Pakistan's new full time coach - Dav Whatmore or Mohsin Khan?

PCB to meet with Whatmore in January

   Umar Farooq

December 23, 2011

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The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has invited Dav Whatmore to Pakistan to discuss the terms of becoming their next head coach, a board official has said. Whatmore, along with Julian Fountain, who is tipped to be the new fielding coach, will arrive in Pakistan in the second week of January next year.
We are in discussions with [Dev] Whatmore," Subhan Ahmed, the PCB’s chief operating officer told ESPNcricinfo. “In fact, we have called him next month to negotiate and hope to reach a final agreement with him.”
Whatmore is the current head coach of the IPL franchise Kolkata Knight Riders, and is a former coach of Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. He has been in talks with the PCB’s search committee for a few months but both sides have failed to reach an agreement so far. The committee is believed to favour hiring home-grown batting and bowling coaches, given Pakistan’s traditional strength in these disciplines, but is keen on having Whatmore and Fountain be the head coach and fielding coach respectively.
One sticking point with Whatmore is that his contract with Knight Riders runs until December 2012, and his desire to wait until after IPL 2012 ends in May is the main reason the PCB has delayed appointing a full-time coaching staff. Earlier this month, Mohsin Khan was named interim coach for the England series.

Fountain has worked with the PCB before in 2001 and 2006 under former Pakistan coaches Richard Pybus and Bob Woolmer. He was the specialist fielding coach for Bangladesh from August 2010 until the end of the 2011 World Cup and has previously worked with the England and West Indies teams as well. If he signs a deal with the board, Fountain could join the squad for the England series.

       Umar Farooq is ESPNcricinfo's Pakistan correspondent

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/546723.html

re: Pakistan’s new full time coach - Dav Whatmore or Mohsin Khan?

I think the role of ‘head’ coach is overstated in cricket. This is not soccer or rugby. One could argue that even with local coaches (Waqar, Mohsin), Pakistan has done well in international cricket over the past 15 months

Besides what is so special about Whatmore? coached two lowly ranked teams - Bangla, SLA (were not a great test side in 1996) - to moderate success and his record with KKR is atrocious.

If PCB wants to improve fielding … Then hire a fielding coach (Julian Fountain) :k:
If PCB wants to improve fitness … Then hire a fitness coach and so on

I agree with the hiring of home-grown batting and bowling coaches.

Finally with all these different coaches performing specific tasks, the role of ‘head’ coach becomes minimal anyways. So why change something that does not need fixing at the moment?

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**Whatmore’s IPL record

**“Whatmore has been the coach of the Kolkata Knight Riders team since 2009. In 2009, they finished last in the group stage and were eliminated. In 2010, they finished 5th and were again eliminated in group stage. In 2011, they entered knockout stage as they were 4th in group stage, but lost to Mumbai Indians.”

re: Pakistan's new full time coach - Dav Whatmore or Mohsin Khan?

Whatmore also took SL to world cup glory.

re: Pakistan's new full time coach - Dav Whatmore or Mohsin Khan?

True but his recent record is not that good

Besides if PCB wanted Whatmore so badly, they should have had him in before the important series against England in UAE. Apparently Whatmore's first priority is his contract with KKR and he does not want to commit to anything before May 2012.

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That's called commitment. I think he will be a good coach.

re: Pakistan's new full time coach - Dav Whatmore or Mohsin Khan?

i wish that infrastructure and other structural/systematic changes are brought in domestic cricket..so that good players come up......who don't need too much ''coaching''.......

re: Pakistan’s new full time coach - Dav Whatmore or Mohsin Khan?

I don’t like to talk about peoples’ salaries (because it is cheap and unethical!!) but it is also a fact that money is a big factor in the appointment of coaches these days be it cricket or any other sport

In contrast to Waqar’s salary of $7,000 USD per month ($84,000 per annum), PCB’s proposed offer to Whatmore is $18,000 per month ($216000 per annum). He may still Wantmore!! He probably gets more at KKR

Why can’t we pay local coaches the same as foreign coaches? Why this inferiority complex? Will desis ever be able to shake it off?

