Re: Please Help: Need this book
Not want to start usual shia sunni thread , some points are noteworthy
Muavia( ra) seems to be doing Baghawat against the elected caliph Ali(ra), killed many of his followers , some governors , looted property and ummah's consensus over that Ali(ra) was on haq , thast quite true, few scholars take it as Ijtihaadi mistake, but writer mentions some incidents about Dia'at of non muslim to muslim, cursing Ali(ra), Khutba while sitting as Biddat started by Muavia(ra) so its not right to take Muavia(ra) as Mujjtahid to accept his ijtihadi mistake but some scholars also consider the murderers of usman(ra) in Ali(ra) army without any punishment but Ummah's consensus is that he was neither involve nor supporter of this martyrdom , he wanted Qasaas when his caliphate established but at Jamal, the murderers of Usman at night of Jamal , turned the table
Killed Hujr bin Adi(ra) who used to raise voice against Ali(ra) in Kufa and Ziyaad caught him. One thing needs clarification, after Hassan Muavia peace pact, raisng voive against Muavia(ra) is questionable as now he was , by any mean, ruler of the islamic world. in Kufa people used to gather at his home but when trial came only few people left with him, as usual you can expect from Ahle Kufa !
There was no strict justice over Governors, in Egypt the Aamil was made just that he forced Abdullah ibne Umr bin Ala's, a very pious sahabi, to forcefully give his hand in muavia(ra) hand
Aisha(ra) anger over Hujr(ra) mrtyrdoma nd Ibne Umar(ra) weeping on street on hearing his death
Marvan's shameless character in tabarra over Ali(ra) and even cursing Hassan(ra) as donkey(Naozobillah)
Muavia(ra) very wrong decision of appointing Yazeed which bad character was visible to everyone, with plea to unite muslims after his death , though they divided
*Maulana Maududi praising some virtues of Muavia(ra) in last chapter , some narrations about his depression about few crimes he did against Ali(ra) and Hujr(ra)
Thats just points, summary type, not shia sunni fighting thread. Both sides have 1400 years claims, battles, arguments, go to ansar or answering ansar, tons of materials.Allah is the best Judge, quoting Hassan Basri , the things upon which Sahabas agree, we accept that and upon which they differ, we remain silent as we were not present at time so cannot be responsible for anything happened at that time.