Power of International Pressure and Denialists

This is for the benefit of my dear friends (Faisal and alike) who doubted the power of International Media. Well, Faisal, you might think that the denial of Visa for Krsitof was not done at the higher levels of the Pakistani government. But do you now see how a little op-ed piece in the NYTimes can make Mushi soil his pants? He must be shytting in his pants as we speak. What do you think?

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/16/international/asia/16pakistan.html?adxnnl=1&oref=login&pagewanted=all&adxnnlx=1118927636-Tu2yFljIVlbIEFkD1ERrZQ

Pakistan Lifts Travel Restrictions on Rape Victim

By SALMAN MASOOD
Published: June 16, 2005
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, June 15 - Under pressure from Washington, the Pakistani government on Wednesday lifted its travel restrictions on Mukhtar Mai, whose gang-rape and its aftermath set off worldwide outrage at the treatment of women in Pakistan.

Mukhtar Mai, also known as Mukhtaran Bibi, was to visit the United States last week at the invitation of human rights groups, but she found her name on the government’s list of people barred from traveling abroad. The restriction met with bitter protests from human rights advocates, here and abroad, as well as objections from the State Department.

“We were confronted with what I can only say was an outrageous situation where her attackers were ordered to be freed while she had restrictions on her travel placed on her,” Sean McCormack, a State Department spokesman, said at a briefing in Washington on Wednesday. “We conveyed our views about these restrictions to the senior levels of the Pakistani government.”

Ms. Mukhtar, now in her early 30’s, was gang-raped in June 2002 on the orders of the village council in Meerwala, in southern Punjab Province. The rape was ordered as a punishment because her younger brother was said to have had sex with a woman from a higher-caste tribe, the Mastoi. A month later, investigators said the brother, a boy no more than 12 years old, had in fact been abducted and sodomized by three Mastoi tribesman, and was accused as a cover-up.

Last week, a provincial court ordered the release of the 12 men jailed in the case.
Ms. Mukhtar has been hailed internationally for speaking out about rape and for setting up schools with her compensation money. That prospect of her speaking in the United States made the Pakistani government jittery, human rights advocates say. Government ministers, in turn, have lashed out at human rights activists, claiming that they have exploited the case for financial gain and have tarnished the country’s image.

On Wednesday, the Pakistani interior minister, Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao, announced in Parliament that Ms. Mukhtar’s name had been removed from the list of those barred from traveling abroad by order of Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz.
“'She is free to go anywhere, and there is no restriction on her movement,” Mr. Sherpao said.

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It is a shame that this poor woman came from a poor family and that is why all Guppies didnt really care, if she would have been from a well to do family (that all guppies could relate to) they would all be burning KFC’s or whatever the hell they burn to protest. talking to high level officials etc etc… Double Double…:nono1:

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not really…its more like they use nytimes as a windmane and not think too much…
default action: dont allow her to leave, like any other mazloom wudnt be…without yr useless mags, theyd be forced to waste precious time thinking on a decision in the first place…:snooty:

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^ what the heck is a windmane? Is it a cat staring at a fan on full blast?

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vane naa…vane mane aik hi baat hai…:snooty:

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It would also help if she can get her passport back...

Madhanee, can you ask NYtimes to write another one. Thanks

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Ghalib, I will do that, but tell me did someone ganged up on you too? Good to have you back? where have you been?

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I never left.. just became too lazy to click on "Reply"..

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^ Did someone have pawa (bed post) up your ass? It’s OK yaar, being lazy is no excuse. You have got to keep up posted.

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Madhanee uncle, I really appreciate your efforts to enlighten your dear friends (like myself and alike) on the influence of international media, and to cut paste a single whining/chest-thumping article from your deal ol’ New York Times every day. Its really encouraging to see that while the mighty New York Times can not get one of its most influential reporters a visa to visit a backward, third world country, like Pakistan, they can certainly make their readers think that a dictator ruler has “$hit in his pants”, through an article, that was lacking in substance, based almost entirely on unsubstantiated conjecture and stretched a real news story to unnatural lengths to bring the head of the country as an object of redicule.

Good job. :k:

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I am glad Faisal bhaijan you feel that way. So what do you attribute this reversal of matters to? Al-Ahram or Sharq-ul-Wast?

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Perhaps as simple as a moron in government waking up on the right side of the bed, with a big grin on his face after taking a healthy dose of prune juice to release the constipation that made him put Mukhtaran Mai on ECL.

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are you suggesting that Mushi has no control over the matters of international significance? you know, the rest of the world takes rape and such things pretty darn seriously.

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Perhaps you can enlighten us, from a credible news article, how Mushi is personally supervising the whole Mukhtaran Mai affair and thappa lagaying "Denied Visa" to Mr Kristof. Do you also blame Bush when your car gets a parking ticket?

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May be I do. But we are talking about NYTimes here Faisal. No one should take it lightly. Kristoff has been in Pakistan since the start of the downfall of Afghanistan and has written extensively over Pakistan (and very critical of the Pakistani regime I must add) and his denial (actually revokation) of Visa should be known to whoever is in-charge (if not mushi, then at least his deputy). Trust me, if someone from Pravda is banned from covering the US, the biggest SOB George H W Bush would know about it.

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Its generally understood that New Yorkers have a tendency to blow their own horns excessively and think of themselves as more important than they actually are. The rest of the world pretty much leaves them to do so in peace, so I don’t want to comment on it.

However, NYT is a widely published newspaper, no denying that. Its considered a mouth-piece of left-wingers, so its probably not as influential in present-day Washington DC, compared to, lets say, Washington Post. But thats neither here nor there, in this particular case, as we are talking about Pakistan. I am sure Musharraf knows about NYT atleast. I am not so sure what is Musharraf direct role in managing day to day crime stories, and the case of Mukhtaran Mai. Plus, your original assumption that press in Pakistan is unable to criticize Musharaf openly is factually incorrect based on the evidence available daily on Pakistan’s television channels, and no amount of whining from Mr Kristof that you’d post on a daily basis changes that.

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Faisal you shock me.

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Her picture also appeared on the front page of the National Post - a Zionist mouthpiece. It's appalling to see how the media is exploiting the entire situation at the expense of a raped woman who happened to be a muslim from a muslim country. Why don't we see the pictures of Kashmiri muslim victims raped by the Hindu fundamentalists, or hear about the plight of the chechen women tormented by the russians, or the Iraqi women widowed by the Americans. It won't do the hypocrites any good!

What happened to her is wrong no doubt; and the way this situation is exploited by the west (including Amnesty International ) to denounce and lament muslims as the only repressors of women on the entire face of the earth is just plain disgusting.

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^ woe is me..woe is me.. la la la

Faisal writes "Its generally understood that New Yorkers have a tendency to blow their own horns excessively and think of themselves as more important than they actually are. The rest of the world pretty much leaves them to do so in peace, so I don’t want to comment on it.

Since you didn’t take your own advice, let me help you why NY is important. When wall street sneezes, 2/3rd of the world gets a cold. So know your role son!!! :snooty:

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^ Yeah yeah.