Poonch rebellion not tribal raid triggered the Kashmir conflict in 1947

‘Nehru Didn’t Want To Publicise The Poonch Rebellion Because It Would Have Strengthened Pakistan’s Case’
‘Nehru didn’t want to publicise the Poonch rebellion because it would have strengthened Pakistan’s case’ | Tehelka.com](http://www.tehelka.com/nehru-didnt-want-to-publicise-the-poonch-rebellion-because-it-would-have-strengthened-pakistans-case/)

**Your book challenges the very basis of New Delhi’s claim on Kashmir. India has always maintained that it was forced to send its army into J&K in 1947 because of the Pakhtoon raid. Your book claims state subjects triggered the conflict. How do we prove that?
**I have used many primary sources in my book. They are chiefly newspapers, especially The Civil and Military Gazette. All suggest there was an uprising in Poonch and religious violence in Jammu. There are also some documents that talk about the uprising against the Dogra ruler (Maharaja Hari Singh). Then there is the secret correspondence between Jawaharlal Nehru and Sardar Patel making it clear that they were aware of what was going on. The evidence was always there but I don’t know why these were not collected. India blamed Pakhtoon tribesmen for starting the conflict and Pakistan, I don’t know why, accepted this tactical claim.
**Your book title provokes one to ask what’s there that has not been written about Kashmir?
**This book contains new information about ‘Azad Kashmir’ (PoK). In short, it explains three actions that divided the entire state. **First, the Poonch uprising that started on 18 August 1947 against the Maharaja’s rule. It has been mentioned before, but my book offers a lot of detail. Second, there was a lot of inter-religious violence in the Jammu region, some of which seems to be endorsed by the Maharaja and his forces. **The third story is the actual creation of the provisional government of ‘Azad Jammu & Kashmir’ on 24 October 1947. There has really been no book dedicated to telling the story of ‘Azad Kashmir’ since 1947.
Weren’t those in New Delhi aware of the Poonch uprising?
There is evidence to prove that they were. In fact, we are now getting access to correspondence among the Indian ministers. Nehru did write to Patel about the Poonch rebellion. The book really challenges the Indian claim that all the violence started on 22 October 1947 after the Pakhtoon tribesmen raided Kashmir.

**And what about the people in Kashmir? Did Sheikh Abdullah know about this uprising? Then why didn’t he or Nehru disclose it? Did the media play any role in hiding the news?
**I think Abdullah knew. One can find it in some of his writings too. I think he would have told Nehru also because they were very close. But again, it was also about communication, getting that story out in the press when so much was happening. In fact, the former editor of The Statesman later said that “we really don’t want to report this because there was already enough violence going and it would have further vitiated things”. Nehru was probably a little bit more political. He didn’t want to let this out because it would have strengthened Pakistan’s case.
**What does the book say about the Poonchis? Were they armed? How did they manage to overpower the Maharaja’s forces?
**My research says in 1947 there were 50,000 Poonchis who had served in the British Army. Poonch was one of the major recruiting grounds for the British. These people would always think of themselves as fighters. There were no economic opportunities and inadequate landholdings in this area. So, most of them fought alongside the British, unlike Kashmiri Muslims, who had enough land to till and were involved in economic activities. Poonchis had military and combat skills. Although the Maharaja’s forces disarmed them, they went across the border to arms manufacturers in North-West Frontier Province and Dera Ismail Khan in Pakistan. They had a lot of local support; they managed to liberate their own area, defeated the Dogra army and even captured their arms.
**Was Pakistan involved in this uprising in any way? Was any State actorinvolved?
**I’m sure there was unofficial and family support. People in Poonch really relate much more to Punjab than they do with the Valley. Families across the other side of the Jhelum river would have supported them by offering food and shelter. But there was some degree of support from the Pakistan government, which I think was minimal, chiefly because the government was too busy trying to resolve other issues, perhaps to establish a capital in Karachi. Pakistan had very limited administration. It was mostly the local Poonchis who didn’t like the Maharaja and wanted J&K to join Pakistan.
**You also blame disunity among Muslims in J&K in deciding the international status of pre-accession J&K.
**That was a major factor. In 1947, there were about 77 percent Muslims. Had they been united, it would have been difficult for the Maharaja to accede the entire state to India.
**You have been to both sides of Kashmir? Which side looks more prosperous and developed?
**PoK is different in terms of terrain. It’s very mountainous. But in terms of living standards, houses, electricity, shops, roads, mosques and buildings, these are pretty much the same on either side. There is no stark difference, unlike say in East and West Germany. **But the people in PoK are very different in how they dress. They dress like Punjabis. The literacy rate is high, almost 90 percent. **However, people are very hospitable on both sides.
**Your book might give a jolt to pro-Azadi quarters in Kashmir. How does it conclude that independent Kashmir isn’t possible?
**I have written how history shows India and Pakistan haven’t been able to resolve this dispute. Pakistan is ready for a plebiscite, but India will never go for it. Both countries will never allow Kashmir to become independent. It’s a waste of time. So we need to find another mechanism that might be acceptable to both countries.
**Does your book offer some solution?
**India and Pakistan should devolve this issue to the people of Kashmir, including Hindu Pandits who left the Valley, people of Gilgit and Baltistan, and those who moved into these areas. There should be serious discussion among the people of all regions for as long as it takes to work out what they want in terms of status. They may have different aspirations. For example, Jammu and Ladakh may want to stay with India; PoK will choose to stay with Pakistan and the Valley may say it wants to remain independent. You might have three different statuses together. I’m not saying people shouldn’t be independent. But they need to understand the ramifications of being independent. Being an independent, landlocked State anywhere in the world is difficult. Ultimately, the solution has to come from the people. My book offers hope that one day India and Pakistan will quit their intractable row and allow the people to resolve this dispute.
**How long did the research and writing this book take? And what’s your new project about?
**I started researching for it in 1996 and the writing part started in 2001. My wife Diane Barbeler is the first editor of my work. My next project is also about Kashmir, which will be called Understanding Kashmir and Kashmiris. This one is particularly about theKashmir Valley.

