This is the first time that I actually engaged in the Pakistani elections frenzy. It has been a bittersweet experience. I have to say there was a fair bit of cynicism and gloominess after the elections.
How about you guys? How are you feeling? What would you say to people who are still moping over the loss? Should they continue protesting or is it time to move on? What are some of the positive outcomes of these elections that everyone could focus on in order to overcome the negative emotions?
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I advocated Sharia Law for the pakistani populace. It has been proven time and time again and yet time again that Pakistani people cannot be trusted with elections or anything moral. Therefore a strict religious authroity needs to exercise stringent control over these corrupt individuals if we want to get things done the right way.
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I miss Imran Khan. I miss his Jalsas. I miss how he’d wave his bat and call out Nawaz Sharif: “O MIAN SAAB!” - Fun days, those were.
I have never experienced such junoon and jazba ever in my life before which I experienced for 1 month which started from 23rd March 2013
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nothing but the truth.
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There was definitely a lot more energy, and momentum in these elections. Possibly the most vibrant election season I’ve witnessed. People should be optimistic, and hope for even more of a turn out next time around. The poison of the Power Cycles has spread and paralyzed the nation outwardly and inwardly. The reversal process will take a while.
What took 40+ years of misgovernance cannot be undone within weeks of campaigning. At the very least, we should be looking at a good decade of steady process to put the nation back on track. Start micro, and expand on its’ success. inshaAllah the future of Pakistan is better than its’ past so long as the public shows sincerity in changing themselves for their nation, and vow to change the nation for their coming generations.
The country just does not have capacity to tolerate any more of the Same Old Same Old. Time, Patience, and Sincerity are the components that I feel are needed to brew up a remedy to undo the damage, by peaceful means. Rapid Action comes with a lot of pain that may not be ideal for a nation that’s full of opportunists who would claim their stake and play ethnic card if any blood is spilled to bring out a change.
The positive: People have shown themselves to be accountable, and have shown that they will come out to vote if they truly believe their future is at risk.
The negative: Some of the Old Guard could not digest the overwhelming change coming their way, so they employed known tricks to have their turn.
The Focus: Bank on the outcome, and drill it in people to vote on performance and distance themselves from all affiliations for the sake of their childrens’ future.
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I never expected any positive outcome from these elections so there is no disappointment for me. I never believed in Imran Khan’s promise of change. How can one person turn around the whole nation full of bigoted and dishonest people?
To those who are crying over the loss I would say if they really want change, they have to change themselves and not the government.
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Wouldn’t a strict authority suffice? Why would it have to be religious? They figured out a way to tackle corruption in the western world without shariah law. I’m sure we can do the same.
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Southie will be so proud to see this.
Totally agree, btw.
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It always starts with one and then spreads…
Not everyone is bigoted and dishonest…or they wouldn’t demanding for change.
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You think there isn’t corruption in the western world? Huma corruption is overshadowed by development and high rise buildings. Its just the fact that in the west people have been given basic laws. They are told that they can do certain things and thus they feel that they have the illusion of freedom. There is no freedom in the western world only disguised laws which give off the illusion of freedom or fair.
You have to study western history with an eye of a cynic. People have perpetrated this myth that the West has got it all. But in truth it is the most debauched, satanic and ethic less place in the entire universe. At least in Pakistan we still hold on to our morals. If you don’t believe me and think that everyone have rights in the west. Then sure believe that myth but they don’t actually, they just have an illusion which they maintain and we think that its heaven.
For the west the democratic system is a sham as well, they have created it and maintained it throughout the years. They practice strict control on it. No man black or white can enter this system unless he/she plays by the rules of the elite. We all know what happened to Kennedy. Now you’ll come at me with Obama, well he’s also a pawn in the system. He was prepared all this life for the puppet job that he holds now. Read some of the biographies of his written by people who knew him since an early age.
Therefore a strict and yes a strict religious moral authority is needed. Because there isn’t anything more moral than the Quran? If you disagree then you haven’t read it yet. Sharia law would fix all our corruption and our mess in 1 month. If you’ll cut the arm of the man who steals or rapes a woman. No man would dare touch another woman without her consent.
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The current crop of populace are neither ready, nor deserving of the Madinah Charter. Surely a time will come where Khilafat-e-Rashida would be restored (inshaAllah), but the current mindset of people is such that if Haramain was in Pakistan, it would be looted or used to commercialize the pilgrimage so that the “Amir” can fill his pockets. Astagfirullah.
Until such time that people themselves ask for the righteous system of governance, the best hope for the current nation is that of conventional means that they’re fimiliar with.
It may be a little while before Pakistani nation is ready for that.
I cannot think of any one person in the current scheme of things, who would employ the punishments you’ve mentioned on their own family members if they were found guilty. We’re talking about a people that would trade Dignity for Dollars and Foreign Settlement (Raymond Davis).
