Physical Relationship before marriage

[Cool_Breeze]

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@Cool Breeze

CONCLUSION: There are good and bad people everwhere. Majority of PK girls (both in PK and in West) have values. I am sure same with the guys. We can't make the decision based on minority Being physical before marriage is wrong and sin Culture is far less imp. than Islam

Ok. everyone relax and read my conclusion so we can end this discussion.:)

[Impulse]

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@Cool Breeze

I agree with you. THe problem is that we discuss about Pakistan when we aren't living there so most of our discussion is based on word of mouth. Whatever someone says, we listen. There are some facts that we can't ignore. 1. A vast majority of Pakistanis is still living with their religion and values. 2. A lot of things have been changing there and being physical before marriage is one of them But its not as bad as in western countires so we can't compare. We can only find a very very small percentage. People doing in the parks etc. is not very common. 3. Since it is against our religion & culture, if someone sees something happening there, they make a very big deal out of it (even sometimes/rarely in the newspapers too) which makes us feel that things are getting worst there. 4. People go for dating in PK but plz keep in mind that majority of them just go for lunch or coffee. And that is still a definition of dating back home.

Plz do not compare Pakistan with the West. and don't say that situation is very bad after seeing one person in the park or listening from friends. Go, spend sometime there and see for yourself.

I totally agree with you. things back home are nowhere as bad as they are here in the West. its VERY HARD to find a virgin guy in the West......its a very rare thing.....if he's still virgin....hes probably gay or has no interest in girls.....majority sleep around and get away with it.

the people who are saying that Pakistan is bad etc.etc. how many of you have seen these bad things with ur own eyes? its not good to take second hand information.....cuz thats just spreading rumours.

[hussain87]

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@Impulse

the people who are saying that Pakistan is bad etc.etc.** how many of you have seen these bad things with ur own eyes?** its not good to take second hand information.....cuz thats just spreading rumours.

answer non:) ....

[Cool_Breeze]

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@Impulse

I totally agree with you. things back home are nowhere as bad as they are here in the West. its VERY HARD to find a virgin guy in the West......its a very rare thing.....if he's still virgin....hes probably gay or has no interest in girls.....majority sleep around and get away with it.

the people who are saying that Pakistan is bad etc.etc. how many of you have seen these bad things with ur own eyes? its not good to take second hand information.....cuz thats just spreading rumours.

Yeah. unfortunately, a lot of us are just used to of saying -ve things about PK.

[Impulse]

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@K4plan

I have fobby cousins and they are lovely ppl but I don't think they would be able to totally adjust themselves to the living style of life here. (Ofcourse there are the few who can but still thier way of thinking, judgement, mentality, personality makes all the difference)

what I hate most about ABCDs is thinking they are God's gift to the world....anyone can adjust to any place....there are millions of Pakistanis who have left Pakistan and adjusted to life in other countries. I personally know loads who have come to UK and adjusted even better than the people who were born here.

[K4plan]

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@Impulse

what I hate most about ABCDs is thinking they are God's gift to the world....anyone can adjust to any place....there are millions of Pakistanis who have left Pakistan and adjusted to life in other countries. I personally know loads who have come to UK and adjusted even better than the people who were born here.

ermmm actually I said its 'harder' to adjust to a different culture/lifestle to that of your own which you are used to.

Don't know where you jumped to the conclusion of ABCDS being gods gift. Do you even know what an ABCD is?.. cuz you sure aren't insulting me lol.

[kazi]

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@K4plan

ermmm actually I said its ‘harder’ to adjust to a different culture/lifestle to that of your own which you are used to.

Don’t know where you jumped to the conclusion of ABCDS being gods gift. Do you even know what an ABCD is?.. cuz you sure aren’t insulting me lol.

Some BBCDs are exactly the same as what Impulse has described!

[K4plan]

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@kazi

Some BBCDs are exactly the same as what Impulse has described!

I know and I’ll come up with your typical response. …but but most Pakistanis are also like that and and, you get these kind of ppl everywhere. Oh lord, I just closed up this potential 2-3 pages worth of a debate. lol kidding.

[PhatBalongri]

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Pakistanis are bad and corrupted but also two faced, so they are good at hiding it. ABCDs, BBCDs show it and arent afraid of letting people see the REAL them.

