Re: Peace overture: PTI caravan for Waziristan
The supporters of Taliban are animals like Taliban . After attack on Malala ,polio worker and Basheer Billor , I support drone attacks . America should continue the search of these killers . Any one who support Taliban ,he is too an animal .
Re: Peace overture: PTI caravan for Waziristan
The supporters of Taliban are animals like Taliban . After attack on Malala ,polio worker and Basheer Billor , I support drone attacks . America should continue the search of these killers . Any one who support Taliban ,he is too an animal .
Agreed. AP you should open a thread on this topic. Unless all Pakistanis stand against these animals, women, children, and innocent people of Pakistan will continue to be killed by these illegitimate sons of *****e$.
Re: Peace overture: PTI caravan for Waziristan
The supporters of Taliban are animals like Taliban . After attack on Malala ,polio worker and Basheer Billor , I support drone attacks . America should continue the search of these killers . Any one who support Taliban ,he is too an animal .
No matter how much I hate TTP mercenaries, I still can't support drones because of collateral damage, civilian casualties.
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No matter how much I hate TTP mercenaries, I still can't support drones because of collateral damage, civilian casualties.
It is not like conventional bomb or missile. The targeted person is watched for many days through surveillance, after conformation, informing to army, drones come to them only. The target of drones are 100% accurate, there is no collateral damage. It is more like a target killings like mqm and others are doing in Karachi. mqm and others have killed 1000 times more in target killings as compared to drones killing TTP and other suicide bombers.
Had innocent persons killed, paki maadir pidar aazad media have made hue and cry on all commercial tv channels.
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I think you should read what an ex drone operator from US army had to say about drones.
Remember, two wrongs NEVER make one right. 
Unfortunately Pak media does not even have access to areas where drones are being fired. It needs awareness.
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Two wrongs do not make a right, we shouldn't support drones and on the other side should vehemently oppose suicide attacks too. Both are wrong.
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We are using every thing of US , Our bosses are confirmed obedient servant of US since last sixty years . What bad in using their drones . Our leaders visit US even they were unclothed there ,
Your future Prime minister is in front of You ! Imran
Give him some chanda ! He wanted to be more rich
Re: Peace overture: PTI caravan for Waziristan
^ Why don't you tell your boss to teach him how to rob the country and stash the loot away in Switzerland? :@:
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^ Why don't you tell your boss to teach him how to rob the country and stash the loot away in Switzerland? :@:
What I can say the looters , Switzerland or England ,
You tell your looter to not to bring our Canda , Sadqa , Fitra , Zakat , Khairat and charm e Qurbani money for sons of Jamima and daughter of Sita White .
Re: Peace overture: PTI caravan for Waziristan
So you think that “sons of Jamima” are dependent on “charm e Qurbani money”??? 
Re: Peace overture: PTI caravan for Waziristan
The supporters of Taliban are animals like Taliban . After attack on Malala ,polio worker and Basheer Billor , I support drone attacks . America should continue the search of these killers . Any one who support Taliban ,he is too an animal .
Agreed. AP you should open a thread on this topic. Unless all Pakistanis stand against these animals, women, children, and innocent people of Pakistan will continue to be killed by these illegitimate sons of *****e$.
these people practiced Islam, all the areas hypocrites do not acknowledge, during the formation of pakistan (they won azadkashmir before pk had an army) and they practiced islam in the late 70's throughout 80's, so i have no reason to doubt the legitimaticy of the nikahs of their parents, or of their births
however the matter is not so clearcut for others. do you two in your swearing and liking of these swears have any proof for the legitimacy of the nikahs of your births? as far as i see you come from a hypocritical place which uses the courage of these men at will using Gods name, the religion of and thus validity of the nikah of the birth of yous or of these pak representatives in this situation are therefore unknown. fact
if you want to pretend to be upstanding members of community make ye peace between yourselfs and the ttp!
Re: Peace overture: PTI caravan for Waziristan
It is not like conventional bomb or missile. The targeted person is watched for many days through surveillance, after conformation, informing to army, drones come to them only. The target of drones are 100% accurate, there is no collateral damage. It is more like a target killings like mqm and others are doing in Karachi. mqm and others have killed 1000 times more in target killings as compared to drones killing TTP and other suicide bombers.
