Re: Peshawar attack scares the hell out of the likes of Hafiz Saeed, Musharraf
Not sure what your problem is - that I mentioned the lies that Zaid Hamid & Musharraf are spewing or that I posted a rebuttal for those.
Pls stop this sanctimonious farce since a few other threads discussing Zaid Hamid and Musharraf's comments blaming India for the Peshawar tragedy have already been posted and are being discussed.
Re: Peshawar attack scares the hell out of the likes of Hafiz Saeed, Musharraf
I don't have doubts about good Indian, but Arli you disappointed me here by criticising Southie who had a point to give Pakistanis a chance to mourn. I take it rubbing salt on our wounds. While our people are busy naming and shaming those who see Indian hand in this incident, Indians are blaming us for terrorism and that too on wide guesses. Remember your earlier posts on this incident with reference to Ibrahim Dawood. If this remains the case, I'll definitely call those Pakistanis delusional who are happy and thankful to Indian for showing such gesture of solidarity.
I am confused thinking as to what has happened to the wit and wisdom of Sindhis...
Bro,I referred to Mr.Dawood in the other thread just because of one reason.That is he is also a petal of the same flower called terrorism.Now there are many who are in denial about him.The same amount of denial was in place for O.B.L aswell. Let us wait and watch.
Bro,please go through my post again.A few Indians means not all Indians.If there is a jihadi from Karachi does not mean all Karachites are terrorists.
Re: Peshawar attack scares the hell out of the likes of Hafiz Saeed, Musharraf
which umeed you are talking about. Your founding leaders umeed that Pakistan will not survive few moths and their blockade of funds to paralyze our country in its infancy?
And it was the founding father of India who had prompted the then Indian leaders to hand over Pakistan the promised 50 Lakhs. :)
Re: Peshawar attack scares the hell out of the likes of Hafiz Saeed, Musharraf
Oh, O. Southie bhai is really angry now.
He is rarely angry unless he is really annoyed.
Please don’t be so harsh, bhai.
And we do like Arli.
And I am sorry for my harsh words too.
It’s the old love/hate dynamic.
Re: Peshawar attack scares the hell out of the likes of Hafiz Saeed, Musharraf
I am confused thinking as to what has happened to the wit and wisdom of Sindhis...
Bro,I referred to Mr.Dawood in the other thread just because of one reason.That is he is also a petal of the same flower called terrorism.Now there are many who are in denial about him.The same amount of denial was in place for O.B.L aswell. Let us wait and watch.
Bro,please go through my post again.A few Indians means not all Indians.If there is a jihadi from Karachi does not mean all Karachites are terrorists.
Its not about Sindhi or non-Sindhi. Its about humanity. When you offer condolence with blames then don't expect any amiable behavior from a Pakistani.
Re: Peshawar attack scares the hell out of the likes of Hafiz Saeed, Musharraf
Not sure what your problem is - that I mentioned the lies that Zaid Hamid & Musharraf are spewing or that I posted a rebuttal for those.
Pls stop this sanctimonious farce since a few other threads discussing Zaid Hamid and Musharraf's comments blaming India for the Peshawar tragedy have already been posted and are being discussed.
You have missed the point. You can call my post sanctimonious farce or worse. Don't bother me none. I call it as I see it. For now, my response to you will be a fine point.
Re: Peshawar attack scares the hell out of the likes of Hafiz Saeed, Musharraf
Its not about Sindhi or non-Sindhi. Its about humanity. When you offer condolence with blames then don't expect any amiable behavior from a Pakistani.
o you want to
Bro,it is same everywhere.Why do you want to criticize Indians selectively?
You missed the point mere Bhai. There is no enmity.
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o you want to
Bro,it is same everywhere.Why do you want to criticize Indians selectively?
You missed the point mere Bhai. There is no enmity.
When Indian are throwing their condolence as an act of generosity in our faces (jata jata kar) and when our own people are trying to do away with the thought that there was an external involvement like India,US, etc, throwing such tantrums like Dawood Ibrahim is in your country and bla bla will lead to this behavior.
Why do you Indian are always ready to cry for ISI , forgetting what RAW is upto. You Indian are always ready to give benefit of doubt to RAW, RSS and Modi and point fingers at ISI, Pakistan army and Pakistan government. We haven't forgotten your attitude in Sialkot this year and the kind of hatred that was shown by your media. Your parties come to rule after spewing venom against our country and still you have problem with our public.
