Ume I would say that its better for them to make the effort and at least come to the masajid then not coming at all...You never know what is in their mind and maybe one day they absorb the meaning..on the other hand if their actions are too exuberent as to disturb the sanctity of the masajid ,then I would take some action...rest Allah mian is the Judge:)
UZ all I am saying is instead of judging them try to reach and get through to them, u will get a lot of sawab and they will get guidance. I know I made some positive changes in my life because of one of my freinds who did not judge but reasoned with me.
Both of you are rightI have tried but not much but now I am praying for them.Inshallah they will come back to right path soon ameen
they are they are atleast there, interaction with others could be helpful
For that we can pray for them
lastly if you have such a big issue, get them booted out. masjid must have some policies that can be enforced for dress code
Tried it but everything goes for voting and their are some good muslims who are forcing them but still some Arab muslims are denying that.So we can only hope for best.
praying is good but why not interact?
I am not going to go into my lifestyle in college but lets just say I did not think I would have a guy who lived in a masjid as one of my closest friends during grad school. That guy and I had a few things in common, interests in sports and food :D and he used that basis to really get through to me.
I am so happy that he did not see me as a lost cause and just prayed for me from a distance, but reached out to me.
sorry i dont mean to give u a lecture, but I know reaching out to people who have strayed or have made wrong choices works.. i know it well.
No one can be compared to pious people Hazrat Aisha or Hazrat Fatima (R.A). Allah makes it very clear in Surah Ahzab (while address mother of believers - i.e. Prophet's wives) that they are not like any other woman (they have greater imaan and cannot be compared to woman of today). No matter how pious a woman you see today, she cannot even come close to Hazrat Aisha or Hazrat Fatima. But like I said, even if I know a person well enough and know that he/she listens to music everyday, I still cannot tell what he/she is listening to unless I myself borrow the ipod from him/her and listen to it at that point
I am not pious lady but still I am saying that listening to music is not good and it is haraam.I myself sometimes listen music but still if it is wrong than it is wrong.That doesn't mean if I or you listen music then it will be halaal.What is wrong is wrong.Anyway the point was listening Ipod if you are listening songs is not right in masjid.
For that I have to make a plan and form strategies to get the interests match and then I will play ball.Its a year job ,in the mean time I will praying for them so they can come back .
Both of you are rightI have tried but not much but now I am praying for them.Inshallah they will come back to right path soon ameen
Thats good that you are praying for them after trying to reach out...maybe you can also recommend someone close to their age that can be at their age/mind level and be better equipped in trying to communicate to them.
praying is good but why not interact?
I am not going to go into my lifestyle in college but lets just say I did not think I would have a guy who lived in a masjid as one of my closest friends during grad school. That guy and I had a few things in common, interests in sports and food :D and he used that basis to really get through to me.
I am so happy that he did not see me as a lost cause and just prayed for me from a distance, but reached out to me.
sorry i dont mean to give u a lecture, but I know reaching out to people who have strayed or have made wrong choices works.. i know it well.
thats such a positive message Mr Frauds...and so true too...its a blessing that Allah Mian open minds of the strayed..
UZ I was like a very conservative person but as I have opened up my mind...its just so much more positive things I see as a whole...and there is so much potential I see in people...:) .Everyone has what I say"their truth " by which they live by and you never know until you communicate with them and trying to empathize with them>We as humans try to judge others with our values and experiences which for me have proven to be not the right way...just my two cents:) ..
Thanks for nice advice Ask99 I am not myself very pious woman who can present examples for others but I will definately recommend someone very pious lady who can understand them and guide them to right path.Since they are friends I always have a postive in mind about them.
Nothing out of the ordinary. The usualy power struggles when election times comes around to vote in officers/council folks. At another masjid where I used to live we had this issue about the Imam being found at a bar playing pool.
Then there was the issue - I was a kid at the time - where the mosque banned women from attending, because the Imam was tired of cleaning up blood-tinged pads from the women's bathroom. Or that was the rumor at least. After a whole lot of arguing, they finally made a section for the ladies. Retarded, to say the least.
Again Nazuk jan where:faizy:…and I dint keep the roza……Inshallah will compensate after Ramazan…I feel so guilty …I wanted to keep all of the rozas this ramazan:crying:…
now off to park with my baby…she is learning to bike with the wheels…so we r up for a lot of boo boos today..:DAllah Hafiz:)
I am not myself very pious woman who can present examples for others but I will definately recommend someone very pious lady who can understand them and guide them to right path.Since they are friends I always have a postive in mind about them.
to bardaasht ker leti but I have sympathies for you.
…Inshallah will compensate after Ramazan…I feel so guilty …I wanted to keep all of the rozas this ramazan:crying:…