Well it’s true that the “dynamics” in each family are different and while an 8 year old can be really good at one thing, he/she could be very sloppy at something else. So our role as parents is to empower them if you know what I mean…don’t do what they can do for themselves, but don’t be rigid about stuff they are still trying to become good at.
omg, s_mk and I posted “dynamics” at the same time.
But the rule should be that if you dont have a 8 years old, then dont talk about the set dos and don'ts of how a 8 years old should be raised. If you have one then I will be very respectfully listening to the opinions.
Ok I cannot argue with that BUT what I find weird is that people think a father changing daughters' diaper is considered weird!
I think there are two separate issues being talked about here--at what age can/should bathe alone and second, at what age should fathers stop being involved in that aspect (diaper chagning, baths etc).
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Now thats just dumb. People have no problem sending their kids to daycare and letting a complete stranger undress them and change them, but they think there is something messed up about a father taking care of his baby????? And why isnt it weird then for a mom for change her baby boy's diaper? Are men assumed to be perverts by nature!
those people do not have daughters, yet. That is the only thing I can think of.
For you, your child is a child, a helpless little person. your child's gender has nothing to do with how you should help him/her
Not talking about changing diapers as I dont find anything wrong with that. A child in diapers is definitley dependent.
The wrong part on my post was I assumed the daughter does not need any help and the daughter was not wearing anything (like panties) while in the shower.
But to me it is still weired that the mother is talking on the phone and asking father to help daughter. If the daughter needs help at this age, mother should help her unless it is an emergency or father is the only parent.
But to me it is still weired that the mother is talking on the phone and asking father to help daughter. If the daughter needs help at this age, mother should help her unless it is an emergency or father is the only parent
Ok now I understand this part definitely and totally agree. Yes in our household, my wife is incharge of all the personal needs of our daughters, but in case of any urgent need, I am the backup.
Ok I cannot argue with that BUT what I find weird is that people think a father changing daughters' diaper is considered weird!
I think there are two separate issues being talked about here--at what age can/should bathe alone and second, at what age should fathers stop being involved in that aspect (diaper chagning, baths etc).
But the rule should be that if you dont have a 8 years old, then dont talk about the set dos and don'ts of how a 8 years old should be raised. If you have one then I will be very respectfully listening to the opinions.
I personally disagree with everyone of you. That is one thing that 8 years old should be independent but if they are not and they need your help then not helping them (in bathing or whatever) is more of a bad parenting than avoid seeing them naked. You cant punish them for being 8 years old and expect them to be independent at the expense of you not helping them at all. 8 years old is still a child and if he/she needs your help then he/she needs your help, you cant dump your kid in the bathroom just because you have certain standards of how old he/she needs to be before you cant see them naked.
Before you want your kids to grow up, you should grow up.
I disagree with this. Point here is not if your child can or can't take shower at 8 yrs. Its about teaching your kids things at certain age that they'll have to take care of or learn in preparation to the next step.
My SIL has a 5 year old who is always in diapers. Now she can say oh its easy for her and who cares she is jsut a child and my child who I am comfortable changing etc. I think at 5 her little girl should be fully potty trained.
Its not about shoving your kids in the shower and saying you go do it doesn't matter you know how to do it or not. Bachay ko 8 saal ka hona hain aik din to pehlay se hi kyon nahi ahista ahista training di jaey to do things on their own. Specially taking showers, being potty trained etc. I don't think I'll like the idea of my husband giving shower to my girl at that age. Its just weird. Although it may not be too common but some girls hit puberty by that age. Imagine that.
all i see is bad parenting or a non cooperative child if your 8 yr old cant shower or bathe properly. some girls reach puberty at that age. no one is saying dont help your kid out... but i would definately not treat this as something oh honey its ok if you dont know how to soap yourself properly yet or wash behind your ears.... i would make sure they understood that its high time they knew how to bathe properly.
this friend of mine im talking about
a) i think she should have been the one bathing her daughter and not the husband since she was home herself
b) instead of telling her daughter off for being lazy in the bathtub, was taking the easy way out of parenting and getting the man to just bathe the child properly. thats bad parenting imho.
i thought good parenting was also teaching your children the value of sharam and haya especially when it comes to ones body? wouldnt you have started doing that way before your kid was an 8 yr old? my kid is 1.5 and ive been saying shame shame hojathi hai whenever we take off the diaper ever since he was a baby... he now knows to cover his pvts with his towel everytime whilst he waits for me to put on a fresh diaper .... at 1.5 yrs he knows this.. i cant imagine him not feeling embrassed at 8 with me still bathing him.
aisay tho bacha hamesha maa baap ke liye bacha hi rehtha hai... would you be willing to help your daughter wax her legs cuz oh daddy i cant reach behind my thigh puppy dog eyes ... where and when do you draw the line?
for me 8 yrs is way past the line. especially when it comes to a father bathing his daughter or a mother her son.
course there are the exceptions and whilst we cant overlook the fact that our child has a difficulty in one area... trying to baby them and say oh its ok koi baath nahi... they will eventually learn... thats just as bad.
My daughter is also 8, she bathes herself most of the time, I might help her if we are travelling and she is not sure how to work the shower otherwise she is independent for pee pees and poo poos and bathtimes. It also depends how aware the children are about being modest too, I am not saying I have done a wonderful jon with my daughetr or slandering anyone else, but she is quite modest in herself. She never even likes my hubby or anyone other than myself to see her in pants and vest.
Dads bathing 8 years olds...hhmmmm they should know how to bath themselves by this age really, my boys did by this age too.
I have an 8 year old daughter Ah.
She pretty much bathes herself but I keep the door wide open and I help her with her hair. It is too long and thick for her to handle on her own and she still manages to get shampoo in her eyes every once in a while.
Not only is my husband not involved in this part of her upbringing, she now refuses to even change her clothes while he is in the room. She has been taught about modesty and she protects herself not only from him but from everyone.