, do you even know ZAB's involvement with the Military pre-Zia?

Bhuttos = Opportunist.

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Not suprising at all.

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Bhutto’s carefully worded and overtly balanced reaction to the Emergency declaration.

Speaking early Sunday on a US TV channel, Bhutto – whose October 18 homecoming parade was struck in a suicide attack that killed 139 people – said **she agreed with Musharraf about the extent of the threat from extremists. **“There is a real threat of a takeover by radical Islamist elements who have grown in strength and stature in the last five years,” she said.

“So there is a collapse of internal security and unless we can restore the authority of government I am afraid things will get worse.” Bhutto added: "I agree totally with General Musharraf that Pakistan is on the verge of destabilisation. I agree with the diagnosis but I don’t agree the cure.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=31625

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^It seems BB is on board. No one from PPP has been arrested though most lawyers, PML-N and Ponum leaders have been.

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I could be wrong but BB may have been under the impression that Mush was going to impose emergency rule as president. But what Mush has done is effectively impose martial law as COAS i.e. Mush may have betrayed her as well. But knowing BB she could be playing a double game here!

If you all think about it **Emergency is a provision in the Constitution, but when the Constitution is suspended (as Mush has as COAS), then how is it an Emergency? This is clearly martial-law **

This is what BB tells CNN.
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/11/03/bhutto.pakistan/index.html#cnnSTCVideo](http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/11/03/bhutto.pakistan/index.html#cnnSTCVideo)

Military dictatorship feeds off extremism and extremism feeds off military dictatorship. Dictatorship needs the extremist threat to justify itself in power. When you suppress the judiciary, media and basic human rights the only way some people would express themselves is thru militancy.

I don’t support PPP and I don’t agree with BB on most things but I think she’s right when she says," I agree with his diagnosis, but not the cure. I believe it is dictatorship which has fueled extremism in Pakistan."

There is even talk of delaying the general election by as long as 2 years! Mush is also taking advantage of the situation in the US. He knows Bush is just a lame duck president serving out his second term. The next US President won’t be sworn in until Jan. 20 2009. So he knows the US can’t put any real pressure on him for atleast another 18 months or so.

May Allah put some sense into the head of this power-crazy dictator - Ameen. May his fate be different from Zia’s.

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Yep, PPP leaders are now saying that they have plans to launch any people's movement against the Emergency, and BB is iff to Islamabad very soon.

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Bhutto won’t rule out talks with Musharraf KARACHI, Nov 4 (AFP) Former prime minister Benazir Bhutto said Sunday that President General Pervez Musharraf’s declaration of emergency rule would encourage extremists but refused to rule out power-sharing talks with him. Bhutto earlier said that emergency rule was tantamount to martial law. Speaking early Sunday on CNN, Bhutto said, “I agree totally with General Musharraf that Pakistan is on the verge of destabilisation. I agree with the diagnosis but I don’t agree the cure. General Musharraf has given supporters and sympathisers of the militants a new lease of life. He has extended their tenure.” (Posted @ 19:28 PST)

http://www.dawn.com/2007/11/04/welcome.htm

Pakistan Bhutto Won’t Rule Out Talks With Musharraf: BBC -AFP

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20071104\ACQDJON200711041002DOWJONESDJONLINE000291.htm&selected=9999&selecteddisplaysymbol=9999&StoryTargetFrame=_top&mkt=WORLD&chk=unchecked&lang=&link=&headlinereturnpage=http://www.international.na

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I can’t believe it. These are all lies. :mad:

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From a news article somebdody posted in another thread:-

[quote]
Meanwhile, it was learnt that Pakistan People’s Party Chairperson Benzir Bhutto recommended the name of Justice Abdul Hamid Dogar for new Chief Justice of Pakistan.

“The top government quarters took BB in confidence on the issue and she nodded in favour of Mr Dogar,” the official stated. To authenticate his information, he said that Justice Dogar was appointed by Benazir Bhutto in 1995.
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why would ZAB cry form his grave, his daughter is following his footsteps, he was a pal of military rulers and himself a civilian martial law administrator. if anything he is very proud of his daughter right now.

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http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=11001

Benazir to hold talks with presidency today

By Zubair Azam

LAHORE: PPP Chairperson Benazir Bhutto will land in the capital Monday (today) to hold vital negotiations with the presidency, The News has learnt. Party sources confirmed to The News that Miss Bhutto will leave Karachi today to reach Islamabad around midday. She is expected to resume the process of parleys with the presidential camp which was earlier put on hold due to apprehensions regarding the fate of President’s office in view of the pending petitions in the apex court. Government sources have disclosed that Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz had briefed cabinet members on the process of dialogue with the PPP leadership during a high level meeting Sunday.

The talks will be focusing on finding a mutually beneficial middle ground for the two parties while the focal point will remain the ‘third phase of transition to democracy’. The two camps are expected to discuss all the possible scenarios after imposition of emergency.