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Never mind. We live our life by following Qur'an's teching and Hadith as we wants it to be in our life rather then living as ordered in Qur'an and hadith to live.
Re: photography haram?
Never mind. We live our life by following Qur'an's teching and Hadith as we wants it to be in our life rather then living as ordered in Qur'an and hadith to live.
Your understanding of what is ordered in Quran and hadees can be different than mine it does not mean that I am molding or twisting Quran and hadees to suit my understanding.
If I had that kind of twisted mind then why would I even believe in Quran and hadees in the first place ? My life would be even simpler and more pleasurable if I do not follow any code of conduct.
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and I believe what you said. :)
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I agree I said ‘I read this and I heard that’.
Why don’t you put up with reference where photography declared ‘Not Haram’, than I will put up mine with reference. 
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as a rule
all is permissible unless otherwise stated as haram
its is a question of what is haram rather than what is halal? - in islam all that is clearly haram is mentioned
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Peace All,
I’m quoting some hadiths from different books for your information.
It would be much better if you try to search some information related to the images whether it is permissible or not. There are many hadiths from different book in this regard where it clearly means ‘all those images of living things’.
May I ask you a question? Why your common sense accept that what is best in your inerest and reject that which are not?
Book ‘Sales and Trade’ of Sahih Bukhari Hadith No. 318,
Narrated Aisha r.a. : (mother of the faithful believers) I bought a cushion with pictures on it. When Allah’s Apostle 
saw it, he kept standing at the door and did not enter the house. I noticed the sign of disgust on his face, so I said, “O Allah’s Apostle! I repent to Allah and His Apostle . (Please let me know) what sin I have done.” Allah’s Apostle said, “What about this cushion?” I replied, “I bought it for you to sit and recline on.” Allah’s Apostle said, "The painters (i.e. owners) of these pictures will be punished on the Day of Resurrection. It will be said to them, ‘Put life in what you have created (i.e. painted).’ " The Prophet added, “The angels do not enter a house where there are pictures.”
See the first hadith where Hazrat Gabriel a.s. couldn’t fulfilled his promise due to the dog in a house which prevented him as well as he said if there is a picture too. Pictures of all those living things which have souls. Have you ever heard or read in any Islamic History Book that the death angel was prevented to enter a house by a dog and/or an image/picture? I think the answer is ‘No’, because I believe the Prophet ordered them to refrain from keeping a dog and/or images/pictures in your house and they followed it. That is why it was so easy for them to follow the orders as narrated in hadith.
We made our life difficult by ourself and that is why we are facing difficulties otherwise for me its very immaculate narration to follow it.
Book ‘Sales and Trade’ of Sahih Bukhari Hadith No. 428
Narrated Said bin Abu Al-Hasan: While I was with Ibn 'Abbas a man came and said, “O father of 'Abbas! My sustenance is from my manual profession and I make these pictures.” Ibn 'Abbas said, "I will tell you only what I heard from Allah’s Apostle . I heard him saying, ‘Whoever makes a picture will be punished by Allah till he puts life in it, and he will never be able to put life in it.’ " Hearing this, that man heaved a sigh and his face turned pale. Ibn 'Abbas said to him, “What a pity! If you insist on making pictures I advise you to make pictures of trees and any other unanimated objects.”
Book ‘The Book Pertaining to Clothes and Decoration (Kitab Al-Libas wal-Zinah)’ of Sahih Muslim Hadith No. 5246
A’isha r.a. reported that Gabriel a.s. made a promise with Allah’s Messenger to come at a definite hour; that hour came but he did not visit him. And there was in his hand (in the hand of Allah’s Apostle) a staff. He threw it from his hand and said: Never has Allah or His messengers (angels) ever broken their promise. Then he cast a glance (and by chance) found a puppy under his cot and said: 'A’isha r.a., when did this dog enter here? She said: BY Allah, I don’t know He then commanded and it was turned out. Then Gabriel came and Allah’s Messenger said to him: You promised me and I waited for you. but you did not come, whereupon he said: It was the dog in your house which prevented me (to come), for we (angels) do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture.
Book ‘General Subjects’ of Malik’s Muwatta Hadith No. 54.3.7
Malik related to me from Abu’n-Nasr that Ubaydullah ibn Abdullah ibn Utba ibn Masud went to visit Abu Talha al-Ansari when he was ill. He said, "I found Sahl ibn Hunayf with him. Abu Talha summoned a man and removed a rug which was under him. Sahl ibn Hunayf said to him, ‘Why did you remove it?’ He said, ‘Because there were pictures on it, and the Messenger of Allah said what you know about them.’ Sahl replied, ‘Didn’t the Messenger of Allah say, “except for markings on a garment?”’ (A rug was considered a garment). He said, ‘Yes, but it is more pleasing to myself.’ "
btw how come you say that angel cannot refuse. Neither i’m saying that angel can refuse. I just want to know on what basis you are saying it.
