If you steal from a thief what he had stolen, are you also a thief? What if you stole it to either teach him a lesson, or to return the good to the original owner?
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its perfectly legit.........
if u give it back to the owner or charity it...........
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its perfectly legit......... .
is that your opinion or you are mentioning general social standards on ethics?
No modern day legal system approves of mob justice or justice carried out by individuals.
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Yes, you are a thief. What you are doing is stealing & that is wrong no matter you are doing it for good reasons. If you are doing it for teaching that person a lesson then do it through a proper channel I mean institutions are there for this purpose.
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If you steal from a thief what he had stolen, are you also a thief? What if you stole it to either teach him a lesson, or to return the good to the original owner?
instead, I will inform the Original Owner about the thief and will help the owner to get it back by some other way. No I will never steal from the thief!
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i guess not everyone is fit to implement justice, or even decide what is just. in the heat of the moment a lot of things may seem just only to not be the case up on closer examination. but if someone genuinely steals an item, taking it away from the person wouldn't be stealing from him or her, but if not returned to the orginal owner, it does count as stealing.
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is that your opinion or you are mentioning general social standards on ethics?
No modern day legal system approves of mob justice or justice carried out by individuals.
you didn't talk about the 'modern day legal system'.............. u just throwing it in later.....
if the legal system works........it would automatically take care of the problem.......ur assertion about ''teaching him a lesson'' means that legal system isn't working..........
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Queer can we implement this logic in other crimes also or just theft? Like murder maybe?
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you didn't talk about the 'modern day legal system'.............. u just throwing it in later.....
if the legal system works........it would automatically take care of the problem.......ur assertion about ''teaching him a lesson'' means that legal system isn't working..........
Ignore my 'modern day legal system' note. I dont know why I threw that in. I was just asking that if the opinion was personal of you were refering to general ethical standards. And I was not criticizing, just wanted to know
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first make up your mind about whether there is a legal system in place......and how efficient.....
because in absence of a legal system.....u can't just sit on your ass all day and do nothing......because that could be termed as 'mob justice'..........
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Queer can we implement this logic in other crimes also or just theft? Like murder maybe?
well.. murder is different from theft in that the person doesn't just steal a life, he/she destroys it. there is no returning it, no matter what. so inherently, i dont think there can be a truly just way of dealing with a murder once it has happened. unless one believes in an afterlife etc.
in some systems, emphasis is on the perp compensating the victim's family, in others it is on making sure the perp is punished and never repeats the offense.
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Dude, read my question again. There is presumed legal system in place but what if someone takes justice in his or her own hands with the logic to return the good to owner or to teach thief a lesson.
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if the system is in place........and its working.........then the 'legal recourse' should be the first option......
if its not working.......and not delivering ............ u can't sit on ur ass.......got to do something.....individually or at a community level or something..........
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mm are you asking if its okay for people outside the judicial system to enforce some form of justice? i think it would be wrong, personal ideas of justice vary a LOT. unless the legal system is not doing its job, i'd stay away from supporting any kind of vigilantes.
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this calls for a lawsuit.
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this calls for a lawsuit.
kis designer ka suit?? bontu kamzi or SHY??
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Part of being a member of a civil society is the concept of a social contract. Each individual gives up certain of their "natural" rights to the government/administration so that the rights that remain are equally applicable and protected for all.
Meaning, I give up my right to seek personal justice against someone who has wronged me, and allow the police and legal system to mete out justice on my behalf.
This goes back to the idea that queer raised - each individual defines justice differently and would apply it differently. Being part of this social contract is an equalizer for everyone.
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^ She meant lawnsuit...
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if the system is in place........and its working.........then the 'legal recourse' should be the first option......
if its not working.......and not delivering ............ u can't sit on ur ass.......got to do something.....individually or at a community level or something..........
mm are you asking if its okay for people outside the judicial system to enforce some form of justice? i think it would be wrong, personal ideas of justice vary a LOT. unless the legal system is not doing its job, i'd stay away from supporting any kind of vigilantes.
The ethics of the situation only comes in place when some form of system is already in place. If we were living in a lawless society or in caves, off course then everyone could and would come up with their own version of justice and this question would not be a valid one.
Again, I was not talking about the legality of the act, I was talking about the ethics.
For example, do you think that Robin Hood was a kind of person our kids can learn from, if we read that story to them?
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I only steal mangoes 