I was listening to an Indian song on the internet and Hero/Heroine were singing about their wish of having ‘Chota sa ghar ho apna’, and I was thinking that if they are wishing, why is that they are not washing for a palace. I mean a wish is not costing you anything, so at least wish for something better.
This mindset is unfortunately very common in our culture, in our poetry, in our movies. We find pride in poverty. We associate having a humble life style with being virtuous. In fact I was watching Khabar Naak this morning and they were talking about Poets thinking that working to earn money is below dignity.
Why do we have such a poor mindset? Why do we think that being rich means being evil?
^ because with all honesty, living a humble lifestyle (by choice) adds a zero value to society. It's the life of abundance that contributes to the society. You try to live a humble lifestyle and do all your house work yourself even if you can afford to hire help may sound very noble, but when you hire a help, you are providing support to another family, which is even a higher noble act. To me, living a humble lifestyle by choice, or wishing for one is pretty selfish.
I don't see it as a poor mindset. A wish is a wish and not everyone wishes to be filthy rich. I think it's less related to associating rich to evil but more so rich not necessarily being associated with true happiness.
^ because with all honesty, living a humble lifestyle (by choice) adds a zero value to society. It's the life of abundance that contributes to the society. You try to live a humble lifestyle and do all your house work yourself even if you can afford to hire help may sound very noble, but when you hire a help, you are providing support to another family, which is even a higher noble act. To me, living a humble lifestyle by choice, or wishing for one is pretty selfish.
Islam encourages humble lifestyle. Prophet Muhammad PBUH led a very humble lifestyle, in fact he lived in abject poverty by today's standards. So are you saying that Prophet Muhammad's lifestyle didn't add anything to the society? His message promoting simplicity, humbleness and humility was perhaps "selfish"? If this is really the case then what shall we say about Quran which calls a poverty loving man best of creation?
The bold part simply sounds outdated and quite snobbish . These are the same attitude people used 70-80 years ago in West to keep their servants enslaved until the women's movement got a breakthrough, more jobs and opportunities were created, working women could find better jobs in industries, welfare state emerged to take care of the needs of working class children. Had the above attitude was not defeated, there would not have been any equality in my country.
....and what exactly is so wrong with doing your own housework?
It’s less money more problem. Pick any major city of the world and circle out the poorest areas of that city, and you have the areas of the highest crime of that city. Check out in you own city, ask your mayors office for the monthly crime report per neighbourhoods (usually a public information, available on request) and you will see what I am saying
That is the biggest misconception about Islam. Islam discourages arrogance, not rich lifestyle.
One of the ten sahabis who were given the news of paradise in their lives, was abdul rahman bin auf. He was a very rich person, and promised prophet (when prophet was on his death bed), that after you, I will reserve the earning of one of my garden of dates to take care of your family. Prophet became so happy that he gave Abdul Rahman, basharat of jannat.
There is another example when abu bakr said that he likes to wear expensive clothes and prophet told him to do so.
That is the biggest misconception about Islam. Islam discourages arrogance, not rich lifestyle.
One of the ten sahabis who were given the news of paradise in their lives, was abdul rahman bin auf. He was a very rich person, and promised prophet (when prophet was on his death bed), that after you, I will reserve the earning of one of my garden of dates to take care of your family. Prophet became so happy that he gave Abdul Rahman, basharat of jannat.
There is another example when abu bakr said that he likes to wear expensive clothes and prophet told him to do so.
There were sahabis who actually came from well off backgrounds, they were genuinely rich before converting to Islam and there were sahabis who got so much success from their business where they applied all the Islamic mannerism and rules of trading. That is totally different. Your posts are actually looking down at humble lifestyle, dismissing it and treating it with disdain while this was the lifestyle of Prophet Muahammad pbuh who is described as best of the creation. If you think leading the simple and humble lifestyle is selfish and useless then perhaps all Muslims should reject emulating the life of Muhammad pbuh?