Re: photography haram?
as a rule
all is permissible unless otherwise stated as haram
its is a question of what is haram rather than what is halal? - in islam all that is clearly haram is mentioned
In your post #2, you said 'No' yet you are unable to provide atleast one authentic reference in your support. Brother! Your's 'No' also have no weight in this thread without details, explanation (with valid reference).
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read #19 and #20 for explanation
In your post #2, you said 'No' yet you are unable to provide atleast one authentic reference in your support. Brother! Your's 'No' also have no weight in this thread without details, explanation (with valid reference).
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read #19 and #20 for explanation
oky what about a valid reference?
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tomorrow lol
oky what about a valid reference?
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To the best of my knowledge, painting, drawing, taking pictures, making films and videos are not haram, unless the intention is wrong. Most if not all haram things were clearly mentioned in Quran and Sunnat, and are recognized and accepted by all major fiqhs.
Art and science have been a big part of Islam, Islamic history is filled with majzoobs, artists, and scientists.
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Peace Restless,
I would like to read more how its recognized and accepted by all major fighs. Please share/write. :)
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if photographs are forbidden - all of them should be forbidden from passport photos to portraits on the wall … from digital photos to video clips …
generally speaking there is a major difference of opinion amongst modern islamic scholars on photographs/photography/movie/movie making etc.
in my opinion the reasoning giving by scholars who declare that photographs/photography is forbidden is very weak and reflect lack of knowledge of the subject
here is some discussion/explanation of both sides of the argument
http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?ID=9334
In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,
There are separate issues relating to picture-making (taswir), hence it would be good to understand each issue separately and the Shariah ruling on it:
1) Drawing/Painting Pictures of Humans and Animals
As it is common knowledge, there are countless Hadiths narrated from the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) that strictly prohibit painting pictures of animate objects, for example:
Sayyiduna Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) forbade the keeping of pictures at home and making them." (Sunan Tirmidhi, no: 1749)
Sayyiduna Abu Talha (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Angels (of mercy) do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, no: 5609)
Due to these and many other similar narrations, most classical scholars are of the opinion that painting and drawing pictures of humans and animals is unlawful and sinful. They state that ‘picture-making’ (taswir) of human or animal life has been explicitly forbidden by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) and as such it will be sinful. Only Imam Malik (Allah have mercy on him) is reported to have differed with this position of general prohibition.
In one of his narrations, Sayyiduna Imam Malik (Allah have mercy on him), contrary to the other three Imams and most other Mujtahids, is reported to have stated that only those pictures are unlawful that are three-dimensional and have a body to them, such as statues and sculptures. A picture that does not have a body or shadow to it will not be unlawful although somewhat disliked, such as drawing a picture on a paper, cloth or on any other object. This is one of two positions narrated from Imam Malik, with his other position being similar to that of the vast majority of classical scholars.
The position of the vast majority of classical scholars is based on the fact that there is no distinction in the various Hadiths between a tangible and intangible picture. The Hadith indicating the permissibility of intangible and non-solid pictures refers to pictures of other than humans and animals. (See: al-Mugni, 7/7 & Takmila Fath al-Mulhim, 4/155)
Based on this, the reliable and mainstream opinion of the classical jurists is that picture-making is unlawful, whether by painting a picture on an object or making a sculpture. This is the position held by the three main Sunni Schools of Islamic law (i.e. Hanafi, Shafi’i & Hanbali) and also one of two positions related from Imam Malik (Allah have mercy on him). It would be better if one referred to a Maliki Scholar to determine the relied upon (mufta bihi) position of that School. As such, one should avoid drawing/ painting pictures of humans and animals.
2) Photography
In view of the above-mentioned one position of Imam Malik, there is no question with regard to the permissibility of taking photographs, for according to that position, painting pictures of human or animal life on a paper or fabric is allowed, hence camera pictures would hold the same ruling.
However, in view of the mainstream and majority position of classical scholars, the question arises as to whether photos of humans and animals fall under the type of picture-making prohibited by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) in numerous Hadiths. Camera photos were not in existence when classical scholars were discussing the issue of picture-making, hence one will not find an express ruling regarding photography in their works. As such, it was left to contemporary scholars to determine whether photos held the same ruling as that of painting and drawing pictures.
Contemporary scholars have differed on this issue:
a) The position of the overwhelming majority of Indo-Pak and some Arab scholars is that photographs of human or animal life are not permissible for the very same reasons that paintings of these are not permissible.
They state that the ruling on picture-making does not change by changing the tool with which the picture is produced. Whether an image is produced by painting it or using a camera, as long as it is an image of a human or animal, it will remain unlawful (haram).This is the position of Shaykh Mufti Taqi Usmani and most of my other teachers. It is, without doubt, the more precautious and arguably stronger opinion.
b) The second position on the issue, held by most Arab Scholars (from all four Madhabs) and some from the Indian Subcontinent, is that there is a difference between photos and the prohibited picture-making (taswir).
