PARENTS - THE ENEMIES OF THEIR DAUGHTERS

Safali

speak for yourself and those who are like you<<

Follow your own advice before opening your big mouth. Stats for muslims countries would be worse but they are not avialable....cover your women like I said before they need to cover to protect themselves from likes of you. Nobody expects any decency from people who call women hookers at the drop of hat.

P.S. I don't have time to read the URL provided by you.....in your own country you kill women who come forward or jail them therefore nobody complains..everything is hidden, men can do whatever they want.

Rani, please do not reply to me while you are drunk and under the influence of alcohol(you do drink alcohol don't you?), because then you may able to talk sensibly. I apologize, if my assumption is incorrect.

In the USA and the west, the woman is treated like a sex object and nothing more. Pictures of naked/semi-naked women are to be found everywhere. Almost every advertisement uses this technique to good effect. How a woman projects her body in a sexual way, has great influence on being selected for a job. According to the FBI's 1997 Uniform Crime Report, median time served for rape was 3 years (the culprit probably can't stop himself laughing. What a joke!). Everyday 48 women are raped by persons who have been caught, convicted, and subsequently released on probation or parole.

You see these laws, do not bring women any justice, but they are just a delusion, to satisfy the lower whims & desires of these men. Since these lawmakers do not know when, they themselves might turn out to be the culprits or one of their family members(remember the sexual harrasment case against Bill Clinton).

You said:"Men I know consider person like you weak, immoral idiot, women abuser and a pimp (only stating other men's opinion)".
You see, I can fully understand why they would think that of me, since from the facts that have been stated above, it's seems as though, these men do not think with their heads but with that which is between their legs.

Well, in Saudia, this henious crime against women, is taken very seriously, since the penalty for a rapist is nothing less than death. So much for your protection of women.


So the unbeliever was left dumbfounded, his argument was overthrown, silenced, struck dumb and falsehood was rendered futile as is alway the case.

Rani said:

Nobody expects any decency from people who call women hookers at the drop of hat.<<

Why would you be angry if somebody was to call you a hooker. From the way you made the above statement it clearly shows that you think very lowly of prostiutes and consider them indecent (which they are). This is very hypocritical of you and clearly a contradiction to your ideology of 'humanism'. Also you stated earlier:

To me being a good person (don't want to go in lengthy explanations) is more important then following any particular religion blindly. I believe that all people are born equal believers and non-believer, men and women, God loves them all and everybody is responsible for their morality we don't need men to gaurd women so that they stay straight or vice versa<<

Allah(swt) says: "But those who disbelieve, dispute with false argument, in order to refute the truth thereby." (18:56)

"That is because those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord." (47:3)


So the unbeliever was left dumbfounded, his argument was overthrown, silenced, struck dumb and falsehood was rendered futile as is alway the case.

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Originally posted by Rani:
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The certain type of wardrobe you are talking about is not a fashion statement it is design to take away freedom and make women look dowdy.

My question: Why are you so hung up on wardrobe???

Ranbi wrote: Religion is evolving and changing with times

That is the whole problem, religion is somethign set by a higher being, rules for ppl to follow. How can human beings reform or change the rules. If that happens then the religion is no longer pure, holy or valid, so there is no point in following it. The first promise by god in the Qurna is that this holy book is protected and will never be changed. So that one holy and pure faith is followed. not one weak faith that changes everytime someone does not agree woth it.

And the supreme court is run by ppl, what right do they have to just come in and say ..oh this part of the religion isnt fair..and just change it or make it illegal. If you dont like what the religion preaches just dont follow it. Humans have no right to intevrene in god's job. And in any country Islam is follwed all of that country's laws are based on isalm and they are always upheld even if a bunch of ppl dont agrre w/ em'.

human changing laws set by god, now that is just plain ol' bullshit. if you ask me.


BRAIN:Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

[This message has been edited by offdachain (edited July 09, 2000).]

You guys fail to convince me that it is good thing to keep women in burka or chodar. You skirt around the real questions and abuse people to stop them from questioning. I am sure all the things you point out bad in secular west (while living here and enjoying the benefits) a lot worse things happen to women in your own countries. You are still living in 7th century and think you own the world and have right to tell women what to wear.

I don't think I want to discuss this any further because when people start making personal attacks and throwing filth around they have lost the discussion.

Good bye !!

I dont think its sane for all of us to waste our time with you rani, because all you posts are driven by ignorance. You fail to provide convicing argument that takin women out of burka and chadar is better for them.

P.S. I thought the last post was your last.


BRAIN:Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

In another thread: The questions posed are: Does Religion Affect the Intelligence of its followers?

Sure, it does! If it suppresses free thought and bars persuit of education will surely produce inferior beings.

Does Islam suppress free thought & persuit of education?

Why not read the main post (the 1st post) of this thread and decide for yourself!