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There are extremists in all countries and even in west there will be those who make similar tweets. All Indians I know and pages I have visited have shown genuine support. on twitter the main trend is #indiawithpak](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=indiawithpak) istan. Most people are posting heart warming messages, and pictures and offers to donate blood. The other tweeters are not having trending tweets. Nationwide silences and candlelight vigils also show this. More than from other countries like china or in middle east. The people who make those negative tweets are not in majority. I know there are lot of unresolved issues between India and Pakistan but at least on this issue there is genuine solidarity. Neither I think there is need to compare past tragedies like responses to 26/11 or bring in politics when condemning. There are people like jei or rss type people who will continue to blame the other side but that does not make them a majority.
I’ve also replied to people who rather than just grieving and offering condolences are listening to conspiracy theories and thinking India is the cause. Instead I try to show them all the outpouring of support. People with extreme views are often brainwashed by media and never see the positives of the country they have a one sides view of
There will be a time later when it can be worked out where to go from here.
We know media will point fingers that’s what they are good for and this happens on both sides.
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most indians think pakistan will now understand the pain and frustration they felt about mumbai. but this is a complex dance, with a lot of intertwined historical prejudices and what ifs. i dont have much hope honestly for mutual respect and seeing each other's points of view with all the conspiracy theories. we need a big frikking fence, and no contact except trade for the next 100 years.
Re: Peshawar attack scares the hell out of the likes of Hafiz Saeed, Musharraf
most indians think pakistan will now understand the pain and frustration they felt about mumbai. but this is a complex dance, with a lot of intertwined historical prejudices and what ifs. i dont have much hope honestly for mutual respect and seeing each other's points of view with all the conspiracy theories. we need a big frikking fence, and no contact except trade for the next 100 years.
Re: Peshawar attack scares the hell out of the likes of Hafiz Saeed, Musharraf
Actually no. Indian Facebook pages are filled with scoring points on this occasion. More of the same being attempted here.
Such sentiments don't come from a vacuum. As the articles states - the bodies of the children have barely gone cold.
So ignore these accusations. There is no need for an Indian to highlight them here. Back home, these accusations are being highlighted and accompanied with scathing attacks on the country - using a derogatory name for the country.
Those doing so think they have the moral high ground.
So give it a rest. Stop playing politics and trying to score a point. Let the people grieve. There will be a time for you to gloat.
Just be patient.
I don't agree with the blame game happening now or the point scoring or gloating. I don't know how right wing your family and friends are but please don't hesitate generalise for all Indians. I have not come across such sentiments from my close friends or the social media sites I visit. I found it heartening that the second most popular trend was Indiawithpak istan. Then after the lakhvi bail some Pakistanis start the trend Pakistan with India no to lakhvi bail. I've never seen that before in such a way. Yes there are haters on both sides and it of hater pages in both sides. Not the majority though.
Why should there be gloating at a later stage ? how about no gloating at all and thinking what is better for region
I talked with my female friend in peshawar who knew 3 families who were affected and we could discuss this without blaming each other's countries, bringing up conspiracy theories.
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I admire your sentiments and your sincerity. You have not been one to throw salt in the wound and “advise” Pakistanis what to do. Or how to fix the situation. Or remind them of presence of A B or C and why said A B or C has not been caught.
For you know this is NOT the time to have such discussions. I did scan PA. The Pakistanis here have been having such discussions. And don’t need Indians to “advise” them.
You haven’t done it. But almost all others is this thread - except q I think, have.
Now for ur comment ALL Indians I know have been supportive, that may be true. But from my limited data set away from this forum, 3 posts were almost identical - expressing sorrow. AND throwing I told you say type advise across across he border. And 30 likes coupled with about 15 supportive comments show the data to reflect poorly on their ability to empathize.
There was a disdain that came through. And IMHO this is not the time for that.
You have shown empathy. No patronizing unsolicited advice. The others have given abundance of the latter.
Re: Peshawar attack scares the hell out of the likes of Hafiz Saeed, Musharraf
I am a bit concerned ... whether India were involved or not ... somebody high up in Pakistani elite must think they were ... why else the release of Saeed?
The children belonged to the army first and second to the Pakistani public and Musharraf and Hamid are army people ... surely they will be interested in finding the instigators of this more than anyone ... I find it odd that they finger out India ... if in fact the problem lies elsewhere they will be more than eager to do it properly ... I prefer to keep India out of this matter ... what could have caused them to be so presumptuous? If that is what they were doing ...