Shaykh Muhammad Bakhit al-Muti’i of Egypt, a 2oth Century scholar known for his knowledge and piety, wrote a whole treatise titled al-Jawab al-Shafi fi Ibahat Surat al-Photography in support of this view of permissibility.
His basic understanding is that the reason behind the prohibition of painting pictures (in the words of the Hadith) is challenging Allah in His Creating of living creatures. In camera photos, however, one does not produce an image through one’s own imagination; hence one is not challenging the Creating of Allah as such. It is merely a reflection of a living being already created by Allah Most High.
These are the two positions of contemporary scholars on the issue. There are great scholars of knowledge, wisdom and piety on both sides of the fence; hence, it would be wrong to criticize anyone for following any one of these positions.
It is a matter of genuine and valid difference of opinion. It is not an issue where one may condemn another, and one must respect others’ right to follow their conscience.
As you have asked about my personal stance, firstly I am by no means in a position of having a ‘personal’ opinion as such. I follow my teachers and learn from them. I have teachers in the UK and the Subcontinent who prohibit photos, but I also have teachers in the Arab world permitting them.
The position which I follow is that of my teachers who prohibit taking photos, for that is a more precautious and safe position. However, I have complete respect for the position (and practice) of those who permit taking photos.
As such, my practice is that I do not willingly pose for a photo unless there is a genuine need like for a passport or something similar. If I am asked, I politely refuse. At the same time, if someone is taking photos and I am also in attendance going about my own business, I do not go out of my way to prevent him taking my photo. Thus, if you did come across a photo of mine, it is probably because I may have been present in a place where photos were being taken. The recent photo of mine you have referred to was taken in the same context. I had knowledge that photos were being taken and that I may appear in one, but I did not willingly pose for a photo. I hope that makes sense!
3) Live Broadcasting
Shaykh Mufti Taqi Usmani (may Allah preserve him) and many other scholars have declared that live broadcastings of images do not fall within the ambit of picture-making (taswir). A picture is something that is permanent and static, whilst the image broadcasted live is not permanent hence cannot be termed a picture. A live broadcast is in reality a reflection of the actual image, similar to seeing an image in a mirror.
Therefore, if an image of a human or animal is broadcasted live, then this does not fall into the unlawful picture-making. It will be permitted to broadcast something live or view a live programme, provided the content of the programme is lawful (halal). (Taqrir Tirmidhi, 2/351)
4) Video Recording
According to Shaykh Taqi Usmani, that which is recorded in a videotape or DVD is also not considered a picture. In a videotape, the particles of an image are gathered and then re-opened in the same order to view the image. This is the reason why it is not possible to see the picture in the rail of the tape without playing it. (ibid)
Therefore, if a permitted and Halal event, such as a lecture of a scholar, is played and viewed on a videotape or DVD, it will be permitted, Insha Allah.
Note that the above discussion does not in any way relate to watching Television. Watching TV and keeping it at home is another matter altogether, for which a separate answer is needed. The many harms and evils of keeping a TV at home are known to all. This answer only relates to the permissibility of viewing a Halal image through a live broadcast or a videotape/DVD.
Shaykh Taqi Usmani (may Allah preserve him) sums this up in one of his Fatawa:
"The images appearing on live programs or recorded programs on television are not the pictures in the strict sense envisaged in the Ahadith of the Holy Prophet (Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam) unless they are printed in a durable form on paper or on any other object. But the basic reason why Muslims are advised not to keep TV sets in their homes is that most of the programs broadcast on the TV channels contain impermissible elements." (Taken from the al-Balagh website, Q & A: Video Chips)
And Allah knows best
Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari
Darul Iftaa, Leicester, UK
www.daruliftaa.com
Re: photography haram?
Re: photography haram?
at the end of the day - all comes down to
Innamal A'maalo binniyyaat
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Peace Restless,
I would like to read more how its recognized and accepted by all major fighs. Please share/write. :)
Peace KamiKaze
My good Sir, I know by heart, drawing humans and animals is Not haram. I am one hundred percent sure about it.
But if you draw a picture with the intention of worshipping it, then it's forbidden.
You can also draw pictures of holy figuers, if disrespect is not your intent.
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If photographs, paintings and idols are really prohibited because God thought that'd be usurping his powers, then shouldn't cattle farming & fisheries be prohibited as well?
It is simply not possible for any God to be insecure about humand being usurping divinity!
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Nice to read. Will post in a day or two.
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Photography is haram and so are pictures, specially when they r images of people & living things.
Carrying these pictures in pocket or wallet is also haram. Please throw away the currency Rupee bills you carry, except the ones which does not have Quaid Azam's pictures on them, if you r really true to your faith.
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^ I will take them, if they don't want them.