PML(N) did it again

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I have alway maintain that Punjab do not love Pakistan. And biggest enemy of Pakistan is Pakistan army. Nawaz shariff refuse to sign the 18th Amemdment after every thing was finalize. I hop people in this forum would understand what going on.

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I am sorry, I do not participate in ethnic debates nor am I punjabi, but I can list examples after examples where balochs, pathans, sindhis and mahajirs portrayed a non patriotic attitude. You say Punjab do not love Pakistan, but please tell me who does? Everyone is nothing but selfish, every party, every leader, every politician.

Singling Panjabis out is totally unfair.

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Forget unfair. Its idiotic. I mean what does one man's action have to do with an entire province? Its like saying due to Bhutto and Zardari, all Sindhis are crooks. Or due to the Taliban all Pathans are crazy suicide bombers.

The poster is a dumbass.

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:D really funny.

As if disputing proposed amendments to constitution is an unpatriotic thing to do. As if Nawaz represents Punjab. As if PPP represents all other provinces.

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NS is in OPPOSITION. What do you expect from him? write blank cheque for Zardari and commit suicide? PML(N) is the biggest opposition party and will try to block every move (even good ones) from Govt. It has nothing to do with punjab and non punjab

I disagree with your thread, and I am not a punjabi

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LOL

come on, welcome to politics OP

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You all are avoiding the real question. N$ is not sole representative of Punjab. He could not get even 50%. Don't blame Punjab for nonsense of N$. He was never a politician. Always working under umbrella of establishment .
Do you know what was the immediate reaction everywhere show clear on TV. Even Geo anchors were asking ." Kis ka telephone Aaya tha ?"

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The biggest enemy of Pakistan is the ignorance of the Pakistani people themselves, no one else.

Nobody loves Pakistan, because that's how na-shukray we are. Neither do you, Kinnare.

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Punjabis*

I agree with your post.

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I dont know if the news is true or not. but one thing is for sure, NS will do everything and anything to deny the credit of 18th amendment to Zardari. He has played those games in the past as well. most prolly he will go out of country when the bill is presented and let his mouthpieces play the bad cop. And finally he will come for the rescue as a good cop and try to share the credit.
This bill has been long worked on by every single party. he could have raised his voice then but he chose to stay quite.
i am sure Zardari has few cards up his sleeves as well..

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^ Thats exactly what happend. As per jang, NS gave ok to 18th amendment after talking to PM and when PM signed the summary to call the session for 18th Amendment and President’s address to Parliment, NS shocked PM (and Govt) by refusing. He basically dont want o give credit to PPP for this. He first thought hat Zardari will not go ahead with forfeiting his powers but Zardari had no other way out so he did.

NS did exactly what he blame Zardari for i.e baat ker k muker jana … (U turn that is)

http://www.awaz.tv/playvideo.asp?pageId=8057

Listen to whole clip specially b/w minutes 13-14 Ishaq dar told journalist “its the part of game” when asked k Ishaq sahab judges k mamley per tu ittefaq-e-rai ho gaya tha

:omg: zafar ali shah “kia meesaq-e-jamhooriyat…awam iss k paband tu nahee hain” and PML(N) was crying for it from last 2 years …

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From yesterday members of the committee like Ahsan Iqbal, Ishaq dar. Khawaja Asif have vanished.. couple of days back they were saying everything has been finalized.. note its a remaerable achievement of 37 members of which only 4 are from PPP..

I dont agree with the post heading - its nothing to do with Punjab - it just the bafoon headed - nihari, khad, paye loaded Nawaz Sharif... what teh hell were his committee members were doing when they had spent lat 9 months on deliberations..

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1000&% agree ^^

main tou keh keh ke hi thak geya koi sunda i nai:chupki: te manda wi nai:D

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I am from Punjab... and I love Pakistan. I am disappointed at the attitude of the biggest party of Punjab on these vital amendments necessary to restore the confidence of smaller provinces. I don't blame the opening statement of the thread opener if he feels that way. But be assured a lot of people in Punjab feel the same way as the others, as we are Pakistanis first and Punjabis later..

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I have no doubt that gunja is playing Punjab card & its bad for the country’s future. It seems like he hasn’t learned anything, but funny thing is that it makes Zardari look good and NS look bad…something that many people thought could’t happen.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

PRESS GALLERY: Sharifs unveil ‘Punjab Card’ to prolong zero-sum game

http://dailytimes.com.pk/images/2010/03/26/20100326_02.jpg

By Saeed Minhas

ISLAMABAD: With the Sharifs unveiling their ‘Punjab Card’, Maulana Diesel trying to get even with the government, ‘Bhai logs’ of Karachi going into a pensive mood and nationalists getting a hint coupled with the success of the Kiyani-Qureshi-led strategic dialogues in the US, an under-siege government is likely to find more bumpy roads ahead.

