papa bhuto ki namz-y-janza

So Ik/PTI decided that chairman could only run two term.
That mean in 2 year even IK have to give up his position to some one else.

I say ab zanda-hy style politics is over in pak.

Unless things break again in couple of decades and we again demonstrated what we are
actually made of.
Untill then its a changed country. :aisha:

Re: papa bhuto ki namz-y-janza

qabar faroshon ko janazay saay dratay ho?
Have u eaten the grass my friend?

Re: papa bhuto ki namz-y-janza

You are talking about this

http://www.therepublicofrumi.com/images/79bhutto_funeral2.jpg

Re: papa bhuto ki namz-y-janza

come on pasha sb, I did not mean it literally.
It was a symbol.

Please remove this picture.

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I regularly pray to Allah that worse happens to all Pakistani corrupts and Devils who loot, plunder and rape Pakistan, worse then Bhutto, as there was Namaz-e-Janaza for Bhutto, but Devils and corrupts should not even get Namaz-e-Janaza.

Re: papa bhuto ki namz-y-janza

Itni intiha pasandi achi naheen hoti, :nono: waisay kabhi ghour key jiye ga kah Allah aap key dua qabool keon naheen karta hay :slight_smile:

Re: papa bhuto ki namz-y-janza

Safar akhir itna sada! MasAllah!

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This is a dead point for you know who :wink:

zindagi bhi itni saada hoti to kia baat thi sigh

Re: papa bhuto ki namz-y-janza

Leave the dead alone!!

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toba toba..pasha yaar, ghussa jan do…khan say pic nikal kay lay ayaee ho

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Yea intaha pasandi nahi hay, yea farz-e-ayen hay kay insaan dosakh-yee kamo say nafrat karay aur dozakh-yee logon say bhie nafrat karay.

You are right that I should ponder why my prayers are not getting fulfilled, but then I know the reasons for that, reason for me showing my distaste towards corrupts, and much more. :)

Let me tell you reasons why my prayers are not getting fulfilled, and also why those who do financial corruption while in power are almost guaranteed hell-dwellers.

1: why my prayers are not getting fulfilled.
Reason is that, it is way of Allah that Allah gives leave (dheel) to those who creates fitna in this world or are big sinners. For these people, world is paradise so Allah let them enjoy their paradise in wait for long term punishment of hell that they would get after death. My prayers would only give me sawab, but it is unlikely to harm these hell-dwellers.

2: Why I show my distaste towards them?
I do that, as that is part of Islam to show distaste for corruption and all wrong deeds, and to talk about them in bad ways (One should try to stop people doing bad deeds, but if one cannot stop them then option is only to talk about them … else, if one cannot even talk about them then to consider them bad at heart), as that would earn me good deeds,

3: Why those who do financial corruption while in power are guaranteed to go to hell (no ibadah, kharaat, sadqa, or good deeds could help them)?

It is obvious, though many do not understand. Reason is that:

A: Allah may forgive all what we miss or ignore related to right of Allah (Huquq-ul-Ibad) … that includes accumulating sin due to not doing Roza, Namaz, Haj, Zakat, etc … or getting involved in Zina, drinking, eating haram, doing haram, etc.

B: But, Allah would not forgive what we did wrong to others (Huquq-ul-Ibad). Only way to get forgiven here is by getting forgiveness from people we wronged.

C: Anyhow, worse are deeds that are related to doing injustice or harming other creations of Allah or doing atrocities on them.

If one did injustice or harmed other creations of Allah unintentionally, then it is possible that Allah would find ways to forgive on judgment day (by compensating people one harmed or did injustices).

But if someone harms or did injustice to other creations of Allah intentionally, then there is no forgiveness, other than one can compensate them with own good deeds on judgment day (that is, if one have enough good deed to compensate them … else one would take bad deeds of those one harmed and end up in Jahanum).

When someone does financial corruption while in power, that person harms and does injustice to whole nation, that in Pakistan means 180 million people and country. All what corrupts does are intentional too. It is worse than even murder, as then one has harmed one murdered person, not 180 million people (most are poor and destitute). That means, it would be almost impossible for financial corrupts in power to compensate 180 million people on judgment day, and that means, guaranteed hell for corrupts ... in other words, since these corrupts would never be able to compensate harms they have done to their 180 million victims and brought misery in their life, they would never even smell air of paradise.

So, to dislike corruption and corrupts who are hell-dwellers is Islamic duty and that is what I am trying to fulfil by showing hate towards them and what they do.

Re: papa bhuto ki namz-y-janza

:smack2:
Kaafir Kaafir Shia Kafir
Kaafir Kaafir Sunni Kafir
Taliban bhi yahi samjhtay hain kah sirf woh Janati aur baqi dozkhi hain, main aur aap koun hotay hain kissi ko dozakhi kahnay wallay ? yah Allah he bahtar janta hay. Jannah and Hell is in hand of Allah not in you & me.
Although i don’t support these ppl but can’t give Fatwa about them :hat: Baqi aap azaad hain aur Molvi Munaqa key tarah fatwa farma saktay hain :slight_smile:

Re: papa bhuto ki namz-y-janza

May nay kisie ko apni post may kafir tou nahi kaha? Aap yea mujh per kaisa Ilzaam laga rahay hain?

I am no one to call anyone dosakh-yee aur send them to dosakh either. I am just going with very famous hadees, that is:

‘Al-Rashi wal Murtashi fil Naar’ …

Yani: Those who take or give bribe are hell-dwellers (dosakh-yee). What I know, this hadith is about people in government who take bribe, or those who give bribe (voluntarily) to government officials, so that wrong gains are made at the expense of state and/or people, and thus, both (Rashi and Murtashi) are hell-dwellers.

