photography haram?

What are your views on photography in islam?

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Simple answer, Yes.

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correct ans, no

explanation, detailed

Explain why u would say its haram or not! I know making pictures of ppl is haram (drawing/sketching) but the way i see it is that photography consists of taking a picture of allah (swt) creation... Unless i go edit the persons features etc i dont get why it would be haram. Ive read many quranic references based on sketching.. And also in the olden days photos were frowned upon was because people would worship them..

Pls explain ur views! :)

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i completely agree with you, i have the same opinion

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Peace,
“tasweer,” restriciting it only to the meaning known at the time of the Prophet :saw2: and not adding the meaning of photography, which is “tasweer” or “picture-making” in every sense - linguistic, legal, and in its harmful effects, and as is clear from the definition mentioned above. Years ago, I said to one of them, By the same token, you could allow idols which have not been carved but have been made by pressing a button on some machine that turns out idols by the dozen. What do you say to that?"
(Aadaab al-Zafaaf by al-Albaani, p. 38)

Photographs which are essential are permitted - such as those required for identity documents, or for identifying or pursuing criminals [e.g. “wanted” posters and the like - translator’s note], or for educational purposes which cannot be achieved otherwise. The principle in sharee’ah is that we should not exaggerate about what is necessary.

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I'm no religious scholar. So allow me to put a rational take on it. If Islam really is the perfect religion, then it should fit within a rational framework. The two most common arguments supporting the prohibition on photography are:-

  1. Photography is an attempt to recreate God's creation, which symbolically implies that you have God's power.
  2. Photographs and images may lead to idol worship, hence creating them is illegal.

Argument 1 is easily defeated. EVERYTHING is Allah's creation. By that logic, humans can not create anything since Allah has created everything. Baking a cake, surely, should also impinge upon God's role as the creator because you are creating something that Allah has created before you. This argument can't possibly be true, because it would outlaw all creation.

Argument 2 is more difficult to counter. Logically, the argument is this: if an event A leads to an event B, and event B is haraam, then event A should also be haraam. This argument can only work if the original event A is expected to lead to event B. If people don't reasonably expect A to lead to B, then it seems inappropriate for it to be haraam. It would open the door to people comitting sin without realizing the chain reaction their actions will cause. It's reasonable to conclude that only if A is reasonably expect to lead to B, that both should be haraam if B is haraam. In the case of photography, action A, taking the photograph, rarely leads to action B, worship of the photograph. So it's reasonable for people to expect A to not always lead to B. Hence B is haraam, and A is not.

I'm no imam, but my position, as detailed above, is that photography is not haraam.

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I wonder since when a cake having soul?

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So Allah only created things with a soul?

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Innamal amaloo bin niyaat.
Intention is the basis of action.
If a picture is taken to be worshiped , or a statue is carved for worship then it is haram to take a picture and create a statue of even an inanimate object.
For example some people worship sun and moon. Although basic Islamic principle has been defined for ages that drawing a picture of animate object is haram.
But what about drawing pictures of those things which are inanimate but people worship them like sun and the moon and fire , and a pine tree.

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Depends, What you need the Photo for.

Say you need to go to hajj or lets say you live in Pak and your parents live in Bangladesh and now you need passport to cross the border. and you need a picture on the passport.. to see your parents or lets say you want to go to hajj and need a new passport ..this cant be called a haraam pic.

but as Mirch says if for worship or just to hang it in your house esp if the person has passed away .. then i d say its not jaaiz or lets say you took pic of your mrz and you went around showing it to all ya mates then i d call it a haraam pic.

opinions vary

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Twisting the words? I am talking about those pictures/images of all living things which is created by Allah and have soul not about having power like God. You said in your argument 1 of having God’s power and defeating this argument by giving an example of cake. Pardon me but your argument 1 sounds funny for me.

Photography is forbidden, some said it haraam. We were ordered to obliterate it as mentioned in many hadith like in Sahih hadith Hazrat Ali bin Abu Talib r.a. narrated that Prophet :saw2: said: Do not leave an image/picture without obliterating it.

And I read somewhere that on the day of judgement Allahs will ask all those photographer/image-makers to put the soul in their photos/drawins (of all living things) if they wants to enter in paradise.

