Pictures- in the light of islam

Man, after reading this I feel bad for my 7.0 MP camera :frowning:

This applies to pictures on clothes, walls, stones, coins and all things whether they are made from
wax, pastes, steel, copper, wool or otherwise.
Allah, the Almighty said,
Those who annoy Allah and His Messenger-Allah has cursed them in this world and in the Hereafter, and
has prepared for them a humiliating punishment.
(AI-Ahzab: 57)

'Ikrimah said, what is meant by "Those who annoy Allah and His Messenger are picture-makers. On the
authority of Ibn 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with him), "The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said,
"On the Day of Judgment, the picture-makers will be punished and will be told, "Bring to life what
you have created.” 1
On the authority of 'Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her) who said, "Once the Messenger of
Allah (pbuh) came back from a journey while I unintentionally covered myself with a curtain on which
there were pictures of statutes. Upon seeing it, the face of the Messenger of Allah was changed and said,

"0 'Aishah, the most severely punished among people (on the Day of Judgment) will be those who try to
create some thing similar to what Allah has created. 'Aishah (may Allah be pleased with he) said, 'I cut it
off and made from it two cushions.” 2

On the authority of Ibn 'Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) who said,
"I heard the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) saying,** "Every picture-maker will be in Hell-Fire, in which there**
will be, with every picture he has made (in the worldly life), a soul with which he will be tortured.” 3

Ibn ’ Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) also reported that, "I heard the messenger of Allah (pbuh)
saying,
"In the worldly life, whoever made a picture, he would be ordered, on the Day of Judgment, to put life into
it which he would never be able to do.” 4
The Prophet (pbuh) has also been reported to have said,

"Allah the Almighty says, who does greater wrong than he who desires to create the like of what I create? Let
them create a grain of barely! Let them create an atom.” 5
The Prophet (pbuh) said,
"On the Day of Judgment, a neck (person) will come out from the Hell and will say, "1 am
entrusted with three persons, whoever associated with Allah other partners, every tyrant and oppressor and
picture-maker.” 1
The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said,
"The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture.” 2

As for keeping dogs, it is prohibited if they are used in purposes other than guarding groups of people
or for hunting. But if a person is obliged to keep them, for certain purposes, there will be no wrong in this.
By the same token, if the person keeps dogs for guarding his house, there will also be no wrong in this.
As for pictures, it includes everything, which has a soul, whether they are erected bodies, or painted in
a ceiling or on a wall or placed in a certain pattern or woven in clothes or places. In all these cases, pictures
should be avoided.
Pictures should be defaced and removed in cases where the person is able to do so. In his Sahih,
Muslim reported on the authority of Hayyan Ibn Husain who said, "Ali Ibn Abi Talib (may Allah be
pleased with him) told me saying,** "Should I teach you something on which the Messenger of Allah (pbuh)**
has brought to me? Do not leave a picture until you erase it, or a raised grave unless leveling it.” 5

1 Reported by At- Tifll1idhi.
2 Reported by A1-Bukhari.
3 Reported by Abu Dawud.
4 Reported by At- Tifll1idhi.
5 Reported by Muslim.

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bro, i can ease your pain. pm me and i will paypal you the shipping amount for your shaitaani 11MP cam to be UPSed to me.

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Google some more to get other view points.

The basic question is that just because you have an 11.0 MP digital camera or camcorder and take pics/videos with it, does that qualify you as a "picture maker".

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:)

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shoot the scenery from now on.

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How is drawing/painting a picture of a person any different from taking a snapshot of a person?

Please do keep in mind why making pictures of humans was declared haraam in the first place.

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Thats a great question. Many scholars of Islam have gone to great lengths to differentiate these two. May be they are all wrong. Google and ye shall find.

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Man after reading this I feel bad for you. Because you read this and it sounds so “Islamic” and authoritative with “references” you have to believe it?

Picture-makers are on par with those who associate partners Allah with other partners and every tyrant and oppressor? :eek:

Does this mean you will be be defacing or removing your gupshup icon?

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**Queer, actually I am planning to give it to my neighbor; he is also a queer. But if that homosexual refuse to buy, I will keep you in mind. **
-Salman

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Done !

And thank you for feeling my pain on such level. You are my true brother in Islam.
-Salman

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Faisal bhai, you are right at what you are saying and I totally understand it. But the fact is that 99.9% of the time majority of the people use and buy digital camera to take pictures of living beings. After reading these hadiath and all I will try to reduce and limit my picture taking abilities only to non-human beings. JazakAllah.
-Salman

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Other sheikhs who do not permit drawing or carving images of living things, however, argue that photography is halal so long as certain conditions are not breached

"Photography as a medium of communication or for the simple, innocent retention of memories without the taint of reverence/shirk does not fall under the category of forbidden Tasweer.