Prophet had a major mission to accomplish, which was a bigger priority for him than doing a business. Of course when you have no source of income, your lifestyle would be humble. That does not mean that living a poor lifestyle should be taken as sunnat of prophet that we need to follow. Prophet Suleman and Prophet Yousuf were kings and very rich. If being poor was something noble then all the prophets would be picked from poor families.
Prophet had a major mission to accomplish, which was a bigger priority for him than doing a business. Of course when you have no source of income, your lifestyle would be humble. That does not mean that living a poor lifestyle should be taken as sunnat of prophet that we need to follow. Prophet Suleman and Prophet Yousuf were kings and very rich. If being poor was something noble then all the prophets would be picked from poor families.
Yet if being poor was such a bad thing and added no good to the society then God would not have chosen a poor man as a seal of Prophet-hood and best of creations. He would've been a King or a good businessman. Working hard and earning halal money earning is a good thing but striving for materialism is not, and this is how your posts come across. Muslims are told to follow the Quran and Sunnat of Prophet Muhammad pbuh not the Sunnat of Prophet Yousuf and Suleman (if there is such thing). Who decides which sunnat we should follow and which sunnat we reject, ridicule and demonise? The question is simple, if Prophet's, his family and majority of his companions way of living was selfish, useless and outdated then did the Quran elevate their status? Something definitely doesn't sound right...
I was listening to an Indian song on the internet and Hero/Heroine were singing about their wish of having 'Chota sa ghar ho apna', and I was thinking that if they are wishing, why is that they are not washing for a palace. I mean a wish is not costing you anything, so at least wish for something better.
This mindset is unfortunately very common in our culture, in our poetry, in our movies. We find pride in poverty. We associate having a humble life style with being virtuous. In fact I was watching Khabar Naak this morning and they were talking about Poets thinking that working to earn money is below dignity.
Why do we have such a poor mindset? Why do we think that being rich means being evil?
agar app is waqt to'ba take singh k kisi gaaon main hotay jahan net hota na bijlee to kam say kam yeh gaana sunnay ki gunaah say to bach jatay : P
I doubt that songwriters have much sunnat in mind when a nangi putangi heroine is prancing around, rolling around and dry humping some mustanda.
TLK its marketing pure and simple, the movies and songs are selling themselves to an audience that is mostly poor.
Secondly the idea is that ashiqi mashiqi is more important to living a fulfilled life than material possessions and those things mean less for happiness if you got your main squeeze with you.
As far as poets go, the issue is less of an unwillingness to earn but they are artists, it's a certain mindset, your art and your creation is yours and you will not sell out and write to meet popular demand necessarily. It's not an issue of earning.... You will find plenty of examples of poets getting royal allowances and for that they'd write poetry for the sponsoring royal as long as they were left alone when it came to their other writings.
PS: you unromantic oaf..
PS2: you uncultured oaf
PS3: ... Radio par Indian songs... Fob insaan
Lets do lyrical operation...and then video post-mortem...
chota sa ghar apna, chota sa ghar apna
apne jivan ka sapna
ye tut na jaye sajna, ye tut na jaye sajna
chota sa ghar apne jivan ka sapna
ye tut na jaye sajna, ye tut na jaye sajna
teri pyari pyari ankhiyo me khoke
khudko main dhundha karu
ha mann mandir me rakhke piya teri murat
din rain puja karu
barso ki puja se milta hai pyar itna
tu ruth na jaye sajna sajna, tu ruth na jaye sajna
babul ka ghar choda tujhse nata joda
pritam teri galiya sajaau
apne is aangan me palko se chun chun ke
aashao ki kaliya bichaau
dukh sukh ki raato me ye haath hai haatho me
sang chut na jaye sajna sajna, sang chut na jaye sajna
chota sa ghar apna apne jivan ka sapna
ye tut na jaye sajna sajna, ye tut na jaye sajna
PG, itne dino baad aamad dee asp ne aur poori thread main se yeah jumla milaa aap ko pakarne ke liye?
lolzzzz . yeh app ka hunnar hay jo mainy chore ker lia : P..
