Pig Fats.

I got this in an email. I have never read anything like that before. How true could this be?

Bismillah hir Rehman nir Rahim

DANGER OF EATING HARAM PRODUCTS

By Yasir Muhammad Khan & Sheikh Sahib

There are many products containing PIG FAT, which we might not notice in the ingredients. Sheikh Sahib have worked in the food department of France for ten years. His duty dealt with the registration of food and cosmetic items

Before launching the product the manufacturer would bring a specimen to me with a list of components used in it. I would send the specimen to laboratory for examination. Then I would compare the ingredients appearing in the laboratory report with the ones mentioned in the list submitted by the company. If there were no discrepancies, I would issue the registration letter. I noticed that some of the component lists submitted by the companies carried some codes like **“E141” **and **“E904”. **In the beginning, I was very surprised at reading these codes. When I asked my senior officers about the codes, they said, ‘check only the components and don’t consider these letters’.

This increased my curiosity and I started investigating at my own. I came to know startling facts. My investigation revealed that pig meat is eaten in all Europe, America and Far East. In these countries, there are millions of farms for breeding pigs. In France alone, there are 42 thousand such farms. When the pigs reach a certain age, they are slaughtered and their meat is supplied to the markets. People eat pig flesh. In Europe and America, people do not eat fats at all while pig has a lot of fats

Some two hundred years ago, pig farms and slaughter-houses were formally set up and pork was supplied to the consumers under supervision big problem to dispose of the fat. In the beginning they used to burn the fat but later they thought to use it in products. So, the pig fat was melted and used in making soap. The experiment was successful. Then, plants were set up to process the fat. The packed fat was brought in market where companies would put the fat for using it in food and drinks.

In the beginning of this century, quality control was systematized. European countries started to introduce quality control over food, drinks, lotions and drugs, and directed the manufacturing companies to print a list of ingredients and their effects. The companies started printing “Pig Fat” on the wrappers and bottles.

But when these products came to Islamic countries, the Muslims boycotted them. You must know the background of the freedom war in 1857 in India. At that time, rifle bullets were sent to India from Europe via sea. During the six-month journey in the sea, the bullets would get moisturized due to humid and salty air of sea and were no longer usable. Britain would put a coating on the bullets to preserve them. To use the bullets, the soldiers would peel the fat coating with their teeth. This continued for some time, but when the local soldiers came to know that the coating was made of pig fat, they revolted. The revolt turned into the freedom war of 1857.

Muslims around the world learnt that the European, products had pig fats, and the sale was adversely affected. The manufacturing companies raised a hue and cry and the European governments allowed them to print “animal fats” instead of “pig fats”. Now the companies declared that their products used animal fats. But westerners kill the animals in a violent manner by electrocuting them or cutting the neck in one goes with machines. The Muslims slaughter the animals in Islamic way and believe slaughtering through electrocution as haraam, and do not eat the flesh, fat, etc of an animal slaughtered in such way.font

The European companies renamed the “pig fats” as “animal fats”, but the Muslims refused to accept as halaal all the animals slaughtered by the Europeans and started boycotting the European products having an animal ingredient

This was the time when the companies had taken the shape of multinational companies and their products were being sold in the seven continents. The companies did not want to lose a one-third of their buyers. Secondly, the number of products and the output of companies had increased so much that it was nearly impossible to arrange for the fat of halaal animals or corn oil. If the companies had obtained the fats of animals slaughtered in Islamic ways or used corn oil. Their budget would have been affected and the cost would have increased

Thirdly, the pig fat would have gone in waste. After prolonged deliberation, the European minds devised a solution that the companies should not mention “fat” on the ingredient list.

But there was a problem that under the law, the manufacturers were bound to print the names of ingredients. To solve this problem, they defined codes for animal ingredients used in the products. The codes represented which animal’s ingredient was used in which ratio. The list of codes was sent to food departments of different countries. Since then, the companies mention only the codes and thus make billions of dollars profits every year.

It is a pity that the Muslims are unknowingly using these products. One major reason of the increasing obscenity and debauchery in the Muslim countries is the SHAVING CREAM, TOOTHPASTE, CHEWING GUMS, CHOCOLATES, SWEETS, BISCUITS, TOFFEES, CORN FLAKES, CANNED FOODS, FRUIT TINS and some Multi-Vitamin tablets in which fats of haraam animals have been used.

Since these goods are being used in all MUSIM countries indiscriminately, our society is facing problems like Shamelessness, rudeness and sexual promiscuity. So i request all MUSLIMS to check the ingredients of the ITEM of Daily use and match it with the following list of E-CODES. If any of the E-Code found in the ingredients list , then avoid that product as it has got PIG FAT. Also inform other Muslim fellows about it.

Please print a copy and take it with you on every shopping trip.

E-100 E-110 E-120 E-140 E-141

E-153 E-160a E-210

E-213 E-214 E-216 E-234 E-252

E-270 E-280 E-325

E-326 E-327 E-334 E-335 E-336

E-337 E-422e E-430

E-431 E-432 E-433 E-434 E-435

E-436 E-440 E-470

E-471 E-472a-e E-473 E-474 E-475

E-476 E-477 E-478

E-481 E-482 E-483 E-491 E-492

E-493 E-494 E-495

E-542 E-570 E-572 E-631 E-635

E-640 E-904 E-920

Source: http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=001294;p](“http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=001294;p”)

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**One major reason of the increasing obscenity and debauchery in the Muslim countries is the SHAVING CREAM, TOOTHPASTE, CHEWING GUMS, CHOCOLATES, SWEETS, BISCUITS, TOFFEES, CORN FLAKES, CANNED FOODS, FRUIT TINS and some Multi-Vitamin tablets in which fats of haraam animals have been used.