Allah knows best.
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I’m sure there is but nowhere near as widespread as it is in the developing countries.
This is all greek to me. 
Whether or not I believe in the Quran has nothing to do with my opinion that shariah law was most suited in the olden days, not any more. We don’t need eye witnesses to convict rapists these days when we have DNA technology and hundreds of other scientific tools at our disposal.
So coming back to the topic of elections, although I wouldn’t have voted for PMLN, I do applaud Shahbaz Sharif for creating the Punjab forensic Science Agency. There’s no mention of forensic science in the Quran but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t the best tool today to increase the conviction rates. And that’s really what you want - to increase conviction rates, to make criminals pay, to deter the public from crime/corruption/bribery etc and you can certainly do that through strict law enforcement. I remember in 2011 they introduced tougher sentences (min 14 years jail + Rs 1 million fine) in Pakistan for those found guilty of acid attacks and apparently the conviction rate has tripled since the amendment. So if only our “pulas” got their act together, things would be so much better. If the police are corrupt, the government is incompetent and perhaps the public is to blame too for not doing anything about it.
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Quran doesn’t mention anything about a car or motorcycle or a television doesn’t mean those things don’t exist. Quran asks mankind to strive for knowledge and knowledge is what sets man apart from the animals. Rape cases in Pakistan have increased since the past 10 years. You don’t think there is forensic or DNA technology in Pakistan? And if there were don’t you think that could be tinkered? If you have money then you have power to alter any DNA or any Party election results. The proof is in front of you with the elections. We cannot rely on science alone to fix our problems we need a religious/moral authority to oversee our progress. Who’s to say if you’re right or if I am wrong? Only God should be able to decided whats right or wrong. According to some abortion is wrong. While some do it like its a walk on the beach. Then you’ll say “People will decided…” well people are the most susceptible to coercion than monkeys being bribed by bananas.
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if this is indeed what you believe, why would you willingly stay in the satanic west? it cant be all that hard for an educated person like you to make a living in Pakistan?
also how would the leader/leadership of a country be selected under shariah if not by democracy?
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^ Clearly God will whisper in the chosen one’s ear. There is a slight problem, sometimes, when God whispers in multiple people’s ears, in which case we have to discern which whisper was real, and which ones were just wind in the ear or schizophrenia. But this is a minor concern, I’m sure McPendo has put a lot of thought into this.
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But what do abortion laws etc have to do with economic and social progress of a country? I’m not asking for the “westernization” of Pakistan but I don’t want to see someone like Maulana whatshisface ruling the country with his own made up fatwas either.
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I wrote an insightful reply and then somehow hit the ‘back’ key. And lost it all. :@ :@
Summary:-
Elections relatively successfull.
PTI, Opportunity to govern KP as it should be.
PTI, 3rd largest party from nothing.
PML-N- I do however support their economic policy. Privartisation, Inward FDI orientated policies. etc..
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See your problem is you’ve been brain washed by the so called “Liberal” media to think that anything that has to do with religion or the Quran is going to be strict and hardcore and that Religion/Quran = fascist regimes and that liberalization and free thinking is the way to go. Well Quran or Religion does not stop free thinking it promotes it. Our Quran goes as far as to question everything and seek the truth. But then again your response regarding a “Maulana or fatwas” suggests that you equate religion to negativity. Well no maulana has to rule Pakistan. Why can’t young Muslims take up the best form of government they have in their holy book and run their lives according the Quran/Prophet. No one has to grow their beard or pull their jeans up to their ankles. You shouldn’t equate Quran with intolerance.
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I don’t equate religion with intolerance and fascism otherwise I wouldn’t be a practising Muslim. But when you spoke of a religious authority governing the country, I couldn’t help but think of religious political parties like JUI-f and JI which got only 2.09 and 1.1 percent votes respectively in these elections. So you tell me why the Pakistani public is reluctant to vote for these Islamists? The country has been torn apart by the radical elements so you can’t blame me or the Pakistani people for fearing that voting for the religious parties will only fuel religious extremism and sectarian violence. Implementation of the shariah law will only empower the radical elements in the society and that’s the last thing we need right now in Pakistan. I guess teggy hit the nail on the head when he said that the society at present is just not capable/knowledgeable enough to implement and follow the Islamic law properly. We know it would create a just society if we were to follow Islam in its entirety but we’re simply not sane enough to do so these days. To ask the youth to implement the Islamic form of governance as detailed in the Quran would be like asking a 5 year old to bake cookies as detailed in the recipe book. We just don’t understand, we’re too immature and too poorly educated.
Anyway, I don’t know why we’re debating something that is not about to happen any time soon. Clearly, the people of Pakistan have rejected the idea of a religious leadership in the elections. There is a very good paper on this and it concludes as follows:
That sums up what I’m trying to say.
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2nd largest 
Going by the percentage of votes.