One finds a number of traditions from the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, condemning people who make Tasweer, which denotes painting or carving images or statues. It was closely associated with paganism or shirk. People were in the habit of carving images and statues for the sake of worship. Islam, therefore, declared Tasweer forbidden because of its close association with shirk (association of partners with Allah). One of the stated principles of usul-u-Fiqh (Principles of Islamic Jurisprudence) is that if anything directly leads to haram, it is likewise haram. In other words, Tasweer was forbidden precisely for the reason that it was a means leading to shirk.

The function of photography today does not fall under the above category. Even some of the scholars who had been once vehemently opposed to photography under the pretext that it was a form of forbidden Tasweer have later changed their position on it - as they allow even for their own pictures to be taken and published in newspapers, for videotaping lectures and for presentations; whereas in the past, they would only allow it in exceptional cases such as passports, drivers’ licenses, etc. The change in their view of photography is based on their assessment of the role of photography.

Having said this, one must add a word of caution: To take pictures of leaders and heroes and hang them on the walls may not belong to the same category of permission. This may give rise to a feeling of reverence and hero worship, which was precisely the main thrust of the prohibition of Tasweer. Therefore, one cannot make an unqualified statement to the effect that all photography is halal. It all depends on the use and function of it. If it is for educational purpose and has not been tainted with the motive of reverence and hero worship, there is nothing in the sources to prohibit it."

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well said brother !!!

Dont tell me that you dont have a picture of yours in the drivers license and the passport.!!!

Hey why dont you go on the rampage and kill all people who use cameras to take pictures of living beings. Start a new jehad maybe

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And what about those who post a picture of a na-Mehram on a website?

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What the hell are you talking about ? And who are you talking to ? People like you make Jihad ( *an extremely important pillar of islam *) sound like a guna-e-kabira or something.
-Salman

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Maddy yaar, you do make a valid point in my opinion. I remember one time this local moulana was questioned for the fact that he listenned to a cd-walkman and yet he gives lectures on how songs are bad and all. The people later found out that he only listenned to Talwaat’s and Quran. And hence he said that ’ its not the walkman that is bad, the use of it by human that makes it bad or good.'.

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This is part of a fatwa from Islam Q & A..
Very interesting points are made..

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=q...se&QR=365&dgn=4

***…Among the scholars who have discussed the issue of photography is Shaykh Naasir al-Deen al-Albaani, who said: "Some of them differentiate between hand-drawn pictures and photographic images by claiming that the latter are not products of human effort, and that no more is involved than the mere capturing of the image. This is what they claim. The tremendous energy invested the one who invented this machine that can do in few seconds what otherwise could not be done in hours does not count as human effort, according to these people! Pointing the camera, focusing it, and taking the picture, preceded by installation of the film and followed by developing and whatever else that I may not know about… none of this is the result of human effort, according to them!

Some of them explain how this photography is done, and summarize that no less than eleven different actions are involved in the making of a picture. In spite of all this, they say that this picture is not the result of human action! Can it be permissible to hang up a picture of a man, for example, if it is produced by photography, but not if it is drawn by hand?

Those who say that photography is permitted have “frozen” the meaning of the word “tasweer,” restriciting it only to the meaning known at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and not adding the meaning of photography, which is “tasweer” or “picture-making” in every sense - linguistic, legal, and in its harmful effects, and as is clear from the definition mentioned above. Years ago, I said to one of them, By the same token, you could allow idols which have not been carved but have been made by pressing a button on some machine that turns out idols by the dozen. What do you say to that?"
(Aadaab al-Zafaaf by al-Albaani, p. 38)…***

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^^ Jazakallah for that.

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I think that is the punch line.

Anyways my conclusion so far is that why RISK something which might cause the narazagi of your Rasool saw and Allah swt, when you can avoid it ? I bet 100% of the muslim’s can very well live without pictures in their houses at least ? But do they take the effort to avoid any such ? No, it all boils down to the understanding of islam and the ‘Darr’ and ‘Khauff’ of Allah swt, that by doing this it might upset HIM.

Anway’s, InshAllah I will try my best to avoid pictures but its really hard, at least one can try to minize it as much as possible. The rest is upto Allah swt to determine whether my effort hold some weight.
-Salman

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While the world researches forward, we research backwards, and then we wonder where has the ummah gone. After spending our energies on such matters of critical importance, we might as well go back and adopt the caveman life style. We dont deserve any progress.