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Peace,

**Book **‘Military Expeditions led by the Prophet :saw2: (Al-Maghaazi)’ of Sahih Bukhari Hadith No. 338.
Narrated Ibn Abbas: Abu Talha, a companion of Allah’s Apostle :saw2: and one of those who fought at Badr together with Allah’s Apostle :saw2: told me that Allah’s Apostle :saw2: said. “Angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture” He meant the images of creatures that have souls.

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If the argument sounds funny, its only because it holds up a mirror to something equally hilarious.

The inconsistency is apparent right away. The Prophet said destroy pictures, and Allah will ask people to put a soul in drawings. In that case, the Prophet did well to warn us, I don’t want to be held up on my way to heaven. But why would the Prophet ask me to destroy all images? I can’t imagine Allah asking me to put a soul in a picture of a cake? (Yes I’m doing this to make you laugh.)

See, it’d be nice if the Hadith said images of creatures with souls. BUT IT DOESN’T. So we have to make an educated guess of what the Prophet meant. And this means using our God given common sense. And right now, my common sense is telling me oral anecdotes (Hadith) collected more than a century after (Bukhari) the death of the original source (Prophet), in an era before the internet and printing presses, before the refining of empirical evidence based analysis, no matter how well vetted, are likely to contain some incorrect renditions or attributions. If the word of God can be corrupted (Injil, Torah), then I certainly don’t trust the words of a man.

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I have many problems with this hadees.

  1. Allah will already know that there are pictures of animate objects in someone’s home so he will not send angels to that house for any reason.
  2. If Allah knows that there are pictures of animate objects in someone’s home and he orders an angel to go to that house they cannot refuse.
  3. What if some has to die and angel is sent to take the rooh of that person will angel return back or wait at the door ? What if this guy is so ill that he cannot go out , then he will live forever ? Right ? No ?

I know people in old days did not ask these many questions and will accept any hadees , no matter how much it is against common knowledge. That is why it was so easy in those days to come up with all sorts of hadees . It is not this easy anymore.

P.S I am not saying that you came up with this hadees , but someone did in the days when people will accept anything in the name of Holy Prophet(SAW) and religion.

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Sandals! I believe i’m looking at something funny rather than seeing a mirror. :wink: Honestly speaking, I can understand now why you said that you are not religious scholar and imam.

Destroying pics of human, animal and those things which have soul and/or also can leads to do shirk i.e. worshipping or believing in a pic that it can protect or harm us.

Brilliant!!! by asking what if this, what if that.

I believe the angels are angel of rahmat (peace) not one who take away the soul.

Brother! being a Muslim we at first place follow the Qur’an and Sunnah what both tell us. How to live a life in this word. If we at first place fear the wrath of Almighty Allah and live a life lived same as or similar to our Prophet Muhammad :saw: and to follow His :saw2: guidance then we never leave any picture inside our house. That mean there is no evasiveness for option 1, 2 and 3, and we would never have any problem with His :saw2s: saying. His :saw2: message will be loud and clear for us.

I hope now you know why peoples in old days did not ask these many questions :slight_smile:

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Sorry to say that I do not get the point of your post. If you are saying that I should submit to will of Allah(SWT). I already did by believing in him and by believing that Allah(SWT) does not want us to live a life of misery.
If you are saying that I should submit to ahdees that do not make sense to me then , that is not going to happen. I do submit to ahdees which make sense to me and are not against Quran and other ahadess and sunnah.
I do not submit to Ahadees which I think are made up , no matter what the source and sanad of that hadees says.
I also believe that by doing so does not make me non submitter to will of Allah.

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although the reasoning behinh your two arguments is correct but these two assumptions are not

photography is NOT an ATTEMPT to RECREATE

it is to capture a physical setting that is actually happening in a particular instance in time - photography differs from picture making at a number of levels. in photography you are capturing a 3d image in 2d. as Allah swt created me i will look at same in a photography except just a 2d version of it. picture making or painting is different - no matter how super a painter one may be he cannot paint me exactly the same way Allah swt did, and thus the painting will reflect so to speak an alterted version of me - this can be considered as altering or recreating Allah's creation

i hope this makes sense

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but for those who say photography is forbidden i.e. haram - their arguments are fundamentally flawed

as for fairy - you fill your arguments with i read this or heard that has no meaning or weight from the discussion/debate pov