Had innocent persons killed, paki maadir pidar aazad media have made hue and cry on all commercial tv channels.
So you are drone operator ? if you lose your own kids in drone attack then I'll ask from you that will you support drone attack or not !
cheers
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Exactly :k:
ppl only watch one side of drone attack but other !!!
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You must be smoking the good stuff to say all this.
Most of the political idiots support drone attacks and military action, if nothing else, then to oppose PTI’s stance. Some folks here have nothing better to do than bring Imran’s family into every discussion. Dont they have to go to Benazir’s tomb or something tomorrow?
Heres a reminder of what drones are to the americans, and what they do to the Pakistanis. Unless one doesnt consider the FATA residents as Pakistanis, I dont know how any sane minded person can support drone attacks. The most hilarious part is where drone strikes are referred to as 100% accurate. mashaAllah.
By George Monbiot
Mere words cannot match the depths of your sorrow, nor can they heal your wounded hearts … these tragedies must end. And to end them, we must change — every parent can connect with what US President Barack Obama said about the murder of 20 children in Newtown, Connecticut. There can scarcely be a person on earth with access to the media who is untouched by the grief of the people of that town.
It must follow that what applies to the children murdered there by a deranged young man also applies to the children murdered in Pakistan by a sombre American president. These children are just as important, just as real, just as deserving of the world’s concern. Yet there are no presidential speeches or presidential tears for them, no pictures on the front pages of the world’s newspapers, no interviews with grieving relatives, no minute analysis of what happened and why.
If the victims of Obama’s drone strikes are mentioned by the state at all, they are discussed in terms which suggest that they are less than human. The people who operate the drones, Rolling Stone magazine reports, describe their casualties as “bug splats”, “since viewing the body through a grainy-green video image gives the sense of an insect being crushed”. Or they are reduced to vegetation: Justifying the drone war, Obama’s counterterrorism adviser Bruce Riedel explained that “you’ve got to mow the lawn all the time. The minute you stop mowing, the grass is going to grow back”.
Like George W. Bush’s government in Iraq, Obama’s administration neither documents nor acknowledges the civilian casualties of the CIA’s drone strikes in northwest Pakistan. But a report by the law schools at Stanford and New York universities suggests that during the first three years of his time in office, the 259 strikes for which he is ultimately responsible killed between 297 and 569 civilians, of whom at least 64 were children.
These are figures extracted from credible reports: There may be more which have not been fully documented.
The wider effects on the children of the region have been devastating. Many have been withdrawn from school because of fears that large gatherings of any kind are being targeted. There have been several strikes on schools since Bush launched the drone programme that Obama has expanded so enthusiastically:** one of Bush’s blunders killed 69 children.**
Trauma
The study reports that children scream in terror when they hear the sound of a drone. A local psychologist says that their fear and the horrors they witness is causing permanent mental scarring. Children wounded in drone attacks say they are too traumatised to go back to school and have abandoned hopes of the careers they might have had. Their dreams as well as their bodies have been broken.
Obama does not kill children deliberately. But their deaths are an inevitable outcome of the way his drones are deployed. We don’t know what emotional effect these deaths might have on him, as neither he nor his officials will discuss the matter: Almost everything to do with the CIA’s extrajudicial killings in Pakistan is kept secret. But you get the impression that no one in the administration is losing much sleep over it.
Blind eye
Two days before the murders in Newtown, Obama’s press secretary was asked about women and children being killed by drones in Yemen and Pakistan. He refused to answer, on the grounds that such matters are “classified”. Instead, he directed the journalist to a speech by John Brennan, Obama’s counter-terrorism assistant.
Brennan insists that “Al Qaida’s killing of innocents, mostly Muslim men, women and children, has badly tarnished its appeal and image in the eyes of Muslims”.
He appears unable to see that the drone war has done the same for the US. To Brennan the people of north-west Pakistan are neither insects nor grass: his targets are a “cancerous tumour”, the rest of society “the tissue around it”. Beware of anyone who describes a human being as something other than a human being.
