Palestinian Jihadis have finally killed the very concept of Palestinian state

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^^ It is useless to show or talk about protestors in Canada or Europe etc. At the end of the day, they all go home and settle in their well heated comfy apartments. At the end of the day all these protestors sit in front of their TVs, pop some corns and watch the videos of protests. Their kids go to good schools, and the protestors drive their cars to work.

Does that help Palestinians? No Siree!

In fact Palestinian militancy has resulted in continuous loss of the their territory all the way from 1948. Wish these protestors do a favor to Palestinian by asking them to end the militancy and become peaceful citizens just like the people of Toronto and London.

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zzzz, burqa and his apartments....

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Resistance Movement against the Nazi Regime during the WWII was also considered by a lots of governments as being a terrorist movement ... Do you think it was ? Tell me, do you consider the Betar movement as terrorist ?

Anyway ! Palestinian people have elected Hamas, whatever some people can say, Hamas is a legal organization and "democratic" countries which pretend to defend democracy and freedom have no right to blame this vote or boycott Hamas leaders ! Hamas is a political representative, a political contact, do you really think that politicians choose their contacts ? If politicians were to choose their contacts, they would never progress ! It is so strange how Western countries which pretend to defend democracy prefer to support Arab dictatorships and ignore the only democratically elected groups ones like Hamas and Hezbollah. It is really hypocritical !

Hamas is the result of humiliations, attacks, despoliations by Israeel towards Palestinian, Hamas is the result of the Israelian policy. There is an occupation and a resistance, please don't reverse the roles ! Palestinian people have chosen their means of resistance, we cannot decide for them, this is their choice, they are in the best position to know which party, which policy is better for them ! *If you cannot accept the decision of a people, how can you pretend to defend democracy ??? *

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How can you tell that ? Did you compare ? Have you ever lived in an Arab society ?

Some links about Arab Israeli citizens :

Israel’s Arabs: Second-Class Citizens in Their Own Land - by Ferry Biedermann
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Israeli Arabs: ‘Unequal citizens’
For Israel’s Arab Citizens, Isolation and Exclusion

Some extracts :

“The Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) documents human and civil rights abuses against Arab citizens of Israel has increased since 2000.”

“Special attention should be paid to the plight and abject living conditions of the Bedouin.””

“Since the publication of the Or Commission report, little has been done to improve the standing of the Arab community in Israel. Consecutive governments have adhered to policies of discrimination and neglect and have absolved themselves of their obligations toward Arab citizens. In the absence of fair and enforced state policies, inequality continues to grow between Israel’s Jewish and Arab citizens.”

"“We wanted to be treated as equal citizens inside the State," he said. "But this is a dream that has not materialised.”

And don’t ask for the living conditions of women in Israel…maybe worst than in some Arab countries.

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Oh my God !

We feel concerned when innocent Human beings are killed and persecuted no matter if they are Muslims or not, if they live in India or in Palestine or in Africa or anywhere else...

You don't seem to know the Palestinian society... A lots of Seculars, Christians, Communists, even Jews live in Palestine and are persecuted too by Israel !

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^ I know the Palestinian demographics. But this war is mainly between Jewish Israel and Arab/Muslim Palestine. Try to understand the context of the post instead of reading it literally.

Your Weird Childhood Habits :)
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Firing thousands of rockets has nothing to do with democracy. Stop smuggling weapons and firing rockets and the justification used for an economical blockade evaporates. There is nothing humiliating about using peaceful means to achieve ones goals contrary to what Hamas, militants, or other terrorists might believe.

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For all those supporting Israeli barbarism:

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While reviewing pics, can you please close your eyes for a moment and think if you would be in Gaza at this time!!!

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Horrible indeed.

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come on BP, they are all "Jihadis", terrorist. These little kids are future islamist.

This bombing is just a preventive measure to stop "rocket" attacks of future, you should not change your stance on the basis of some "made up" pictures.

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underthedome, the peaceful means strategy is also applicable to Israel. Provocation of firing rockets does not justify the demonstration of such excessive force on the Palestinians. Poor kids and women are being killed.
Even in a war such crimes are not acceptable.

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Shame on these Hamas ppl......Don't they understand that because of them, innocent ppl are being killed....Oh wait a minute, they themselves are barbaric and don't get moved by these pics. Somebody...please explain them that their rockets are just like fireworks in front of Isrealli muscle...so and give in to save these innocent lives.

Mere Naina Saawan Bhaadon-
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Consistency is the name here bro!

If you know there is a storm out there, you would avoid getting out (or take appropriate protection before getting out).

We have 60 years of history where it is clear as a day that "Palestinian Jihad" does not pay. Everytime Jihadis or Fidayeen launch attacks on Israel, the response has been overwhelming and Arabs lose.

60 long years man and Arabs have not learned the basic fact.

That's why all these protests and net wars are useless and cannot save those kids. The real way to save those kids is to not throw rockets in the first place.

I hope you understand this simple thing.

Nov-Dec in London
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I agree collective punishment be it in the form of military strikes or economical blockades are unacceptable just as rocket attacks are. Blind rocket attacks are not a legit form of resistance but an act of war.

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If nothing else, we should respect the courage of the Palestinian people.

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^^^^ What's the point of the courage when you see so many innocent ppl getting killed ? Shame on the courage/stupidity ?

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Its not courage, its stupidity (and terrorism). If they had not initiated acts of aggressions, they would have a lot of support worldover.

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Did you completely miss the support they recieved all over the world and continue to receive so?

Even if Hamas didn't exist, someone would've STILL sent rockets into Israel.

THe problem with people like you is that you believe this conflict started 2 weeks ago when Hamas launched rockets into Israel.

The FACT of the matter is, this is a 60 year old issue. So dont degrade it by bringing in your 2 weeks of CNN and FOX pundit analysis.

Israel broke the ceasefire when they attacked Rafah crossing thinking Hamas was smuggling rockets. THEY broke the ceasefire, NOT hamas. This is confirmed by a multiple of sources, Youtube it, google it. I dont have time to spoon feed you.

Israel put Gaza under a 19 month siege, with no bread water electricity, and you wanted the Gazans to throw roses at Israel? Applaud their siege ?

I dont think so.

Hamas is 100% justified, regardless of what Media portrays them as.

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Consistency is the name here bro!

If you know there is a storm out there, you would avoid getting out (or take appropriate protection before getting out).

[We have 60 years of history where it is clear as a day that "Palestinian Jihad" does not pay. Everytime Jihadis or Fidayeen launch attacks on Israel, the response has been overwhelming and Arabs lose.

60 long years man and Arabs have not learned the basic fact.

That's why all these protests and net wars are useless and cannot save those kids. The real way to save those kids is to not throw rockets in the first place.

I hope you understand this simple thing.

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When did they start throwing rockets into Israel?

How many UN declarations been rejected by Israel?

When did first and second Intifada start, and did it not started as a peaceful political movement?

Why Intifada starts anyway?

Why blame is always on Jihadis?

How can you say these people are really Jihadis always, if a rocket attack has to serve as a pretex anyone can do that?

Why a democratically elected Govt. of Hamas is not recognized by Israel?

Why US and Israel suspended aid to Hamas Govt?

Why Alfath is being pushed to stand against Hamas?
Is Hamas just a buch of Jihadis?

Do you know what weapons Israel army use to control the peaceful protests?

In essence what you are saying means that if weak you should bow down to the powerful, never ask for your rights, never question about your freedom and never struggle politically...wonderful

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I have some more questions:

Was Rachel Corrie a palestinian jihadist?

How come Israel won't allow journalist into the region when their own supreme court has issued otherwise?

How come Israel won't sign the peace agreement proposed by the Arab states that will resort it back to its 1967 borders?

Why does Israel lie about the oxygen cylinders which it claimed were rockets being unboarded from a truck?

Why was Israel's first prime minister a number one terrorist on Britain's terrorist list?