Pakistan's autoimmune disease -- Holy war

It’s fascinating to observe the trend of 6/7 persistant Musharaff (and army) haters who never utter a word to condemn the brutality and ruthlessness of Al-kaida.

The contributing factor in the increasing strength of Jihadists is that the ideology of Al-qaeda is enourmously supported by most (if not all) Wahabis and Wahabified sunnis in Pakistan. These ardent supporters have seeped their way into the army, the intelligence, the institutions, this very forum, you name it.

As far as the ideology of Al-qaeda is concerned, any sect who do not follow their way of extreme, violent islam is “Mushrik” and “Munafiq” and should be killed according to the definition of Jihad. The central dogma of jihadists is to cleanse the world of all mushriks and munafiqs by any means, preferably in a savaged and beastly manner.

It’s basically a hate-based organization and the sequential list of their supposed adversaries or enemies is never-ending, ranging from America, India, Shiites, Qadyani, Agha-khanis, to Non-wahabified moderate sunnis, Khojas, Bohris, christian and hindu minoroties in Pakistan, etc. If the extremism keeps gaining momentum in Pakistan, the consequences would be much more than just closing down girls schools, bombing video shops, killing barbers who shave beards, demolishing billboards that show women’s face, abolishment of co-education, destruction of TV sets, mandatory observance of abaya, etc. Pakistan would be destined to see the worst bloodshed of the world’s history.

The main problem is that a sizable percentage of people do not understand the depth of atrociousness of this community and they secretly sympathize with them. It’s just not their brain-washed barbaric militants that are posing a threat, it’s the environment of intolerance and Hate that they create in the society. “Their cancerous radicalism pits muslims against Muslims, and the whole world in a broader view of the situation.”
Following threat was broadcast from Lal-masjid Fm station on April 12, 07:

“There will be suicide blasts in the nook and cranny of the country. We have weapons, grenades and we are expert in manufacturing bombs. We are not afraid of death….”

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"pin-drop silence". They don't want to except reality. No one who is in power (excepting Qzi, Fazlu, Immi etc.), the jihadis will keep on attacking and destabilizing.

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"Truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it, but, in the end, there it is."

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I condemn the terrorist behavior. I'm all for eradication for these sick people who cause death to send a message, that too amongst their muslim brothers and sisters. The reason Musharraf is hated widely is because he has lost grip over the country and cannot sustain the country's security. Twist it any way you want, the hard truth is HE HAS NOT DIMINISHED TERRORISM IN THE COUNTRY! INFACT IT HAS ONLY INCREASED!

thank you very much.

Now before you generalize about how people think and feel, look within yourself because no one here supports these killers. NO ONE! To be anti-musharraf is not to be Jihadi supporter by default, but if that's what you think, then you're kidding yourself. Moreover, you're clouding your vision.

Oh and since i know so well what one of you will say:

Punjabis hate the Jihadis as much as anyone else. So don't sound pathetic trying to play ethnic variation like you always do. Thanks Khehkeshan.

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Jihadis were convenient tool of army and the ISI...who have been using them as instrument of state policy to export jihad across the globe. So, before you go on with you rantings lets clarify one thing. People who are anti Mushrraf are not necessarily pro jihadis. The jihadi monster was created by army, ISI, and the blame squirrelly lies at feet of our corrupt generals and no one else.

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There is no generalization, it's known very well who is just anti-musharaff because of what seems like his failed policies and who is Pro-terrorism anti-army. My vision is sharp, no worries.

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Just making sure...no hard feelings.

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Understood.

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Well our respected CJ was trying to bring in justice to an extreme extent - even that one which is not even practiced in the west. He put too much emphasis on "missing people" case who were merely arrested. But in the case of MQM - all the suspected terrorists were killed in police encounters (and that was necessary at that time). In jihadies case they have only been arrested. But this CJ sahab should also bear the responsibility of the events that happened in Pakistan during last one year.

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Stubborn CJ!

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If any of the trained soldiers turns against army, he is conveniently dealt with as a "traitor"
Army is not to be blamed.

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Everything has its time. When the timings are right things automatically start falling into place. Musharaff was in enormous pressure from all sides, Last thing he wanted to bring on his plate was getting blamed for being an American ally killing innocent muslims. It would have turned normal peaceful civilians into Jihadists against army (read: American ally)

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I don't think the CJ has anything to do with what is happening in Pakistan now. As a CJ of the country, it was his duty to make sure that law of the land is upheld. If someone is arrested he/she must be produce before the court of law in 48 hours. Thats the law, and there is reason for it. You can't arrest people and lock them up for indefinite time w/o any charges. If this the CJ's crime than I say hang him, but while we're at we at it, we should also hang those who created the jihadis. Let us start with Mushrraf.

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I already answered your query regarding the recruitment and training of jihadists (present day terrorists), in post # 11.

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The Afghan-Russian war, when ppl from over 70 different countries were hired to join the league of good against bad, was a success story of CIA/ISIs colaboration. After that the same Muhajirs started fighting against each other (NA vs. Taliban). They were well known for their animalistic behaviour (and PA/ISI knew best) and after 911 they had new enemies to coupe with. We have once created those barbarians and Afghanistan is been ruled by another elite of such -- The NA.
Even If we destroy the Taliban, the NA comes next.
You see Its a never ending story.

Thanks to America and our own Intelligence.

And yet not every anti-MUsh is to be labeled as pro-radical.
So care to differ.

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so today if we train sceret service commandos, army, navy, and air-force soldiers to defend the country or ideology, and tomorrow they start bombing and brutally killing innocent civilians after getting brain-washed by some psuedo-mullahs. Who would you blame?

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Give up and surrender and you turn into Afghanistan or Iraq. You cannot treat jihadis with kid gloves and expect to survive or win the war.

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^ Agreed

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So mullahs have no part to play in ISI and have had no direct link to Saudi influence on Pak? Interesting. Although many here believe that Bhutto has created these monsters with Babars help. So no wonder Altaf lovers have a different view on this.

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Yes you can kill them in police encounters!