Very interesting read. I’m not pasting the whole article as it is quite long, but it does look like the situation in Balochistan is deteriorating. I had no idea things were this bad, this issue receives nowhere near the coverage it deserves.
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Thanks for sharing.
This is the result of our poor inter pass think with tanks.
http://express.pk/images/NP_LHE/20110330/Sub_Images/1101204796-2.gif
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I'm not sure what to make of this. The army, if it is kidnapping, doesn't need to return the bodies this way. If it can hold them for so long, it can get rid of the bodies too. Militants could be impersonating the army. On the other hand, the army isn't exactly innocent little angels. They have, in the past, been involved in the killing of civilians.
It is quite a coincident that the lead general here, as in east pakistan, is also named Niazi.
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I know a lot about the Balochistan issue and the picture is very unclear but this is truly a very dirty war and you will suprised how ugly it is.
The Niazi coincidence is just terrible… 
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this was a truly depressing read.
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Actually no one is ready to accept the truth.
Talking about resemblance of Niazi
This is question of B ب & Pپ
B is always targeted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahawalpur_(princely_state)
An example;
****Bahawalpur 17 MNH 1948 Pakistan Bahawalpur Union Issue
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While the whole country focuses on target killings, Taliban, Raymond Davis and drone killings, we have a war brewing here. The young generation in Balochistan refuses to even acknowledge Jinnah or the Pakistani flag which tells you the situation is very bad indeed. I don't think crushing rebellion with brutal and cruel force ever works.
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Same issue as all others......the army is an ostrich with head burried in the sand..........they want to 'correct' the situation rather than solve it..........trying to 'win over the local population' with lollypops etc.........thats not going to work.......and sadly...there is no INTENTION from the establishment to solve this problem.........
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sad and largely ignored by the average pakistani. I doubt anything will wake the army up on the need to have a political solution and empower the baloch.
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They can do nothing. They are not qualified for it.
They can do only that which they learn for the years after passing the intermediate.
How to kill ?
I assure you that if democracy is given time and there could be fair election ,the things will start coming better. Subject to the condition that they will stop their 'Panga' in every thing.
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Worse again, he adds, they were supported by India. The Punjabi general offers no proof for his claim, but US and British intelligence broadly agree, according to the recent WikiLeaks cables. India sees Balochistan as payback for Pakistani meddling in Kashmir – which explains why Pakistani generals despise the nationalists so much. "Paid killers," says Niazi. He vehemently denies involvement in human rights violations. "To us, each and every citizen of Balochistan is equally dear," he says.
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may be it was Bhutto who started the first grand military operation against Balochis??
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There have been 5 baloch uprisings 3 started under military rule and out of remaining 2 one in 48 under Jinnah one under ZAB. first one in 48 was very brief other under ZAB it is documented many times that ZAB wanted to end it in 75-76 regretting it was a mistake but stopped by COAS Zia who waited till he took it over to end it..
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I am sorry but I see a Bal Thakeray hidden in every … here.
It was Field Martial Ayoub Khan who started the operation in 60s.
Army was ruling and badly used. This was a movement actually against nonsense creation of one unit.It was again in 1973 and actually it is a continuous act.
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I hate to say this but Punjab rulers are greedy they keep the wealth in their province and rob other provinces. They haven't given much money to Balochistan or the Pasthun areas. In Kashmir, people from overseas sustain life by sending money back home. However, I am wholly and totally against Balochis even contemplating independence. They better recognise the Pakistan flag otherwise it is going to get even more bloody till they accept it and I support military crackdowns on insurgents..
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But they gained fresh purpose **in 1972 when Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, the new civilian leader, launched a clandestine project to build nuclear weapons.
A year later military operations were launched against nationalist militants in Balochistan province.**
These two events helped rehabilitate the ISI and the military.
After Bhutto was ousted by Gen Zia ul-Haq in 1977, the Balochistan operations were ended but the nuclear programme was expanded.
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I personally think that at the moment its not important to discuss the history or past operations in balochistan, its more important to try to resolve the present crisis and put a safeguard in place to avoid similar incidents in the future and to address the issues being faced by the baloch's
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I personally think that at the moment its not important to discuss the history or past operations in balochistan, its more important to try to resolve the present crisis and put a safeguard in place to avoid similar incidents in the future and to address the issues being faced by the baloch's
Yes I agree but with a dark black past,How can you ensure them about your positive intention.
Better we should act first.
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Worse again, he adds, they were supported by India. The Punjabi general offers no proof for his claim, but US and British intelligence broadly agree, according to the recent WikiLeaks cables. India sees Balochistan as payback for Pakistani meddling in Kashmir – which explains why Pakistani generals despise the nationalists so much. "Paid killers," says Niazi. He vehemently denies involvement in human rights violations. "To us, each and every citizen of Balochistan is equally dear," he says.
From the same source
However, gross human rights abuses are not limited to the army. As the conflict drags on, the insurgents have become increasingly brutal and ruthless. In the past two years, militants have kidnapped aid workers, killed at least four journalists and, most disturbingly, started to target "settlers" – unarmed civilians, mostly from neighbouring Punjab, many of whom have lived in Balochistan for decades. Some 113 settlers were killed in cold blood last year, according to government figures – civil servants, shopkeepers, miners. On 21 March, militants riding motorbikes sprayed gunfire into a camp of construction workers near Gwadar, killing 11; the Baloch Liberation Front claimed responsibility. Most grotesque, perhaps, are the attacks on education: 22 school teachers, university lecturers and education officials have been assassinated since January 2008, causing another 200 to flee their jobs.
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Interesting thread. But isn't it exaggerated?