Raises some interesting questions.
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4) Don’t you guys feel that it is discriminatory?
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Ever evolving Hinduism, which has been on earth for the last 4000-4500 years is virtually undogmatic.
Even things that we would cringe upon today were once a commonly accpeted practice in Hinduism. Hinduism has been through the extremes if we take all its life into account,
[li]be it burning a woman or glorifying a woman, [/li][li]be it untouchability or giving them preference[/li][li]be it being tortured by minorities or torturing the minorities[/li]
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[li]from worshipping idols to understanding a philosophy[/li]
As humans have evolved throught history, the Hindu school of thought has evolved with the human race to be relevant for ever. In fact most older religions show the same trend at this time (including Islam). And, Hinduism can be used to extrapolate the future of many schools of thought and religions including Islam.
[li] Similarly, incidents of polyandry, polygamy, monogamy everything is found throuout Hindu mythology. Social ignorance, poverty and illiteracy has contributed to the survival of remote traces of polyandry and polygamy even to this day, while an average Hindu looks down on Polygamy or Polyandry at this time -(which may change, as Hinduism accepts the evolution of human thought)[/li]
Fortunately or unfortunately Hinduism doesn’t freeze itself into time by subscribing to a book or song or ritual. This helps to correct itself in the long time.
Abdali anymore questions, I will be happy to answer!
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Kumar boy like always you dodge the question and disappear when nailed.
I am not interested in hinduism this and hinduism that we all know what hinduism is.
Since I asked too many questions at the same time i must admit I was unfair. Let me make life easy for you! and start with one.
1) How can you tell who is the papa??
** Sorry for overestimating you IQ and giving you a perspective on Hinduism!
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To directly answer your question at the level you asked:
How can you tell who is the father?
It was impossible to find who is the papa. But it is becoming possible nowadays.
With high female infanticide does it helps?
It could’ve!
Is polyandry a way to get even with men ??
It could’ve!! But there were sages about 4500 years ago who professed monogamy as well.
Don’t you guys feel that it is discriminatory?
No, it is NOT, as a few men were also polygamous!
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Wow!! look who is talking ..my my took few posts to comprehend what is being asked, must be lot of IQ at work here.
Now please tell us those children who don’t know who their papa is what are they called.
Come on yaar Abdali, don't embarass the poor guy. Just because these guys have their head in the gutter, we should not stoop their levels. The best course of action is to ignore the infamous threads launched by curious Brahmins and highly intelligent Kumars.
(I request no bitch-back Kumar, please! I'm trying to help you here, aka trying to be your saviour as you mentioned in another forum.)
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Originally posted by sambrialian:
**Come on yaar Abdali, don't embarass the poor guy. Just because these guys have their head in the gutter, we should not stoop their levels. The best course of action is to ignore the infamous threads launched by curious Brahmins and highly intelligent Kumars.
(I request no bitch-back Kumar, please! I'm trying to help you here, aka trying to be your saviour as you mentioned in another forum.)**
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sambrialian
Advice taken, thanks...
P.S: There is a lot more on hinduism but I'd rather not.
Sambrialian and Abdali:
“With tons of love let me say this to you!”
[li] No one needs to be ashamed of the past or the present. What we did in the past may seem wrong today and may seem to be right again sometime in the future. Also what we do now may seem to be wrong in the future and vice versa.[/li]
[li] If we feel that we have made mistakes, we should learn from them and correct ourselves (as Hinduism does) instead of being ashamed of them. (for example, 1900s began with privatization which changed to nationalization and now the theme is again privatization.)[/li]
If wanna believe that I am embarrassed, and if it will make you happy, go ahead, have a party.
** *** Hinduism has been an evolving butterfly for ever and I only awe at its metamorphosis, rather than feeling sorry for being a caterpillar in the past *** **
[li] It makes me feel secure and look ahead with enormous confidence! I don’t feel insecure not to answer his question or call for fatwas[/li]
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against the questioner or beg the moderator to close this thread.
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(In fact even Islam has shown this trend. It is no more attractive to chop off somebody’s head or throwing stones on somebopdy in public. No civilized Muslim nation chops of the hands of somebody who has stolen something.)
[li] In essence, Human race evolves. If we should be ashamed of the past, then we should be ashamed for being a neanderathal in the past![/li]
[li] Let me conclude by repeating one more thing. If you guys still want to be deluded that I am embarrased at anything, and if that makes you all happy and forget your insecurities, go ahead, celebrate, have a party! [/li]
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ok, I'm having a party in my cubicle. Wanna join?
I don't get this. If a man can have more than one Woman, why not the other way round?
Infact strictly as a matter of giving Physical satisfaction, Polyandry works better than Polygamy.
Good point Andhra. In your case it would probably make sense to move over and let somebody else do the job properly.
Xtreme Bhai Asslam Alaikum
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Leaving my sexual prowess aside, it is a well known fact that Women’s ‘Satisfaction’ is relatively rare. Men’s ends with ejaculation as you probably know from your lonely experiments behind the shower curtain!!
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Hence all the big deal about ‘Orgasm’ and the ‘Fake’ Orgasm which Seinfeld classified as Sexual Perjury!!!
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**I don't get this. If a man can have more than one Woman, why not the other way round?
Infact strictly as a matter of giving Physical satisfaction, Polyandry works better than Polygamy.
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so basically wat u mean to say is that someone comes to visit u and says that ur lil boy resembles anand ,and anand winks at ur wife after hearing that u r ok with it.coooooooooooooool.we muslims r not.evry one to his own i guess
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** *** Hinduism has been an evolving butterfly for ever and I only awe at its metamorphosis, rather than feeling sorry for being a caterpillar in the past *** **
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so it means there have been no principles ,there r no principles,there will be no principles.u ppl do wat u want.why say u have a religion then.actually u dont.and since u dont u r jealos of the fastest growing religion.wow it makes sense now.
so basically wat u mean to say is that someone comes to visit u and says that ur lil boy resembles anand ,and anand winks at ur wife after hearing that u r ok with it.coooooooooooooool.we muslims r not.evry one to his own i guess <<
Not at all!!! I am not saying Hindus practice Polyandry as a custom.
What I am saying is Polyandry is as valid as polygamy.
As for visiting houses and stuff, look at Muslim history and find that your Prophet Mohammed married his adopted son's wife after 'Visiting' his house.
Being his devout follower no doubt you will get such thoughts but rest assured Hindus won't!!!
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simple yaar.evryone to his own.so why the fault finding.**
end statement is hinduism is what you want to make of it. Its the closest thing to anarchy, and hence can never be implemented because of lack of patterns and structure. Unless ofcourse we start appreciating the the effort put in radhakrishnan, swami prabhupadha and others who tried to give it shape following the foot steps abrahmic religions.
but how come india with so many languages and religen able to be one country?
arab world with one language and religen
why so many countries? may be we parctise
what you preach?
and pakistan with adavtage of islam should
be a paradise ? do the people around the world know the difference between pakistan and india?
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**but how come india with so many languages and religen able to be one country?
arab world with one language and religen
why so many countries? may be we parctise
what you preach?
and pakistan with adavtage of islam should
be a paradise ? do the people around the world know the difference between pakistan and india?
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Dear rvikz: India with so many languages became one country beacause the political unity it received under the Islamic and Britsh rule. Hence when Brits were leaving they asked whom are u gonna go with? Creating many states would also have been an option. But Hindu nationalist leaders didnt want it. Precisely at that time there was movement among the indians to define just what the hell is hindu and hinduism and many writers thinkers wrote pamphlets at that time. Gandhi himself is credited for labelling everything as part of hinduism including sikhism which according to him was an offshoot of hinduism. And arab world covers a much bigger area than India, so there is no comparison. The question why is it broken up? The asnwer is because it came under the colonial powers, who when vacating those territories gave the power back to the locales of the respective region. There was no caliphacy which could be considered as some sort of centrality and hence you have so many arab states. Even what you know today as syria, jordan, palestine and jordan was one state referred to historically as " Bilaad al Shaam"
And just because we are muslims doesnt mean that automatically everything would become heaven. Look at this forum....people are so politically intelligent that they would support a aslickdicklicktator who admires his holer ataturk. So, effort always has to be put in for good results.