And look at how much BCCI is paying Fletcher (£700,000 or almost $1.1 million per annum)

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Whatmore steps down as Knight Riders’ coach

   Tariq Engineer

January 1, 2012

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Dav Whatmore has resigned as head coach of the Kolkata Knight Riders IPL franchise. Whatmore is the favourite to become the next coach of Pakistan, and cited his inability to discharge his duties with the Knight Riders as he pursues an international role.
The PCB has invited Whatmore to Pakistan in the second week of January to discuss his appointment, and the Knight Riders expressed their support of his desire to coach a national team again. Whatmore is a former coach of Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.
“We have been most supportive of Dav’s keen interest in pursuing an international coaching role and wish him the very best,” Venky Mysore, the chief executive of the Knight Riders, said. “His decision to resign is to ensure that Kolkata Knight Riders are able to plan for the transition and we thank him for that. We also thank him for all his contributions over the past two years”
Whatmore 's tenure with the Knight Riders lasted two seasons. In his first year, they finished sixth out of eight teams but a completely revamped side under captain Gautam Gambhir reached the knockouts in 2011 before losing to the Mumbai Indians in the Eliminator.
“The team has progressed in the right direction and as always, I wish the team continued success and look forward to them progressing to silverware in 2012,” Whatmore said in a statement. Many thanks to those who have supported and believed in me."
The Knight Riders have begun a search for a new head coach and would like to have a replacement named before the IPL player auction on February 4. “The head coach is a very important role,” Venky Mysore, the franchise’s chief executive, told ESPNcricinfo. “It is important that the coach has ownership of things.”

       Tariq Engineer is a senior sub-editor at Cricinfo

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ipl-kolkata/content/current/story/547569.html

re: Pakistan's new full time coach - Dav Whatmore or Mohsin Khan?

I agree with ehsan bhai that he will add meaningful value to pak team....especially no-nonsense attitude and authority to select the team.

re: Pakistan’s new full time coach - Dav Whatmore or Mohsin Khan?

It seems the drama has already begun!

Abdul Majid Bhatti writes in the Jang newspaper today that some players are unhappy (I guess they know he will make them work harder) and against Whatmore’s (as yet unconfirmed) appointment. But after learning a lesson from 2007, PCB is not paying attention to their concerns.

There is another snag.

PCB appointed Mohsin as interim coach (they never really thought of him as a permanent coach) after Waqar resigned from the job in August 2011. Whatmore is expected to take over as coach after conclusion of the England series.

My personal opinion is that Waqar Younis did a very good job with the team as coach AND at a difficult time. MHK is just enjoying and taking credit for Waqar’s hard work and Misbah’s tactical genius. If you listen to Mohsin talk in any of the sports shows, he comes across as being not a very smart guy. Right now, I can bet anything that Misbah and Younis are the main strategists of the team, with Afridi and ‘Professor’ (Hafeez) chipping in.

But it is also a fact that Pak have won two series under him - SLA + (lowly rated) BD i.e. Mohsin has produced results

What if Pakistan wins another tough series against England under Mohsin’s coaching? It w’d be a very tricky situation to say the least for all concerned - PCB, Whatmore and Mohsin. Some players might not be happy about Mohsin leaving after delivering three back to back series victories.

And not only would it be tough for PCB to release Mohsin, but also there will be huge expectations from Whatmore to deliver and take this team to the next level.

If however the England series goes terribly wrong for Pakistan then it will all fall into place as far as Whatmore replacing Mohsin goes

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Ye sab kuch Pakistan meiN hi kiuN hota hey? :bummer:

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Pakistan's New Coach?

When Pakistan has been going through success after success recently why do they have to sack the current coach for someone who doesn't even speak Urdu and doesn't understand the mentality of the players. Why can't we stick with the current coach?

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Good point and I’ve already made my point here

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/cricketnama/534825-pcb-to-meet-with-whatmore-in-january.html

The PCB should have backed Waqar Younis and given him certain reassurances (that perhaps he was seeking and he might not have resigned as coach) because he was doing a good job IMO

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Whatmore is a qualified coach and he maybe a very good coach (I don't dispute that) but there is no guarantee that Pakistan will do well or continue to improve under his coaching

Everyone agrees that Bob Woolmer was a fantastic coach but Pakistan's performance under his coaching was anything but satisfactory (got thrashed in Australia and England, 1st round exit WC 2007)

re: Pakistan's new full time coach - Dav Whatmore or Mohsin Khan?

