'PML-N government will try Musharraf for treason'

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PML-N government will try Musharraf for treason: Report**

LAHORE: The incoming Pakistan Muslim League – Nawaz (PML-N) government will hold the trial of former president Pervez Musharraf over charges of treason, reported Press Trust of India on Tuesday.

The report quoted PML-N parliamentarian Tariq Azeem as saying that the party has decided to try Musharraf for treason in the Supreme Court.

“General Musharraf had violated the Constitution and he should face the music,” he was quoted as saying.

Azeem added that prime minister-elect Nawaz Sharif has made it clear that he has no personal issue with Musharraf but “he should be tried for breaking the law and violating the Constitution”.

The caretaker government had refused to hold Musharraf’s trial, saying that it wanted to focus on conducting free and fair elections.

Senior political analyst Raza Rumi had said that the greatest dilemma PML-N faces for its incoming government is whether to prosecute Musharraf.

“If PML-N goes ahead with Musharraf’s trial it runs the risk of enraging Pakistan’s powerful military establishment. If not, then it loses the moral high ground it has maintained for a decade,” he told The Express Tribune.

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It’s going to be an acid test for the credibility of the Noon League which had been openly asking for Musharraf’s trial under Article 6 of the constitution until Saudis entered the scene and asked Sharif to shup up. While media, PTI, lawyers and the civil society will pressurize Sharif for moving against the retired general, the newly-installed PM will have to accommodate wishes of the US and Riyadh before anything else.

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^^^ Sure bring it on. Its funny Tariq Azeem was part of Mush govt. then. I would like to see how Mush is indicted and proven guilty using article 6

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Are we talking about the same party whose Government allowed Raymond Davis to escape right after secret court hearing? Look for them to cite a technicality that legitimizes Musharraf's safe passage, maybe a slap on the wrist for being a bad boy and not playing by the set rules.

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wasn't raymond davis cleared after blood money was paid, as per the law of the land? why blame him. has there been any change in the law since, or even a desire on the part of pakistanis to change it?

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Waste of time... Nawaz is probably also guilty of violating the constitution if you dig deep enough.

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Yeah, its rather nonsensical. But then, there are a lot of things in Pakistan that dont make sense.

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They will let him go

NS doesnt have those balls to do anything against Musharraf !

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The point being, while there were secret negotiations going on with the family, the Law Minister at the time was parading himself around TV claiming he will never let him escape, and all sorts of things. The point I'm trying to highlight is, they should just be truthful. What they can't do; say so. What they can do; say so.

Which is why I feel that if the Govt. can't prosecute Musharraf, they will cite a technicality rather than just being honest with public and telling it like it is that he's untouchable because of x, y, z, etc. reasons.

Mr. Sharif didn't even admit to the agreement made between Musharraf and himself via Saudi Kingdom until much later. So what credibility would his chest thumping have now? For all we know, protection from prosecution for Musharraf may be a part and parcel of the that same agreement. (Just my guess based on the gentlemen's track record)

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That is why I am saying, I am very keenly waiting to see how they prove treason charges on Mush using article 6 of the constitution. They can only do that by distorting the article 6, if the article 6 is applied in its true actual form, a whole lot of big wigs of major political parties including many PML-N members would be found guilty as well in other cases, because many other cases would need to be opened up as well. Its like a chain reaction. So, it is like a no win situation for PML-N. They probably will be be digging their own grave considering the IQ level of Nawaz Sharif.

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they will file a case, they will start proceedings, then suddenly they will face some limitation of law, a constitutional glitch, or "mulk-o-qaom ka wasee-tar-mafad" and soon after mush will fly, up up and away, and then everyone will live happily ever after, at least for next 5-10 years

if they seriously try him for treason, mush's head will not be the only one rolling...

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Musharaf should alo try N$ in court.

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Nawaz & Co should try musharraf for treason so we can set a example of what consequences one have to face for violating the constitution. Specially for generals, but maybe its to much to ask from them now, specially when they don't wish to repeat pasts mistakes.

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See that is the problem, majority of us don't look at the strings that are attached to article 6. Its not the question of past mistakes or Nawaz trying Mush in court because trying him under article 6 would take everyone else down with Mush possibly including Tindoo Bros. and whole lot of other stalwarts. You're talking pretty much entire echelon of politicians and military persons. This will never happen, specially in country like Pakistan where courts are nothing but kangaroo courts.