This article is was published in the ‘tehelka’( a well known Indian newspaper) a year ago, I still believe it was worth sharing because the interviewee(Christopher Snedden) dispelled a lot of myths many Indian nationalists believe.

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wow no comment?this is more important than Hamida Meer and Jew News

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@the kaur and @muqawwee should read this

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And there were rallies in Srinagar on the day when Maharaja announced the joining of India
Mashal bardar Jaloos
"Dushman ho jao hoshiar , National Conference hay tiar"
The most foolish act was to send tribal to Kashmeer .
Maharaja got an excuse otherwise he could not join the India looking at his Muslim majority .

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No, i think it was a good move to use force to liberate Kashmir from the tyrannical maharaja; the Indians had used force to annex Hyderabad Deccan, killing over 20,000 people in the operation, they also used force to annex Goa and Sikkim, so Pakistan shouldn't be blamed for doing the same,

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nehru was a punk....

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yeah and he also died of syphilis :omg:

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The Dogra Maharaja of Jammu was a very oppressive ruler, some sources say he murdered over 200,000 Kashmiri Muslims in Jammu during partition and before that he had killed many Kashmiri-Muslims too, in fact he had massacred dozens in 1931, and throughout the late 19th to early 20th century, the Dogras persecuted Kashmiri-Muslims(even though most were liberal and educated), they instituted high taxes against Kashmiri-Muslims and prohibited them from slaughtering cows and goats, all of this forced many Kashmiri-Muslims to flee the valley and settle in north Punjab, and that’s why north Punjab has a large and successful Kashmiri diaspora.

The Maharaja was also a despicable looking guy

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What is Jew News?

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Yahoodi khabarnama

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Is that a TV station, radio station, Newspaper?

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I didn’t get the joke.

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It's Geo News, owned by Jang Group which also publishes newspapers Daily Jang and The News International, and they also publish some magazines.

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Yes. I heard of GEO News. OP must have misspelled it. Hota hai.

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:hehe:

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And why I am not surprised by this article?. My nana used to talk about Kashmir a lot. Among many things he did say that, there was a local rebellion against Maharaja rule..and it is because of persecution of Muslims in that area. And pakhtoon tribesmen were requested help from Muslims living in IOK. In anyway, Indian politicans need to realize that you cannot force your will on people no matter how much you try or suppress them.

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Are you of Kashmiri origin?
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In anyway, Indian politicans need to realize that you cannot force your will on people no matter how much you try or suppress them.
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Yeah India is illegally occupying Kashmir and they should enforce the UN resolution that Nehru promised to abide by, but the truth is that Pakistan does not have a lot of credibilty right now to talk about Kashmir because we don't treat our Baloch people that well either, so we need to grant the some form of autonomy and improve their living standards before we can take on India.

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Jiski Lathi uski bhains, so whosover is stronger locally will prevail,for people like us, talks will continue :)

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I don't know what you mean by that; only the kashmiri people are going to prevail, India can f*** off.

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Or may be you don't want to understand :)