Since these goods are being used in all MUSIM countries indiscriminately, our society is facing problems like Shamelessness, rudeness and sexual promiscuity.**

how does inadvertently eating pig fat thru these products (if this article is valid to begin with) turn you into a jerk?

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i think farm-raised pigs r good, innocent and 'shareef'. How can they induce rudeness and shamelessness? On the other hand, many bakras r so shameless and they do bad things to each other, and muslims eat them!

Me and my girlfriend (Romanian), have been eating pork for a long time, and we both r still decent, faithfull to each other, and exteremely courteous to ppl. So I dont think pigs make us Muslims any bad. You just have to adjust with its taste (which is beef and chicken combined), but it is so delicious. I use Shaan Masala to make BBQ pork, and my gf loves it.

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LOL .. a lot of this is wrong and pretty much total paranoia. The E-number system was devised as means of categorising the increasing numbers of additives in foods, and forced by the EU rather than European companies. European governments have never concealed access to what these numbers actually mean. The idea is that from the first digit of each number, you can identify the purpose for which the additive is in the food.

EU countires use this code list when identifying which additives are legal and which are not.

However paranoid the fanciful anti-Muslim theories of the writer are, there is an underlying truth that some e-numbered additives can be derived from haraam sources so Muslims should be careful.

A more reasoned article, with details, can be found at:

http://www.muslimconsumergroup.com/enumbers.htm

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From your post, you seem like a muslim since you mentioned “us Muslims”. The first and foremost thing is that Allah has forbidden us to eat pork.

That’s enough reason for us to follow and obey.

Maddy how were we to imagine what E123 or E777 is to mean? Why can’t they mention the ingredients in simple terms? :disgust: I never imagined stuff like E422 would actually refer to pork fat?

Yuck!

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Little human, you should not believe everything that you read on the internet.

E422 is not pork fat, it is glycerol. Glycerol can be extracted from either plant matter or from animal fats, including pork fat. Some companies will include glycerol made form plant sources in their products, others will include glycerol from animal sources.

Remember, the person who wrote the original article included many paranoid outright lies.

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how about pork valves used in humans that saves lives is it haram?

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I for one woujld rather die than have a pig valve in my heart.

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Ditto

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I for one wouldn’t die. Given a choice between death and living with a pig valve, I’d choose life. Classical case of necessity vs prohibition

Fatwa backing my view: http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=91565
Scholars named in the fatwa as having expressed the same view: Sheikh Yousaf Al-Qaradawi, Mufti Ebrahim Desai, Sheikh Ibn Baz.

Maniac & AQ : Why would you rather die than have the pig valve?

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eating pork is forbidden....

is using a product which has pig fat as component also forbidden????
references????
i mean using external products like shaving cream etc....

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Mad Scientist........ you seem like a sane man in this rather strange thread....

Have to say Im with PGC with regards to the article.

And Lost soul
perhaps you should post your pork recipes in Life2, im sure they'll be appreciated

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Because i find the pig disgusting, i wouldnt be able to live with myself knowing there’s a pig inside of me. Then PCG would be right..men are pigs!

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There is no hadith or Ayah that tells us not to use such products and so it’s a matter of ambiguity. Different scholars differ in their views.
Having said that, it’s the duty of a good Muslim to stay away from ambiguous things.

(Allah knows best)

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The prominent Muslim scholar, Mufti Ebrahim Desai, adds: “If there is almost certain fear of loss of life or danger of losing the limb or organ, and the replacement is only found in haram animals or in permissible animals (which can be eaten) but not slaughtered according to Islamic rites, then use of such a component will be permissible. However, if there is no imminent danger of loss of life, then it will not be permissible to use anything from the pig.” (Source:
http://www.albalagh.net)

Sheikh ibn Baz, the late eminent Muslim scholar and former Mufti of Saudi Arabia was also of the view that “transplanting an organ from an animal lawful for Muslim consumption and which has been slaughtered or an animal not lawful for Muslim consumption, the latter under necessity, is permissible.” (Muqarrat Majlis al-Majma` al Fiqhi al Islami, Makkah, 1405/1985, page 147
http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=91565

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Y don’t u come to my house? I am sure u will return with fresh ideas and no apetite :smiley:

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You never know homes…eastern euro trash are known one thing…whoring…maybe she’s two timing you on your back…I wonder why desi men, particularly the Paki stock gravitates towards the quintessential eastern european type…are they the only white women that are “easy”…on the side Pakistani ambassador to UN, Munir Akram had a eastern european trash as a girlfriend, who he happened to beat up, leading to a major diplomatic row and embarrassment…

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What about that thing I heard once…what was it…yeah if somebody is starving…pig is allowed as a means of food? I just heard it- it could just be rumour.

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Well, if u have a problem in idenitifying if ur wife or gf is whoring, then u have a bigger problem…a bedroom issue of ur own.

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lol … what’re the chances of that happening ? You’re starving and there’s nothing to eat but pork ??? :hehe: If there’s pork, there HAS to be beef or chicken around. All you have to do is look :slight_smile: