PIA drunk pilot why a surprise

A PIA pilot was arrested by UK Police at Manchester airport from the cockpit of PK-716 on 5.2.2005. He had consumed alcohol immediately before coming to the plane. This should not be a surprise. When roaming of girls in our Eastern society wearing shorts (neekers) is officially blessed appreciated and encouraged, drinking wine on duty why should be a surprise. Lahore daily Khabrain contained a news how many tones of wine Lahoris consumed on Eid. The arrest by Saudi authorities of PIA General Manager entering the Holy Kabah while drunk if pass on the ears of our nation then such a simple drink case should be of worry that people have started letters to the editor. I am working in Gulf state Bahrain since 30 years. My work relates at airport. Sine the time when our rulers started bringing modernism like food streets everything changed. I am seeing for the last about eight years a change in PIA staff. When their flight comes from Pakistan during one hour landing each staff visits duty free shops. Ninety percent of them go to wine section and purchase two three bottles as it is most cheap here. Ten years before PIA staff never did it.

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You should come to Dubai & see them saudis & bahrainis drink it out too. Dont worry its not just the Pakis, its everywhere. :jhanda:

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I can not understand why people start making comments without reading, without understanding. writing without relevant point is just to see own name published. The posting by iqbajwa is drinking by aeroplane flight staff on duty and purchasing the drink before flight "chuskee' of which can be taken during flight. The pasting of bajwa is about flight safety and a good comment. Malik is jumping about drinking habits generally. Of course drinking in Pakistan is not unique now. It has entered in most of segment of life due to speedy and easy money. But drinking by aviation staff on duty or just before duty should be a matter of serious discussion, protests, criticism by people like Malik. Please make comments after understanding and do not just put your words to make this Forum non serious and just an ordinary waste of time reading. Do make comments, do contribue, contribution on such topics is in fact your share to national responsibilities but with patience and to the point.

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munphat, do u think I lied about saudis…:kiss: if u think u cannot handle the truth, perhaps u should come to Dubai. I clearly understood what iqbawanja said about drinking on duty.

Just yesterday a new 777 caught fire in Manchester airport. The reason - they use cheap grease for the landing gear. Now the cabin crew wasnt drunk…so what do they do, they open up the chutes, & ask the passengers to get out. This was not a life threatening situation.

PIA cabin crew is the worse trained crew in the business. A couple of years back a PIA aircraft from Lahore landed in Dubai & skidded after the front landing gear snapped & slid into the sand. It was not a life threatening situation & according to CAA you have to wait for the captain’s orders, evacuate the passengers first & then the crew jumps out, & the captain is always last to evacuate. The funny part to this story is that the crew opened the doors & the chutes & jumped out first…:rotfl: What about the passengers. What happened after this was chaos & passengers in fact got injured after jumping out from the aircraft. Because there was no one on board to intruct them on the proper jumping techniques.

According to CAA rules you cannot open chutes unless the passengers are in a life threatening situation. It is very Xpensive to maintain those chutes, they are sent back to UK, overhauled & then sent back. Do u think PIA can handle all of this at the Xpense of idiot cabin crew that is not at all well trained…?

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There are a bunch of disjointed points made in the post. I think the most serious one should be a drunk pilot showing up to fly a huge plane full of passengers. Thats a flight safety risk, and no airline, not even the most liberal western airlines tolerate that. There were several such cases reported last year in America alone for various American or international airlines. One would hope that airlines will enforce strict penalties to ensure that pilots don’t show up for duty drunk.

But then the serious point was diluted by a general discussion of nudity in society (that has absolutely no relevance to flight safety), food streets (again no relevance) and a random comment about wine buying habits of people in Bahrain Airport. By the way, the 90% figure is thrown out, that I am pretty suce can not be backed by anything other than anecdotal evidence embellished a few times to make it sound remotely interesting.

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[quote=“mal1k”]
munphat, do u think I lied about saudis…:kiss: if u think u cannot handle the truth, perhaps u should come to Dubai. I clearly understood what iqbawanja said about drinking on duty.

