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zia ke mukhalifeen ne konse teer chala liye the. khoon choosna hai sab ne Karachi walon ka aur bus
Did I mentioned anything about karachi in my post?
Hosla rakho bhai Karachi ke halaat tb he theek hongay jab...................... Fill in the blank ;)
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Did I mentioned anything about karachi in my post?
Hosla rakho bhai Karachi ke halaat tb he theek hongay jab...................... Fill in the blank ;)
why are you being so apologetic? 30 saal purana murda ukhaRne se behtar ke aaj ke Ibn ul Waqt (opportunist) parties ko nazar main rakho
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why are you being so apologetic? 30 saal purana murda ukhaRne se behtar ke aaj ke Ibn ul Waqt (opportunist) parties ko nazar main rakho
Lol me and apologetic
Oppurtunist parties ko nazar mein rakhnay se behtar hai Altaf bhai ko nazar mein rakho and dont complain about Karachi in each thread please
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:mirch: so MQM is leading party in Cheechoo ki Maliya?
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I think its better to stop ruining this thread by useless argues
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UnheiN bhatta khila saktey ho, aur hamarey leeye mitthai bhi nahi? 
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I think its better to stop ruining this thread by useless argues
I agree.
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yehi best idea hey dosto…don’t ruin the thread…warna…
muqawwee123 aur waleedhbk naam hey na tumhaara? Samajh lo baori taiyaar hey tumhaari 
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^^Patwarion ko sharam ati hoti tau land record 5 saal pahly computerized na hoo jata.
Don't know if someone else has said that already but reason of pml approaching mqm is pretty obvious.
Six days ago, ppp invited mqm to form govt in sindh. If that happens then sindh is totally out of pml's hand. Inviting mqm to join them means having a strong opposition in sindh assembly, plus a good hold in urban areas of sindh. It's a win win for both pml and mqm
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Governor Sindh will form new record of longest tenure 
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I do not think that MQM would leave PPP to accommodate PMLN. I believe that MQM might join PMLN in federal government and would stay with PPP in Sindh government.
One might ask why PMLN wants to rope MQM in Islamabad, and why PPP would keep MQM as partner in Sindh. Reason is simple. MQM has around 85 percent of Karachi assembly representation (both in NA and PA) and over 70 percent of Karachi votes. MQM not only have massive support in Karachi, but they are most organised party with huge street power, and can shut down Karachi at any time.
PMLN in Islamabad would not like to see Karachi shut down at whim of party in opposition as that would not only affect their economic policies and revenue generation, but could end their government as Pakistan would become ungovernable. So, for sake of their own interest and stability of their government, they would like to keep MQM on their side, at least in Islamabad, regardless of MQM NA and Senate votes.
As for PPP, same is true about Sindh. If PPP would like to rule Sindh appropriately they have to keep MQM with them. Sindh is divided between MQM (Controlling urban areas of Sindh) and PPP (controlling rural areas of Sindh), so to govern Sindh and bring harmony amongst the people in Sindh, both parties have to sit together.
For MQM, they know that their best interest is to be part of both federal and provincial government, so that they can serve their constituencies best they could … and that is what I believe MQM would do.
[That is my opinion … and only time would tell what is going to happen on ground]
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Tumhey yaad ho ke na yaad ho…
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Ab MQM ki tarah Noorey bhi kaheiN ge ke ‘out of context’ clip hey ye
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There are a few but I doubt they’d visit this thread.
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I do not think that MQM would leave PPP to accommodate PMLN. I believe that MQM might join PMLN in federal government and would stay with PPP in Sindh government.
That makes sense for obvious reasons. ;)
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They are most organised party with huge street power, and can shut down Karachi at any time.
PMLN in Islamabad would not like to see Karachi shut down at whim of party in opposition as that would not only affect their economic policies and revenue generation, but could end their government as Pakistan would become ungovernable. So, for sake of their own interest and stability of their government, they would like to keep MQM on their side, at least in Islamabad, regardless of MQM NA and Senate votes.
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This is black mailing! When Nawaz Sharif requested to be given simple majority after the elections, the main reason was that they should have enough numbers to rule the country and not be black mailed like the previous PPP regime. Now they have the numbers and obviously did not need to go to MQM. The alliance of MQM with PMLN would benefit the former only as PMLN would ignore the activities of MQM. The problem of Karachi is that MQM is part of the problem (not solution).
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Poor PTI waley are the new Punjabis for MQM. All their hate and violence is now only reserved for PTI activists - from youth to elderly women, anyone who works for Pakistan is their target.
