Philosophy 101

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An act that violates social contract is not always unethical, is it? Euthanasia is not allowed in Michigan but allowed in Washington. If I am a doctor and I put an old and suffering patient to sleep in Michigan, is it still ethical? Maybe for some people, not for the others. So my question is not if we are obligated to follow the social contract, as we all know that answer. My question is if above scenario seems ethical or not by your standards.

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The social contract is not specifically or strictly limited as a legal concept of governance, it's a societal one. Where more than two people co-exist and create standards of behaviour, it makes actions ethical or unethical based on the mutual agreement of the people.

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Saying that ethics is part of some mutual agreement is saying that if majority of society thinks its ethical then I also think its ethical. Isn't it?

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^ Morality is not in all cases absolute. Cultural norms and values, and the idea of wrong and right does change with time.

Let's talk about slavery - that was permitted once, but not anymore. Even in our Prophet's time, he had slaves - he chose to free them. Was it wrong, or was a it social norm that gained and then lost acceptance?

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Before I get deep into your second para, let me ask you this. Would you have a different standard of morality for slavery (than what you have right now) if you were living in the times of Prophet Mohammed :saw2:? just a simple yes or no

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Can't be answered with a yes or no, because of the very change in social norms. I can't answer for my acceptance of behaviour in prior times, when I'm informed with present day norms.

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Are you saying that our personal judgments are clouded by the society norms (maybe I am reading you wrong)? I am not sure about that. If it was the case then norms and personal stance would never clash .. but we know that they do, that is why norms keep changing over the period of time cause someone or few people started raising their voices against that norm.

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Of course they are. That doesn't necesitate that everyone agrees with the norms all of the time. People may disagree with those norms and challenge those norms to change it, or they may be convinced that the norms were right and their personal judgement was wrong.

The point being, both social norms and personal values are changeable, and both can result in the change of the other.

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i do not think there is any social contract.

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That is so against conventional religious wisdom :D

what if we replace the word from contract to obligation. They are the same but you cannot deny that there isnt any social obligation.