Yes, he conceded, there is occasionally a little “collateral damage”, but the US takes “extraordinary care [to] ensure precision and avoid the loss of innocent life”. It will act only if there’s “an actual ongoing threat” to American lives. This is cock and bull with bells on.
The ‘signature strike’ doctrine developed under Obama, which has no discernible basis in law, merely looks for patterns. A pattern could consist of a party of unknown men carrying guns (which scarcely distinguishes them from the rest of the male population of north-west Pakistan), or a group of unknown people who look as if they might be plotting something.
This is how wedding and funeral parties get wiped out; this is why 40 elders discussing royalties from a chromite mine were blown up in March last year. It is one of the reasons why children continue to be killed.
Obama has scarcely mentioned the drone programme and has said nothing about its killing of children. The only statement I can find is a brief and vague response during a video conference last January. The killings have been left to others to justify. In October the Democratic cheerleader Joe Klein claimed on MSNBC that “the bottom line in the end is whose four-year-old gets killed? What we’re doing is limiting the possibility that four-year-olds here will get killed by indiscriminate acts of terror”. As the estimable Glenn Greenwald has pointed out, killing four-year-olds is what terrorists do. It doesn’t prevent retaliatory murders, it encourages them, as grief and revenge are often accomplices.
Most of the world’s media, which has rightly commemorated the children of Newtown, either ignores Obama’s murders or accepts the official version that all those killed are “militants”. The children of north-west Pakistan, it seems, are not like our children. They have no names, no pictures, no memorials of candles and flowers and teddy bears. They belong to the other: to the non-human world of bugs and grass and tissue.
“Are we,” Obama asked on Sunday [16DEC], “prepared to say that such violence visited on our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom?” It’s a valid question. He should apply it to the violence he is visiting on the children of Pakistan.
— Guardian News & Media Ltd
Re: Peace overture: PTI caravan for Waziristan
It is not like conventional bomb or missile. The targeted person is watched for many days through surveillance, after conformation, informing to army, drones come to them only. The target of drones are 100% accurate, there is no collateral damage. It is more like a target killings like mqm and others are doing in Karachi. mqm and others have killed 1000 times more in target killings as compared to drones killing TTP and other suicide bombers.
Had innocent persons killed, paki maadir pidar aazad media have made hue and cry on all commercial tv channels.
This statement is as true as saying that zardari has never looted the nation. If you believe that you can believe anything.
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sachaydino, ur comments r as despicable as some of the comments of the Taliban sympathizers here.......use ur head before commenting........collateral damage and loss of human life is a well established fact........besides just as Uzbek and Tajik savages and Arab criminals r in our country illegally so r the American drones.........
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100% accurate? yes the they are 100% accurate in terms of hitting the GPS mounted on the target vehicle/house but who dies with that drone is not 100% accurate, you’ve got to be an ostrich if you believe drones have been killing only terrorists.
Pasha sahib I had heard that when a man grows his maturity and sanity grows manifold but unfortunately you show a very poor example of that, you have consistently been showing slowing down growth as reflected in your posts. This is post is what you are posting when discussing drones, very disappointing for a mature person.
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**Another March to Waziristan is ready .
Now the situation is opposit
You have to go with Pakistan to finish , The Zalman , The mufsadeen killer terrorists ,who killed 50,000 Pakistanis in Bomb blasts , Suicide bombing and target killing .
Are you ready ?**
Re: Peace overture: PTI caravan for Waziristan
So you are drone operator ? if you lose your own kids in drone attack then I'll ask from you that will you support drone attack or not !
cheers
Yeah, I hope carpet bombing on these animals which is killing tons of people daily now satify your stupidity now. Good luck with that killings because it is "halal" now.
Sure. You wanted carpet bombings by Pak army you got it. Don't cry now that tons of really innocent people killed or will be killed by own army which will really be then collateral damage eh! ab tablay bajao Pakistan army ke.
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This statement is as true as saying that zardari has never looted the nation. If you believe that you can believe anything.
??? Care to explain what do you want to say here?