[K4plan]

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@PhatBalongri

Pakistanis are bad and corrupted but also two faced, so they are good at hiding it. ABCDs, BBCDs show it and arent afraid of letting people see the REAL them.

thinking of the right labeling term. Messi, messa, messni? Damn. Chaalak and cunning?

[PhatBalongri]

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I think the word you are looking for is misni lol but yeah they are def two faced

[Impulse]

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@K4plan

thinking of the right labeling term. Messi, messa, messni? Damn. Chaalak and cunning?

again generalising.....does that mean ur parents/grandparents who are originally from Pakistan (aka "FOBs") are also chalaak and cunning and everything else u have said about Fobs...?.

cuz ur parents/grandparents are FOBs too then. and you have been brought up by FOBS....which means you must have the influence of FOBs in your life since u were a baby...which makes you a FOB too

[K4plan]

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@Impulse

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Rofl, just jump off my ass, seriously.

I did not open up that post but only commented on it to gather exactly what he was implying.. miss 'genius'.

Oh and yes my grandparents are fobs... whats your point?

[K4plan]

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@Impulse

again generalising.....does that mean ur parents/grandparents who are originally from Pakistan (aka "FOBs") are also chalaak and cunning and everything else u have said about Fobs...?.

cuz ur parents/grandparents are FOBs too then

I think you quoted me by mistake instead of Phatbalongi who made the statement? lol.

I'll answer your question again anyway, yes my grandparents are from pakistani so if that makes them fobs then yes they are fobs. Yes they are also very chalaak.. I'm in no denial and I still don't understand your point?

lol typical Pakistani attack - lets jump on the family. haha

[K4plan]

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@PhatBalongri

I think the word you are looking for is misni lol but yeah they are def two faced

Thats it lol.

Yaar you made that statement and this Impulse kid is on my case. wth. LOL

[Impulse]

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@K4plan

I think you quoted me by mistake instead of Phatbalongi who made the statement? lol.

I'll answer your question again anyway, yes my grandparents are from pakistani so if that makes them fobs then yes they are fobs. Yes they are also very chalaak.. I'm in no denial and I still don't understand your point?

lol typical Pakistani attack - lets jump on the family. haha

before making several replies in a row....care to read my post carefully before asking questions I have already answered

"lol" and "haha" wont change the fact that you have nothing to say now

[kazi]

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@K4plan

I think you quoted me by mistake instead of Phatbalongi who made the statement? lol.

I’ll answer your question again anyway, yes my grandparents are from pakistani so if that makes them fobs then yes they are fobs. Yes they are also very chalaak.. I’m in no denial and I still don’t understand your point?

lol typical Pakistani attack - lets jump on the family. haha

i think the chalaak and meesnay golden oldies r sooo freakin cool

[Cool_Breeze]

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its not very hard to admit that all kind of people are everywhere.
when you say that PK people are cunning and chalaak - what do you mean - are westerns all innocents? - they're not cunning or chalaak.
Do Not Generalize. PLEASE

[K4plan]

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@Impulse

before making several replies in a row....care to read my post carefully before asking questions I have already answered

"lol" and "haha" wont change the fact that you have nothing to say now

You still don't make sense. All you;re doing is making a fool out of yourself. Instead of covering up for your faults and wrongdoings in the country , why not speak up against them and try to make the country a better place.
I am not against fobs but I dislike their certain ways/ideas and how they percieve life in general.. you have a problem with me being honest about it? Oh let me guess, the generalisations of being cunning and meesni is what you want me to fit in, right? Sorry but I can't live in denial.

Also before you attack me again, I have posted in many threads agreeing with wrongdoings of the western world...

Stop whilst you can, your irrelvant blabbering is annoying the hell out of me and I don't want to be rude to ignore your posts completely but then again that would give youa cheap sense comfort in thinking that I have nothing to say .... 'haha' 'lol'

[K4plan]

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@Cool Breeze

its not very hard to admit that all kind of people are everywhere. when you say that PK people are cunning and chalaak - what do you mean - are westerns all innocents? - they're not cunning or chalaak. Do Not Generalize. PLEASE

Is that question for me or phat balongi, since he made tha statement and I gave him the right terms to clarify it.