baake hamaray culture main koi bhi chota Gher nahi mangta .. app nay yeh afwaah kahan say sun lee?
even woh hero herion jin ka gaana sun ker app itna mutafakkir ho gayee unhoon nay or us song ko likhnay walay nahi bhi achay khaasay paisay kamaaye hon gay
ab woh zamana gaya jub log do waqt ki roti pait bher ker khaanay ko kaafe samjhtay thay... agar waaqye hamaray culture main loog aisee khuwahish rakhtay to pakistan ka yeh haal hota ? kaam per koi raazi hee nahi hai ..
bulkay agar app k mushahiday k mutaabiq koi waaqye ayse sooch ya khuwahish rakay to woh koi Walli ullah hee hoa na.... jo kaam mangay or us per raazi bhi ho
lakin agar kissi kay paas bohat assaish ho or saath main hazrat usmaan razi allah tala unhu jaisa imaan or sakhawat ho to us ka derja or muqaam zyada hee hai
Poetry should not be taken on the face of it. After all, we got this song as well:
Tum se mila tha pyar, kuch ache naseeb se
hum unn dinon ameer the jab tum qareeb the
Most of you have heard event of wrath of Amir Timur on Persian Poet Hafiz for writing lines where he vowed to sacrifice cities of Bukhara and Samarqand just for a mole on his lover’s face. Timur was angry as he had to do lot of efforts to conqueror these cities and a poet was daring to give these just for a mole.
I think being poor and choosing to live a humble lifestyle are 2 VERY different situations. I am not understanding who you are referring too.
Mo money, mo problems was in reference to people who have nothing else to do but become richer and richer, that doesn't make them any more happier than an average middle class working person. Money doesn't buy happiness is what I meant. Somebody living in poverty with very little opportunity and not having many of their basic needs fulfilled day to day would wish for very different things. Like better working opportunity for example. My city has a lot of crime and some of the children living in those bad neighborhoods do not even have a safe walking path to school. Wishing for a big house would be much down the list. Similar to someone living in slums. It depends on who exactly you are talking about but I do not see where we find pride in poverty. How so is that the case? I think people just want to be comfortable. Somebody like me and you have the choice to wish for bigger and better because our basic needs and then some are met. Some do not even have the luxury to ask for proper shoes so I think you have to distinguish between what class of people you are talking about.
I was listening to an Indian song on the internet and Hero/Heroine were singing about their wish of having 'Chota sa ghar ho apna', and I was thinking that if they are wishing, why is that they are not washing for a palace. I mean a wish is not costing you anything, so at least wish for something better.
This mindset is unfortunately very common in our culture, in our poetry, in our movies. We find pride in poverty. We associate having a humble life style with being virtuous. In fact I was watching Khabar Naak this morning and they were talking about Poets thinking that working to earn money is below dignity.
Why do we have such a poor mindset? Why do we think that being rich means being evil?
An otherwise thing is, the very same people would not even wish to live such life. They fantasize it only, don’t take it seriously.
I was listening to an Indian song on the internet and Hero/Heroine were singing about their wish of having 'Chota sa ghar ho apna', and I was thinking that if they are wishing, why is that they are not washing for a palace. I mean a wish is not costing you anything, so at least wish for something better.
This mindset is unfortunately very common in our culture, in our poetry, in our movies. We find pride in poverty. We associate having a humble life style with being virtuous. *In fact I was watching Khabar Naak this morning and they were talking about Poets thinking that working to earn money is below dignity. *
Why do we have such a poor mindset? Why do we think that being rich means being evil?
That is true for writing poetry, i believe. writing for earning money leads to creating contents like, fire birgade mangwa day tu angaroon par hain armaan.
Or noshi gilani was wrong where she said,
Kisi maa ki dua ki tarah hoti hai.
shaayri radd e bala hoti hai
Mohsin Naqvi.
Tumhari soch bhi aakhir behak gaee Mohsin
Tumhain to shehr main roshan dimagh hona tha.