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Doesn’t surprise me about PIA crew. Drinking aside, my wife and I flew to Bangkok a few years back. The stewardess was very freindly. To my shock, we bumped into her in Indira market, wearing tighter than tight jeans, boyfriend on left arm!!

In Singapore on the same trip, we stayed in the same hotel as PIA crew. The stewardesses happened to be on my floor. Their doors were always open, they kept going from one room to another, and the smell of cigarettes and alcohol from their general direction was all-consuming.

I remember the PIA stewardesses from the 70’s. They were so much more refined and glamourous. The current lot, (1980 onwards) are a disgrace.

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Pakis are the most jaahil, uneducated and unsophisticated people ever.

True a lot of people drink and do things like that but other nationalities do it with style and have some sort of limit, whilst Pakis… Fcukin FOBs don’t know if they’re coming or going.

Drinking before flying a plain, before entering the Haram Shareef and Eid a sacred day is just plain fcuking retarded.

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I remember the Airbus parked up near terminal 2. It was there for ages. I think UAE laws prevent aircraft involved in such incidents to be used again…correct me if I’m wrong but this is what I have heard.

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since when it becomes safe to sit in a plane that is at fire risk??? its life threatening risk even its just a fire alarm.

but investigation to this incidence is that it was just over heated and cause of smoke was noticed by passing by plane crew.
in any case, fire alarms are high risk and life threatening.

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btw, PIA shouldnt be considered separately, two BA polits arrested by german police, and one at heathrow last year.

in another incidence another airline easy jet or ryan air pilot was also arrested last year.

its just we blame too much if we find anything like that. pilot drink and get caught and most of time they escape. too bad practise.

they should be stripped off from license and stay on the land and become "JAHAZ" themself by drinking.

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yes that food street is the devil’s hangout.. don’t go there.. it has spoilt the whole nation..

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shabash pakistanis naaam roshan karo...agar daaru peenay hai to flight ke baad peeyo...magar yeah i guess it is about placing too many restrictions...jahaan waqt mila inhon ne daaru charhaani hai

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good points faisal..here is another gem that I caught

When roaming of girls in our Eastern society wearing shorts (neekers) is officially blessed appreciated and encouraged, drinking wine on duty why should be a surprise

1- I have not seen any official resolutions encouraging shorts
#2- If we think that there is a direct correlation between shorts and drinking, then I would think that there was no drinking going on during Zia’s “islamic” period.

public bhi bas…vent karna hai toh karro…magar logic ka saath toh na chorrain na

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Logic hota tau yahan hotay hai, aap ki tarah achi si BM aur Merc na chala rahay hotay ye log :blush:

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food street needs to be abolished and a rule passed that no more than 2 restaurants can be on any city block. brother you dont know the dangers of having food streets..:stuck_out_tongue: hahahahah

kahan kahan say aa jatay hain uth kar..

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read ur 2nd para, that is the answer to ur 1st question. Cabin crew has to wait for instructions from the pilot, they cannot even open or close the doors of an aircraft after it has landed & made a complete stop.

Next time ur on board a flight, notice, that the captain, instructs the cabin crew for each & every plan of action, from preparing to close doors, to preparing for open doors, cabin crew has to obey orders.

This is not a Hollywood or Bollywood movie, where an aircraft bursts into an Xplosion on a runway during taxi. Fuel is stored in the wings, & not the belly. The belly holds cargo.

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No there is no rule, an aircraft can be repaired, its not a toyota corolla, its a 300 million dollar aircraft that ur talking about. Unless there is a major damage, like engine falling off, or the wings snapping, they can be used again.

After every flight, the pilot themselves check the belly of an aircraft for the slightest visible damage, even if it is a bird hitting & causing a scrape, the aircraft is grounded, untill it is repaired.

Other engine checks are carried out by the engineers on duty.

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chaddi na ho gayee. liquor lisense ho gaya :smiley:

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LOL…:rotfl:

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Pir Sahab aap bhi naa, Kabhi Kabhi gems Ugalte hou:rotfl: