PMLN lawyers are not contesting the authenticity. Rather, questioning on technicalities. Like, they dont deny that Nawaz held an iqama from UAE. But they are questioning whether JIT received it through legal means or not. Same goes for other documents. And that according to them, MLA requests should go through the govt via foreign office. They are, simply put, clutching at straws.
As for the CRIME, it is theft of public funds, which led to creation of Hudaibiya Mills, which led to an elaborate setup of offshore companies and properties. Why do you think Sharifs are so adamant at keeping Hudaibiya case closed? Ishaq Dar’s confessional statement is 100% accurate…
Didn’t " Qabil-e-Fakhar" Sapoot of JIT answered that with proves in their thousand pages long report?
is this was not the main question as the judge rightly said and Mighty ISI, MI and the brave and most intelligent being on earth dig that out with the help of “cousins” almost bankrupt law firm, which was paid BP 66,000, and which had only BP7000 in bank account with liabilities above BP8000 at the time they were given the task and not to forget, the owner of the firm is a Rohani peer as well…
No wonder SC is siding itself from JIT’s finding (well cant say they are findings)…and SC may refer the case to NAB…
Judges also said that NS cant be proved as a owner of the apartments…
so this JIT report is nothing more than piece of crap…just like other JIT reports prior to this..
Didn’t Judge said today there is no case of public money corruption is noted in JIT. You THINK corruption happened but you don’t know that and you certainly are not provin it. That’s where there is NO crime yet.
Main sharif passed away 15 years ago who owned businesses and transferred monies. Money trail has been supplied, of judges don’t want to accept it or understand it, there will be a trial
Judges have already noted that just based on a mere report a public office holder can’t be removed in recently concluded case. There is this precedence and SC can’t go against it. Also SC can’t disqualify / punish PM if there is no corruption. Very sticky situation fo SC here with this precedence.
You will see how the content of report is also trashed in the Trial and how aa jehagir will toy with JIT members in trial when it will start.
Hudabiya case is closed by LHC, something Calle s double jeoprdy in law. Can’t keep opening closed and settled cases otherwise let’s also open Bhutto hanging case, and million others. Want to set that precedence SC? Be our guest.
Lol…your arguments are more reflective of the press conference banter of Abid Sher Ali and Safdar Awan than facts.
Mian Sharif had almost nothing to do with all this money. Look at the balance sheet of ittefaq foundry before 1971, because that is as far as Mr. Sharif went. Nawaz Sharif brought in his dead father with a calculated plan.
Hudaibiya can be re-opened, as the case was closed by LHC even though NAB was ready to prosecute it. As expected, you are acting naive. Ishaq Dar’s confession is there, based on which he got a pardon. The SC has already raised the issue as to why NAB did not file a reference against the LHC for quashing a case in which one of the principle accused had submitted a confession. Not sure which case you are following, but you guys are acting oblivious to the facts…which is your prerogative.
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Prcedence is not acting oblivious to the facts. Precedence is the FACT. Precedence from a case in SC from 4 weeks ago, SC said a Govt / Public office bearer cant be removed based on a report. They said it not us, they cant go back on it. Precedence from Irsalan Ifthikar case is that Adult Childers business is not part and parcel to Father (in that case Justice Chaudhry), SC did that not us, so thats two precedence that are enough to remove any doubt over Disqualification of NS. Further, even if we say Disqualify, thats a punishment so where is the Crime as per constitution. Owning businesses is not crime and that is settled now. Its a SC Judge that agreed today that there is NO indication of Corruption in JIT report so how can NS be punished. SC themselves have brought up Trial court here which is the only logical step.
SC can not disqualify PM due to two precedent cases, they probably will defer this to Trial court which may takes very long (I am always of opinion that a very long legal battle is in play).
In the trial court the SIX JIT members will be Cross examined and they will be roasted (hope they are ready for it) but I dont think this is where Game planners want to go. Further, now that its getting clear the head of JIT is a haramkhor khabees that cost 50K pound on his cousins defunct company (nepotism), another member of JIT’s wife doing Mujras in PTI jalsas, two military members, will make things very very interesting when they will be quizzed and questioned by lawyers and very quickly the intent and content of JIT will be questioned. In Trial court every word of JIT will be under microscope, a CRIME will be determined which probably is Sharifs did corruption and bought Flats. That will be the hypothesis and it will be fought on. If indeed there is Corruption, hang NS, I am for it but if there is No corruption have to Shut up once and for all. The only way to determine this now is a full Trial period. Are you Ready for this because NS sure as hell seems to be ready to take down any one and every one with him if it comes to that.
Further, lets just assume if SC simply disqualify NS on basis of his family owning flats and hes not having answers (although its proven that there is no corruption and agreed by Justice today) that they now or right after will need to disqualify haramkhor zaakatchor imran, badTareen, aleem khabees on same pretext as they will create yet another precedence. Otherwise, there can be / will be and should be riots and blood shed. In case of haramkhor imran, the issue goes back similar to sharifs that how a son of a haramkhor convicted govt servent went to Oxford, lived lavishly, lived beyond his means after cricket and now is second richest parlimantarian. How does haramkhor imran fits the bill of 62/63 with having a b@stard child which is a proven matter per Los Angeles county court (check the records of clerk of courts there). Having a b@stard child was an indication of imran’s moral turpitude before he became MNA so it was not an issue to be taken in court but now that he is MNA, this has to be resolved as a father of a b@stard cant be Sadiq and Ameen, hence disqualified for Parliament.
