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See the problem with PPP supporters is that if someone criticises them they feel they are being victimised.

Why is it that they are being criticised more than others? Because they are the ones who CONSTANTLY "CAMPAIGN" against dictators. The Bhuttos constantly babbled about Zia ul Haq although ZAB was just as bad in every sense of the word.

It has gone from founder to daughter to widowed husband to son. *The biggest joke is that Bilawal has had to even change his surname. He can only be accepted with the Bhutto in it. *

How does anyoine justify it?

Zardari hijacked the media and the party by using sympathy. No one was going to dispute him taking over.

The PPP gets its votes from some of the most feudal areas of Pakistan ie Sindh, Southern Punjab and Balochistan. **These people expect the party to be passed on along the bloodline. **They wont accept outsiders.

The PML-N has become a bit of a family affair however, Hamza does no have the gauranteed feudal vote base that Bilawal has.

The only other party which has become a family party is the ANP. the leadership has been passed along the male bloodline.

I disagree. The PPP constantly use the provincial or shall I say Punjab card to get votes. They may have valid points in some of their arguments but they stoke fear.

The PPP did better in 2008 because of Benazirs' death. Had nt she died she would not have got sympathy votes in especially Punjab and KP.

Yes PPP rule the country their way and thats why the country is always in a big mess after their misrule.

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Politics of victimization works in Pakistan, so that the Politics over dead bodies. Its a sad state of affairs, but he bright spot is that now people, due to somewhat freedom of media and experience are more inclining towards issues rather family line and other fake reasons for vote.

The coming elections will re-write how all political parties run for election and rule.

I agree that country is in a real mess during their rule mostly this one.

I do not see them playing the province or race card all of the time. If they play Punjab card they also play the Sind card, but not all of the time. I have to see them running the elections on the basis that certain community or ethnicity is being neglected.

Majority of people in all of the provinces vote for them and I will stand by my opinion that until we have a national party that can comfortably run for elections from all of the Provinces, PPP will be the major party to win most seats or make impact if not win the elections.

now u have 5 votes:D:

anyway welcome back Posh

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Even though I am not a supporter of Jamat Islami, it is the only party in Pakistan which is democratic in electing its leader. the rest all talk about democracy and are totally undemocratic when it comes to their own party, be it PPP, PML(N), PMLQ, Tehreek Insaaf, MQM etc. A real shame especailly when you look at people like Imran who talk a lot about democracy but has no democracy within his own party. I talk about Imran because he is the most educated out of this lot but is equally autocratic when it comes to "owning" his own party.

Surprised. Can you tell us the qualification of IK
Only qualified person of Pakistan in politics is Bilawal.

Being democratic in the sense of electing a party leader would mean every party member voting to elect the leader.
My idea is that Jamat's system is instead based on selection from chosen few top members only. I guess it is called shura?! If this is true then Jamat would not be a democratic party. It would instead be an ARISTOCRATIC party.

Wiki says: "Aristocracy is a form of government in which a few of the most prominent citizens rule."

Someone correct me about Jamat system if I am wrong.

Really? Whats are his qualifications beside the fact that he came out BBs uterus?

That is a qualification too.
But he is now a graduate from Oxford.
Not like Parchi BAs of Lahore.

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lol and :smack:

:slight_smile:

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The problem is on both sides.

People like to see one man who they 'worship' as the leader and parties have no real democracy internally.

Works great for outsiders to control the country's politics by controlling the leader.

Part 1-

assertion.

inquiry..and comment..

...admission

Part 2-

so..if bilawal's qualification is due to the fact he is an oxford graduate. so is Imran, thus they are equally qualified.
there are plenty of other Oxford grads too, that means they are equally qualified.

right?

Right and true is this that we don't have quality leadership.
Who is responsible?
The people who are in power since 1958 or before
Because they are only intermediate
So they don't like educated people
Even they kill only more qualified.
Others ,they treat well.

Care to show a statement from PLMN or PMLQ leadership about this 'well known' fact?

Benazir's so called "will" had nothing to do with Zardari or chunnu being made leader of party?

Of course it did.

Her will stated her what her wishes were. The CEC then voted on this matter. If they did not vote accordingly, it would have never happened.

Zardari, and Bilawal were made Chairman, and Co-Chairman only because the vast majority of PPP leaders and members wanted it.

If you don't like how the PPP selects its leaders, you have every right not to vote for it, that is what democracy is about.

:rotfl: Is he a politician? or son of a king?

This has been stated by Nawaz Sharif/Shabaz, and Chaudry Shujaat several times.

If you would like to spend your time Googling it, feel free, I have better things to do.

Either way, it doesn't matter, you are either very naive, or disingenuous.

If what you are saying is true, then sorry to say, PPP is the MOST incompetent party who can chose Zardari/Bilawal over leaders like Amin Fahim, Aitzaz etc. or may be Amin Fahim and Aitzaz are ball-less too.