Let see if the shameless MQM supporters still have the nerve to call MQM an 'anti feudal' movement. I swear MQM would even hop into bed with Taliban if they strike a power sharing deal with them.
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Unfortunately, in Pakistan everyone thinks that they and their opinion is Pakistan, whereas rest who have different opinion to them is neither Pakistan nor their opinion matters. Anyhow, in democracy this is not the case as all who live in country have their own opinions and choices, and democracy has to respect that, else:
If democracy meant majority rules minority, and if such thinking prevails in people forming government, then there would be civil war all over the place where such democracy would exist.
Fortunately, democracy does not mean majority rules minority. Democracy only means majority lead minorities. When majority lead, they rule taking into account all within the country and their rule should represent interest of all within country (not according to what they think but according to what people … majority as well as minority … think).
When a minority party shows strength in their constituency and demand what they want on strength of their constituency, than that is not called blackmailing, but it is called demanding rights or position on strength of their constituency.
PMLN is majority party in Pakistan, but that does not mean they represent all of Pakistan, rather they represent a part of Pakistan who voted them (mostly Punjab). PMLN being in majority also does not mean other parties who also got votes and seats at various places do not represent anything, rather they represent their constituencies just like PMLN represents PMLN constituencies. For PMLN to rule Pakistan, they have to lead people of Pakistan on equal ground, satisfying all.
That makes sense for obvious reasons.
This is black mailing! When Nawaz Sharif requested to be given simple majority after the elections, the main reason was that they should have enough numbers to rule the country and not be black mailed like the previous PPP regime. Now they have the numbers and obviously did not need to go to MQM. The alliance of MQM with PMLN would benefit the former only as PMLN would ignore the activities of MQM. The problem of Karachi is that MQM is part of the problem (not solution).
Brother, your statement ‘The problem of Karachi is that MQM is part of problem (not solution)‘ is not only wrong but shows same thinking what I mentioned earlier (repeating again):
[Unfortunately, in Pakistan everyone thinks that they and their opinion is Pakistan, whereas rest who have different opinion to them is neither Pakistan nor their opinion means anything. Anyhow, in democracy this is not the case as all who live in country have opinions and choices, and democracy has to respect that, else:
If democracy meant majority rule minority, and if such thinking prevails in people forming government, then there would be civil war all over the place where such democracy would exist]
Just let me know who should be more concerned and have more right to think about problem in Karachi … Majority who live and vote in Karachi or minority who live and vote in Karachi or people who live and vote outside Karachi?
If people who live in Karachi think that MQM is problem for them then it is they who would decide to reject MQM in election and that also with majority of their votes, but if they do not think that MQM is problem for Karachi, then they have every right to choose MQM as party representing them. No one else can decide that. It is true that PTI and PPP also have support in Karachi … but there is no doubt that MQM has most support in Karachi (MQM have 17 out of 20 NA seats from Karachi) and also have ability to shut down Karachi at will.
When MQM got representation and strength in Karachi, then it is up to them to use their representation and strength in whatever way they would like to use. Be a pressure group or be a partner, depending on situation, circumstances and whatever they think would be most effective for them and their voters.
If MQM thinks that the best they can do for their voters is to be in government (or not to be in government) then they would be doing what they would think best, because it would be they who would go to their constituency and tell their problems regarding their deliverance or problem in their deliverance … and yea:
People of Karachi are not bonded farm labourers, illiterates, or tied with caste, sect, tribe, or braderism that they vote like Zombies and could not judge what is good or bad for them. If anyone thinks that people in Karachi vote MQM due to threat then they are living in fools’ paradise, because Karachi has seen lot of threats, even military operation of worse kind by so-called civilian government to subjugate them (in 90s), and also voted under military dictator threats still did not budged (even threat of Ayub Khan could not stop them voting Fatima Jinah), so I can only laugh at the intellectual level of people making such statements.
Fact is that, if MQM was winning Karachi election by crook means, then we would have seen similar outburst in Karachi what we saw against Bhutto in 1977. Whatever people outside Karachi thinks, Karachi has given chance to all Pakistani political parties (PPP, PML, JI, JUP, etc) who took votes but done nothing, and today most in Karachi vote MQM and thinks that MQM (as party) has done most for them (and I think MQM did in deliverance much better than all political parties Karachi voted). So, keeping MQM outside and try to rule Karachi would be same as giving no say to Karachi, treat Karachi as colony, and still wanting Karachi to cooperate. Unfortunately, I do not think that it would happen (cooperation as colony) … and if it would not happen, then that is not blackmailing, but it would be justified protest (whatever anyone would think of it).