Is it a credit-game or a zero-sum game? No matter how we look at it, Law Minister Barber Awan to some extent, and a non-elected party chief in the shape of Nawaz Sharif to quite a major extent, has played a Brutus by stalling the process that would have likely established the democratic institutions and weakened the forces of centralisation.

A nine-month long sojourn for parliamentary supremacy has ended in a zero-sum game, as PML-N leader Nawaz Sharif seems to have committed yet another political blunder by not only digressing from the Charter of Democracy and playing his ‘Punjab Card’, but also by siding with the forces of the status-quo and his political mentors on Thursday. If the smiles of Garrison-town-boy Chaudhry Nisar and the shyness of Mian Sahib was something to notice, then the movements of the power-sniffing ‘bhai logs’ and Maulanas’ were also worth noticing.

An unusual session of the National Assembly and then the Senate was called to get things moving away from a quasi-presidential system to a pretty much parliamentary system as envisaged by the forefathers of the 1973 constitution. All these hopes were given a jolt by none other than the man who very recently was claiming to have learned his lessons from history and was vowing to be willing to sacrifice his life to uphold democratic traditions.

What crossed his mind or what triggered this change of heart remained an omni-point of discussions amongst all parliamentarians.

Although, PPP legislators were all smiles knowing that the president would continue to hold on to his powers, but pretending to convey the message that “Mian Sahib is as ‘political’ as he was throughout the 80s and 90s”. Leaguers, however, avoided hitting the floor of the House or the corridors, knowing well that they won’t have any answers to the queries of inquisitive media corps.

Had it been the issue of not keeping him in the loop over the Pak-US strategic dialogue, then Mian Sahib should have mentioned it through his legally elected representatives in the Parliamentary Committee on Constitutional Reforms or throughout the past nine months, but he did not. As an analyst put it, Mian Sahib had a wishful thinking that the reforms committee would come to a deadlock and that he would then lead this stalemate to demand a mid-term elections assuming that he is at the zenith of his popularity. But after the unforced error committed by his younger brother Shahbaz Sharif and ultimate rebuke from the ‘Big Boss’, he seems to have realised that he is not in the good books of the Americans or the Khakis, therefore, the best way is to stall the process.

But as our senator-friend from the party of ‘Bhai logs’ raised the query that can a single party hijack the whole national agenda? He said that if so, he has opened a ‘Pandora’s box’ by giving an open invitation to all national and even linguistic parties to seek the division of Punjab into smaller units to end this monopoly game. He said that ‘Bhai logs’ had been wondering all along if the Sharifs had really changed and would let Asif Zardari of all people, take credit for amending the constitution.

If it was a case of appointment of judges, then his demand to include a retired judge in the judicial commission was acceded to the very next day by the reforms committee, then why is he still complaining, asked a political observer.

To put forward another of his lame excuses, Mian Sahib mentioned the differences with the Awami National Party over renaming NWFP. But when his kitchen-cabinet was asked about the same issue, they all sounded quite hopeful that after meeting with the ANP leaders, the issue would be resolved amicably. Why has Mian Sahib taken all this burden of proving that he belongs to the same old hands, which nurtured him in politis and then booted him out of it, remained on every legislators’ mind.

‘Barber Awan’, who has been on a tailor-made medical leave just like he was on leave when the restoration of judges issue surfaced, wanted to take credit by making a premature announcement about the 18th amendment. It was obvious that he was not considered very close to the presidential camp and was hoping that without even attending a majority of the 60 odd meetings of the reforms committee, he would take the credit by leaking the final outcome. Although it antagonised Raza Rabbani and many other members of the committee, but what dumbfounded them all was the faux pas of the Sharifs.

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This blockhead is going to screw over the entire nation for his own petty political goals. What a douche. I certainly hope this causes him more trouble than the PPP led Government. We need all these amendments to be put in place and ensure the supremacy of the constitution.

I just hope they come up with a solution to the NWFP name quickly so we can move ahead with this. The nation needs some damn positive news at this stage.

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This attitude of NS proves my point that, unless and until we move ahead and start throiwng all the current leadership in the garbage can of history, nothing is going to benefit Pakistan..

The Const. of 1973 was suppose to be the best document ever and suppose to change the everything, but nothing changed, we the people have best book amoung us ( the Quran) and still we are in misery... the reason is that we have selected NS, Zardari, Altaf, Wali Khan kind of people as our leaders...

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Bhai in summary ... jaisay log waisa hukumraan.

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Very true

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may be NS is saving powers for when he becomes president