Physical Involvement

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Re: Physical Involvement

@Reha

Okay people…I am not sure why this is ruffling everyone’s feathers sooo much.

Its simple to understand…this is not deception nor is it lying. When it comes to prior relationships (its very important we understand this ONLY applies to prior relationships) it is discouraged to discuss them for obvious reasons. The past is the past and Allah swt is the only judge of all sins. Unless this past will affect your future, you have no reason nor obligation to disclose anything to anyone. That’s how it is. I am not sure how many times it has to be repeated that this only applies to prior relationships.

If you don’t like it…by all means do what you please. But please don’t twist things to make them look a way they’re not. Prior relationships and discussing them IS forbidden. If this Hadith was to your point, you’d never say another word. But since you don’t like it…you don’t want to believe it.

Its not my opinion…I am simply stating what I know. Do whatever you want, marry who you want, discuss what you want…mujhe kya?

That is based on the opinion citing this Hadith,

Abu Hurayrah Radiyallahu Anhu reported: “The Messenger of Allaah said: “Every member of my nation will be forgiven, except those who expose their wrongdoings. An example of this is that of a man who commits a sin at night which Allaah then conceals, but, the next morning,** he goes and says (to people): ‘I committed such and such a sin last night’ - **while Allaah had kept it secret. During the night Allaah had concealed it, but in the morning he tore up the cover provided by Allaah Himself.” [Al-Bukhaari & Muslim]

It is obvious that the Hadith talks about not publicing boasting about one’s sins. It stops one from voluntarily disclosing/announcing their sins. There is no mention of lying about it/withholding the truth IF ASKED.

Secondly, there is no mention of ‘prior Relationships’ only. It talks about ‘Sin’ , it could by any Sin: theft, lying, stealing, defrauding people, faking your documents, backbiting and the whole nine yards. So where did you assume this **‘prior relationship’ **rule?

Thirdly, It is mentioned in the Quran **“Women impure are for men impure and men impure are for women impure; and women of purity are for men of purity and men of purity are for women of purity”.
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Now how do you propose that this commandment in the **‘Quran’ **be carried out? Since, no two people would ever know about the past, so paving the way for impure men/women to marry pure men/women. Now, pure men and women have no way to adhere to this commandment if they can’t know about their prospective spouse.

I hope you have gone through the references, rather than just picking up on the Fatwa.

PS: Those making distinction between rape and fornication - saying that in one a person was hurt while the other is victimless- Just FYI, BOTH ARE SINS in Islam. Just because there are no laws against consensual sex in the west doesn’t mean it is not a punishable sin in islam. I hope people remember that it is CRIME islamically, punishable by lashes/stoning carried out by the court.

PS2: You are requested to read it calmly and respond.