Thus, me calling corrupt people dosakh-yee is on basis that those who take bribes (or do any sort of financial corruption while in power or in authority) are certainly dossakh-yee (as per hadith) … and I have to hate not only their acts but them too.

I only explained the reason why these people are hell-dwellers (dosakh-yee). You have right to disagree with my explanation, but if you want to complain about me calling them dosakh-yee then you should not complain with me, rather you should take your complain to Prophet (SAW), and if you think this hadith is wrongly quoted, then you can take your complain to those who wrote this hadith. :slight_smile:

[Anyhow, by all logic, corrupts in power do harm interest of people living under their rule, and thus these corrupts are guilty of people whose life they make hell by robbing what should be spent on making life of people better.

So, according to all Islamic principles, these people may get away in this world, but have to pay for their corrupt deeds on judgment day, and since they are guilty of 180 million as far as Pakistan is concerned, they would have to pay 180 million people with their good deeds for their corruption, and if they cannot compensate (what I believe they would not be able to), they would surely going to burn in hell]

So, I did not issued any fatwa or said that A, B or C is Kafir. I only said that corrupts are dosakh-yee as that is what hadith says too and that is what one can also deduce from Islamic teachings, principles, and logic.

Re: papa bhuto ki namz-y-janza

Kaafir aik ista’ra tha aur iss say pahlay mujhay toheen-e-risalat :saw2: ka murtakib qaraar dia jay main bahas lapaitay hoye sirf yahi kahoon ga :slight_smile:

Shab Ko Shaitan Bhi Mangay Hai Pnaa’hen Jis Se,
Subha Ko Wo Saahib-e-Emaan Huwa Phirta Hai,

Janay Kab Kon Kisay Maar De “Kaafir” Keh Kr,
Shehar Ka Shehar “Musalman” Huwa Phirta Hai…

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http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c34.0.403.403/p403x403/602717_207477506044240_1357646704_n.jpg

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Was the person in middle killed by extremists/TTP for any Islamic view?

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^ no.

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Har zaban main kuchh adbi batain hoti hain , shairi aur muhawaray .
Urdu bhi aik aisi hi zuban hay .

I was thinking that you knew Urdu .

Re: papa bhuto ki namz-y-janza

dekho logo papa Bhutto ka namiz-e-Janaza jo ke ek legally elected prime minister tha
tum kirthon awam ko kehtay ho qabar parast
allah na karay tumharay kisi begunah pyaray ka yeh hashar nashar ho
phir hum dekhengay ke kon qabar parast hay

Re: papa bhuto ki namz-y-janza

Nice poetry and truth too. When I see Pakistani right wing politicians like Nawaz, Shahbaz, Imran, Fazlur-Rahman, Munawar Hasan, etc … and some so-called religious scholars, this is what I feel about them, that behind cover of dark night their deeds would make Shaitan ashamed, but when they come out showing their face in daylight, they pretend to be pious Muslim.

Anyhow, coming to topic, what I wrote about corrupts as Jahanumies, it was nothing to do with just Islam, but it was to do with every world religion that believes on after death justice.

For instance, every religion says that persons would be accountable for all misdeeds they did in this life to others, and that they would have to repay for what they did or get punished by God.

Corruption is one of the biggest misdeeds anyone in power can do towards people. Due to corruption, they become guilty towards every person they ruled of stealing, atrocities, injustices, misery, pain, hunger, joblessness, and much more wrongs. One of the biggest misdeeds they do is violation of trust (Khyanat).

Just imagine simple case: A policceman takes bribe wrongly (so no state revenue is lost). One might think that misdeed is between policeman and person he took bribe. But that is not the case. Policemen took bribe because he is entrusted by natiion with responsibility and power, and that is how he got into position of taking bribe. Thus taking bribe was wrong that policeman did towards whole nation, he violated the trust of nation (did khyanat with power nation entrusted him), and on day of judgement policeman would be answerable to whole nation for that khyanat (khyanat with entrusted power and responsibility)… nation of 180 million people … and would have to compensate them for the ‘khyanat’ he has done to their trust. Same is true of all wrongs a person does using state power,

Same is true if a government official wrongly gave permission for house building, wrong or early electricity connection after taking bribe or favour, wrong admission in college, wrong job appointments, nepotisn, etc, person violates trust of the nation for personal gains or favours, and thus would be accountable for that on judgement day.

So, people in power would be answerable to every person they ruled and wronged, and not just few. Obviously, paying with good deeds to whole nation of 180 million people one wronged immensely would be almost impossible compare to paying few a person may have wronged in life, and that is the reason, corrupts (in power) are guaranteed to go to hell.

If you understood what I wrote than it is fine, but if you could not then also it is fine, as every person is answerable for his own deeds. I can only say that ignorance is big bliss but if there would be accountability after death than ignorance would not save anyone from accountability and punishment of judgment day.

Though I have to admit that there are many who do not even believe that there would be life or accountability after death so for them what I wrote is meaningless.

I am pretty sure that many, including Pakistani corrupt politicians and bureaucrats, who do not believe on after-death life or accountability, under the cover of night darkness must be silently singing:

Song of corrupts:

Ham ko maloom hay qiyamat kee haqeeqat lakin
Mazlumo kee kushfhami kay liya achcha ho ga

Mer jayain gay tou phir kia zindah hon gay?
Yea daranay ka hamay propaganda ho ga

Dunyia hee hay bus zindagee ka Hasil
Issi dunyia ko hamay jannat banana ho ga

Corruption banatee hay hamay ameer-o-kabeer
Hamay iss corruption ko hee pujna ho ga

Jo dartay hain hisaboyn aur dozakh say
Unhay dunyea kee dosakh may rahna ho ga