My Q still stands:

Is it right to dispense with Mohsin as coach now - esp. after beating the #1 test team in this fashion? I certainly don't agree with it. Well he may not be a qualified coach (as per Zaka) but he has delivered three straight series victories (2 of them against SLA and England) and that is all that should matter at the end of the day (i.e. success and results) ... one could argue that **Mohsin is a 'well-oiled' coach now

**Look at what's happened to India under Duncan Fletcher (Is he really worth his US$ 1 million+ annual salary?) - 8 away defeats (and heavy ones too) in a row!!

re: Pakistan's new full time coach - Dav Whatmore or Mohsin Khan?

I hope they keep Mohsin khan as coach. I dont know what whatmore could do better in this series.

re: Pakistan's new full time coach - Dav Whatmore or Mohsin Khan?

What more do you expect from Whatmore? cheesy lol!

I think Mohsin will be back after Whatmore at a higher pay.

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Mohsin hints at wanting to coach Pakistan full time..

**Mohsin Khan, Pakistan’s interim coach, has dropped a veiled hint that he would like to be formally considered for the coaching job on a permanent basis after Pakistan beat England by 72 runs in Abu Dhabi and took an unassailable 2-0 lead in the three-Test series.

**Moshin and his captain, Misbah-ul-Haq, have been widely acclaimed for bringing stability and contentment to a Pakistan dressing room so often riven by conflict, but while Pakistan have added England to their list of scalps in their adopted home in the UAE, the PCB has been openly engaged in finding Mohsin’s successor.

Dav Whatmore is widely viewed as the favourite for the job. He met with board officials in Lahore a fortnight ago immediately after Mohsin left for the UAE with the Pakistan squad. He was taken to the National Cricket Academy and held talks with the PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf. An appointment is predicted at the end of the one-day series.

Mohsin, asked directly whether he wanted the job full-time after adding a series win against England to successes against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, gave a cryptic reply. “What Mohsin Khan is today is because of Pakistan and Pakistan cricket,” he said. "My services are always there for my country but I don’t want anybody to take me for granted.

“People were saying that performing well against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh was nothing great, okay agreed, but to perform against England, whether they are No. 1 or not, is always creditable.”

If Mohsin does not gain the job full time, he at least expects his candidature to be taken seriously. He took temporary charge earlier this year after Waqar Younis stood down for health reasons. He was among the 30 people who applied for the job, but Ashraf reportedly said he was not qualified to assume the role on a full-time basis.

Mohsin also said he had been the chief advocate of the selection of Asad Shafiq and Azhar Ali, two young players whose maturity in Pakistan’s second innings set up their platform for victory in Abu Dhabi.

“I was the one who selected them because a year and a half back when I became chairman of the selection committee we picked up these two youngsters and I felt they were very talented,” he said. "All the credit goes to the boys because they played well under tough conditions.

“We were hoping for a lead around 225 or 230 but we finished up with much less than that. But I have a lot of belief in these players of mine. I said to my boys if we play proper and disciplined cricket we can get them for 100. It was to give a morale-booster to the boys. I think England went a little bit on the defence, though I am not telling them what they should have done.”

Pakistan yearn for the time when they can stage home Tests again but in a curious way perhaps neutral territory has suited them. Had they gone 1-0 up in Pakistan the temptation would have been to try and create two dead pitches to escape with draws in the last two Tests. Instead, the Sheikh Zayed pitch provided a compelling contest and Pakistan emerged victorious.

“Whenever you play in conditions you are not used to, you face some difficulties,” Misbah said. "When we go to England there are difficulties for us. The confidence our team has gained in the last 18 months is also a big factory. They now believe in themselves.

“Any team batting last on this surface would find it difficult. The way the ball was turning it was hard to play the spinners, so we thought ‘we can put pressure on England, let’s have a try.’ Just bowl wicket to wicket, that is the key here. Some balls were turning, some skidding on and it was really difficult for the batsmen to guess what was happening.”

Pakistan used to be forever asked about spot-fixing. Now they are forever asked if it time to stop talking about spot-fixing. Cricket will not forget so easily but Misbah is convinced that it is time to move on. “It should be,” he said. “Just concentrate on what is happening now. Both teams are playing good cricket in a good atmosphere. Nothing is happening. That’s really good for cricket.”

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