And so out of curiosity lets begin asking Paki men what they think women are for.
Me: mom is to nurture you. sister is to annoy. daughter is to educate. wife is to guard my house, until i can replace her with Brinks or some other Home Security Company.
mistress is for fun. that desi wife cant provide. tee hee hee.
yes well, carry on with your survey, but this is what the Quran says about the husband/wife relationship:
“And among His Signs is this, that He created for you wives from among yourselves, that you may find repose in them, and He has put between you affection and mercy”
[al-Room 30:21]
as for the mistress you mention... there r countless ayats & hadith regarding it for those who fears Allah's wrath...
My parents wouldn’t care as long as she’s Muslim. Well, I’m already married, so I guess that doesn’t really apply to me anymore (unless you consider that I have slots 2-4 unoccupied :D).
Also, while all women act b*tchy, you can always count on a desi girl to not cheat on you over any other type of woman on this planet (with the exception of South east asian women and chinese women)
I think Desi Girls on a whole have lower sexual libidos though, so while she wont cheat on you, you wont be getting any either, except through coercion.
"Okay, i promise to take you to Bombay Buffet on saturday if you flash me. Pleaaaasssseeee!!!"
Sick people
So…we have someone admitting that a desi wife is more loyal to her husband, and wont cheat on him… and somehow, our cultural experts here have found a way to degrade our women even for that :pagli:
No one is degrading desi women. People are stating the straight facts.
Desis have a low divorce rate because they have a greater family/marital discipline than other cultures. Asians do too.
At the same time, Desis are less "sexualized" than their western counterparts. Even Persians are more "okay" with sex and less prudish than desis.
For example, Persians dont consider it much if a couple are holding hands walking in a park. Arabs dont consider belly dancing a sexual endeavor, more like entertainment, and japanese dont think intersex mixing is going to encourage sexual crimes (because it dont). Desis find it teasingly offensive. Hence they are prudish about such matters.
Moreover, Desi women dont really enjoy the sexual liberation that women of other cultures do. Japanese, Thai, Arab, Greek, Angolan, South African and Americans/Europeans/Latinos have a much higher degree of sexuality than South Asians.
I know some of you are going to call it "degradation" not "liberation"; but the fact of the matter is it really is liberation. In essence, a woman who does things of free will isnt degrading herself if society respects it - like in Brazil or Argentina.
And if any of you are going to say it encourages rape, ask yourself about Sati, Acid Attacks, wife beatings, etc in Desi Culture and how until the British came, they were found acceptable
Lets face it, Desi culture has a typecast against marrying widows or young single women with kids. I dont know the reasoning, but if i had to guess a widow/divorcee is considered a "used good". And orphans are considered someone elses "family group".
So yes, Desis are prudish when it comes to sex. Desi women are great for cooking and cleaning and protecting house and raising kids. But i could not imagine (remember im only in college) that they would be that interesting in "companionship".
Not facts, opinions. However "true" it might be to one person (or a group of ppl) if you can't back it up with hard evidence, its not a fact, just an (educated or not) opinion.
Desis have a low divorce rate because they have a greater family/marital discipline than other cultures. Asians do too.
** At the same time, Desis are less "sexualized" than their western counterparts. **Even Persians are more "okay" with sex and less prudish than desis.
For example, Persians dont consider it much if a couple are holding hands walking in a park. Arabs dont consider belly dancing a sexual endeavor, more like entertainment, and japanese dont think intersex mixing is going to encourage sexual crimes (because it dont). Desis find it teasingly offensive. Hence they are prudish about such matters.
Moreover, Desi women dont really enjoy the sexual liberation that women of other cultures do. Japanese, Thai, Arab, Greek, Angolan, South African and Americans/Europeans/Latinos have a much higher degree of sexuality than South Asians.
I know some of you are going to call it "degradation" not "liberation"; but the fact of the matter is it really is liberation. In essence, a woman who does things of free will isnt degrading herself if society respects it - like in Brazil or Argentina.
So yes, Desis are prudish when it comes to sex. Desi women are great for cooking and cleaning and protecting house and raising kids. But i could not imagine (remember im only in college) that they would be that interesting in "companionship".
You're only in college (and single, i'm assuming), so that explains your extremely naive point of view here.
When it comes to marriage, sex is a private affair. Whatever a couple does in their bedroom is for them to know only and its not any business for ones to poke their noses into. I doubt any married couples have let you into their bedroom, figuratively and literally speaking that you can so easily assume that the guys are dissatisfied or the women are such prudes.
Alot of ppl throw around the word "liberal" without really knowing what exactly it means. The extremely misguided and ignorant believe that liberal means that one goes in the opposite direction of the larger society...
In any society, if a woman wants to have sex, that's her choice, in the end she will deal with the consequences not me. But since you're talking about liberation here, how can you call it "liberation" if its OK to have premarital sex/show your body/etc but its NOT alright to abstain from such things? True liberation and freedom is practicing your beliefs without being belittled..
No, i dont think so. Your presenting a one sided view of things.
In matters of liberation i didnt say "going against the grain"; rather there are more avenues opened to a person than one or two. Meaning, Desi society is filled with taboos and "dont do that!" and a very rigid and structured social system as well as a stratisfied social caste system.
In regards such a society where women are discouraged from working, discouraged from divorcing, and discouraged from showing themselves in public (not skin, just coming out in public) western society is much more liberal and utilitarian as opposed to Pakistani standards of decency which sometimes borders outright idiocy. "Keeping up with the Jones's" is a very stark mindset of the Pakistani people; along with "Hey Allah, parosi kya sochange??!!".
As far as sexuality goes, i would suspect, being a less sexual society, there is less sex. I am not totally feeling in the dark, as ive read in Psychology Class (introductory, for truths' sake) that more sexualized societies tend to be more risque and open to such "exploration" where closed societies put up brick walls and detour signs. And this goes outside of sexuality as it can be applied to anything.
Ive never been inside a couples' bedroom, but i dont have to. I can observe what must go on by the way their whole society acts in general. I am sure there are exceptions, but we are discussing society here, not picked individuals.
But i have yet to be married, probably later than sooner; and at this point in life i can wait to find out.
Rah man i havnt been on this forum for a while...nice to see same things being discussed.
I married a british white male and hes a muslim convert and thank the lord we r very happy and we have a 3 and half yr old daughter. Family had no problems with it so i think it depends upon the individual and their family.