Finally, the role of IB. I think its given that Govt is sitting on explosive recordings that IB obtained which are probably being used in back room deals similar to 2014 Dharna where the recording broke back of dharna, what will be the role of these recordings. ITs clear that NS will agree to decision what ever it may be but if he is disqualified, staying quite is not an option, and a lot of dirty laundry will come out. Are you ready for it? We are sure as hell ready and want it.
As for repeating what Abid sher ali said or not, you can assume what ever you want. I am just pointing out the case facts and what I think will happen in my opinion.
Another note, that is not getting enough attention. Anecdotal evidence but still of some value, the LIKES, Comments are soaring on PMLN pages / twitter feeds, I being border line PMLN follower before is now Staunch follower. PMLN from all indication is not losing its vote at all, what will you do when SS led PMLN will again sweep through from Shangla to Rahim Yar Khan and come in power with 120 plus seats ? something for game planners to think that these tactics dont destroy vote banks rather polarize country to the fact that no way in hell me or my family will ever consider haramkhor zaakatchor imran now when in 2013 my mother and sister voted PTI, me / my brother and father voted PMLN and we saw the beauty of divided families on issues. The issues are now gone and staunch party line polarization is in. Hope game planners are happy with this.
following govt financial and agricultural policies, many like me were looking towards other options, Ishaq DaR have simply torpedoed Real-Estate and Agricultural Sector by his poor policies and vision…
Traders were also not happy with him and have asked SS to remove him, Real Estate developers prefer to talk to Haroon Akhtar…he have damaged the trader community to the extend that SS have intervene to not to loose them ( reason why Dar dont like SS and Ch Nisar etc)…
anyway, we were off opinion that had it not Imran Khan and his petty politics, NAwaz govt would have fallen due to Ishaw Dar some 2 years ago and we Shall NOT be voting for PMLn at federal level and would vote for SS in thd province!!
anyhow, since this Islo lock down, and IK’s continuous tunnel vision politics, the vote ans sympathy have tilted towards NS and if they disqualify NS!!! iam sure SS will come up with 2/3rd majority ( and we know SS wont have Ishaq Dar in his team)…
this is on ground situation…the farmers are saying " aay aino km kyon nHi karn dainday" why didnt he let him work…and sympathy ( the anger on Nawaz Govt changed into Sympathy) is with NS…
Moreover, if you look at the development history, NS is the only one who acutally did something on ground!!! IK given chance in KPK just kept on talking and conspiring against NS…trust me when i say this!!! if IK have done only 30-40% what PMLN did in Punjab he could have taken over the Punjab and despite the performance PMLN would have been on opposition benches…
but IK have failed miserably, best he did was acted as a tissue paper since 2010…and tissue paper once used cant be used by others…
company which belongs to Maryam Safdar… did lataluqi in Jan 2017… In hearing… Sharif family submitted those letters… It looks like… lies are fabricated in JIT report… Sharif family will come out clean after decision… :cobra:
Yea saab JIT kay samnay bhi peash kiyea gayea … per jab JIT investigated, they found that all these papers was Touta Maina kee kahani.
As for gulf steel sale … and receiving AED 12 million … UAE authority letter says that … 25 percent share sale … or export of scrap … such transaction never happened. Read the letter.
Since it is official letter … on UAE government paper head, signed by Judge Blooshi … who is also Director of International cooperation department … it is obvious that all documents contrary to written in this letter becomes invalid.
According to this letter, sales agreement of 25 percent shares by Tariq Shafi … claimed by NS family and document produced were fake … as UAE authority could not find any document in their archive.
Actually, other investigation showed that Gulf Steel gone bankrupt with AED 14 million unpaid debt. That means, being 25 percent share holder, Tariq Shafi was liable of AED 3.5 million … and to safe himself, Tariq Shaif ran away from UAE. later, when corruption money came to NS, he did settlement, paid the liabilities of Tariq Shafi and cleared him.
As for export of scrap metals/ machines from Ahel Steel to KSA, same letter says that … they searched and found that no such such export happened from UAE to KSA in 2001 or 2002.
Further, in answer to question 4, UAE authorities says that … Tariq Shafi did not received AED 12 million as claimed by Tariq Shafi, rahter he received NO money neither Ahle Steel paid him any money … plus, Tariq Shafi did not send any money from UAE to Qatar for investment … rather, nothing was sent.
But NS thinks that not only his supporters are retards, but whole Pakistan, including judges, are retards, and thus, would buy his story of bull-crap.
Now read carefully, try to understand what letter says, and think … should this official letter important or concocted documents full of lies (especially when all know how notorious NS and his family is in producing fake letters and saying blatant lies):
Your first and last paras simply display the hypocrisy, plus the froth and cursing and swearing, that has always been the hallmark of PMLN.
Nawaz Sharif is a complete part and parcel of this grand fraud that they have been committing for the past 3 decades, which is why they have not been able to show a single legally admissible ownership document, or sale or purchase document. All of their lame defense is based on love letters, or forgeries. After Maryam’s forged trust deed, they are now re-producing the forged sale deed, which is NOTRIZED, not NOTARIZED, by dubai court.
As for electoral victories, I dont care who wins in elections, so long as it is a fair victory. But to try and use ‘awami adalat’ argument to respond to criminal charges is an absurdity that would be expected from illiterates…not educated people.
Using the ‘game planners’ excuse suddenly becomes relevant for you now, because Sharif is finally getting caught…but back when he was benefiting from game planners in the 80s and 90s, noone made a peep. No nooner is gutsy enough to condemn Sharifs role in the 80s and with IJI…noone has ever asked him to apologize for being a part of that racket…but are ok to using a lame defense of ‘game planners’, just because Sharif doesnt have a ‘real’ defense.