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Not.Gonna.Happen.

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If the PCO Cheap Justice Iftikhar or Noonies try to drag Mushy into courts, he is going to bring down a lot of political titans with him. This much you can be sure of. Secondly, dont expect COAS and army to sit down and watch this circus show.

Perhaps some have forgotten the tacit warning that Gen Kiyani gave on the Martyr's Day speech this month:

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“Our salvation resides in transforming the government into a true platform of public representation. This would come to pass once the construct of public representation in Pakistan is oriented towards affording primacy and precedence to larger public interest over personal interests.

“Otherwise, may it be democracy or dictatorship, governance would continue to remain a means of self agg*****zement and that of plundering national wealth and resources.”

It is not merely retribution, but awareness and participation of the masses that can truly end this game of hide and seek between democracy and dictatorship.”
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Read between the lines, he is talking bout Musharraf here.

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I see your point, the question of treason should not be even debated because of how clear it is that musharraf has violated art. 6. The whole debate reflects the hypocrasy of these politicans.

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Although I personally think if by miracle it does happen meaning application of article 6 in its true sense than I would fully support it. At least we would be able get rid of very significant numbers of these dirt bags from the political landscape of Pakistani politics and the country would be cleansed once and for all. But, again this is too much to ask given how things work in Pakistan.

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Actually generals would not stop trial of President Musharraf under article 6, rather army would only demand that trial should not be selective but should be across the board and should include all who violated constitution in any way and are still alive … else, if article 6 is used selectively on President Musharraf only then it would be victimising army and not punishment of violating constitution, and in that case, army would have every right to victimise those victimising them with bullets (contrary to past when army did not used bullets).

Now think: Politicians, bureaucrats, judges, police, etc … all regularly violate constitution each of them almost every day (not once or twice). For instance:

Misusing power is violation of constitution

Taking bribe is violation of constitution

Taking commission is violation of constitution

Making or interpreting laws to benefit oneself, benefit a favoured party or favoured group is violation of constitution.

To victimising anyone (be they from general public or opponents) is violation of constitution.

Sacking a government servant without show-cause notice or valid reasons is also violation of constitution (What Nawaz did to Musharraf and has done same to many others … and Shahbaz is famous of this violation)

Well, one can present many occasions and reasons where politicians, bureaucrats, judges, police regularly violate constitution in Pakistan … and in the list of these violators we have Ganja Brothers, corrupt judge Iftikhar, most Pakistani politicians, bureaucrats, judges, police and many more.

So, if article 6 is applied than it would be nice to apply article 6 (high treason) on all who violated constitution in any way. Problem is that, people who could apply article 6 on any one are themselves guilty of article 6. Difference is that, some have right to apply article 6, some have right to punish people guilty of article 6, and some have guns.

I think if any politician, judge, their chaly chamchay, or anyone from anti-Musharraf lobby is thinking that army would allow selective justice, where one (Musharraf) get victimised by those who are themselves guilty of same crime, then they are living in paradise of fools, as once gone on this path, mentally retard bunch must get prepared themselves to face the music (music of article 6 or music of bullets and new harsher military rule). Another problem is that, this time military rule could be harsher as it might not come with general commanding the action, but it is possible that younger army officers would be commanding the action full of venom and revenge in their mind.

Note: There is no such thing as democratically elected person in power, as power always comes from barrel of gun, moral high ground or gift from those who have guns. Once an elected person does corruption, nepotism, misconduct, misuse of power, victimisation, or show selfish behaviours, than that person loses right to hold public office or rule the country … and it is right of those who have enough power (Like army) to kick such person out of public office without feeling guilty or ashamed. For instance, I have no respect or sympathy for corrupts (people I believe without doubt that they are corrupts), and thus if I was an army general, I would surely going to not just kick but shoot corrupts in public office or corridor of power … and I think NS is lucky that Musharraf was not someone like me.

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:omg:

I wish you were born a hundred years ago. You’d get a nice job as speech writer for Hitler.

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If Army chief is government servant, he should behave like one and do what the government tells him to do.