I don't think so. Madam Noorjehan also sung some Punjabi songs like 'Akh ladi baddo badi, moqa mile kaddi kaddi', they were not resented and even remixed by PTV during restriction period. People liked 'Ud kothe aa to kanwan we' and even 'aween rusiya na kar meri jaan' by Naseebo Laal in Punjabi. So language is not the problem IMO..
I am not talkjing about son gs like 'Uth kothay uttun kaawan vay'. I am talking about Item type songs.
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I was talking about Nargis's dance moves on stage shows and not her costumes.
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I am not talkjing about son gs like 'Uth kothay uttun kaawan vay'. I am talking about Item type songs.
There were lot of item songs in Pakistani old movies like 'Bijli bhari hai mere ang ang main','naram gulabi sham hai' in Naheed Akhtar's voice, but didn't sound or picturised in the manner giving bad taste. They were catchy numbers unlike 'pyar di ganderi' te 'sawan di haneri' which are just too much.
I think these songs are given to the stage actresses they can make them vulgar by their moves.
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Sorry, I couldn't get your comment for Rakhi Sawant being allergic to clothes.
I am not at all defending Nargis, or deedar, or any of them.
But when I have to pick anyone in level of vulgarity, then I don't see a difference between bollywood actresses, who do practically everything on the big screen, show as much as skin as possible and between Nargis and co. who make vulgar moves while dancing on stage.
I know what the topic of this thread is, i.e. vulgarity in pakistani theatre (dances).
But it makes no sense to me that people are against that, while they do watch immodest bollywood films religiously.
I am not at all defending Nargis, or deedar, or any of them.
But when I have to pick anyone in level of vulgarity, then I don't see a difference between bollywood actresses, who do practically everything on the big screen, show as much as skin as possible and between Nargis and co. who make vulgar moves while dancing on stage.
I know what the topic of this thread is, i.e. vulgarity in pakistani theatre (dances).
But it makes no sense to me that people are against that, while they do watch immodest bollywood films religiously.
I got your point. Immodesty should be condemned regardless of whoever commit it. Be it Veena Malik or Rakhi Sawant.
Pakistan needs strip clubs, mujray ki motian bohat bardasht kar leen
Jo karte hain karne do and let the market forces decide. If this is what the masses want who are we to stop them.
No. Please no. I still have a load of Pakistaniyat left within myself which is going to vanish the minute they not only welcome but legalise this beghairti back home. I wouldn't want anything to do with the place if it comes to that.
I'm not oblivious to the fact that it happens behind closed doors but no need to welcome it in the open, thankyouverymuch. If you can't prevent it, fine, don't promote it either. That's like saying there's no cure for cancer so let's not try to stop the tumour from spreading, it's going to kill you one day anyway.
Also, how do we know this is what the masses want? Someone posted a news article in one of the above posts that said it was because of public demand that the police raided a theatre where all of this stuff was supposedly going on. That goes to show abhi thori buhat ghairat baki hai hamari public mein. The recent bans on stuff like wearing low cut tops in theatres were also implemented due to public pressure... they raised awareness and the authorities took the necessary action. Then look at the state of our film industry... why isn't it successful? Why has it gone down the drain? Because people don't watch that crap. So I feel it's definitely wrong to say yup most if not all Pakistanis want this... heck no, I sure hope not.
the morality issues cant be solved by policing.........it needs education and tarbeeyat of the population......... you stop one thing, another one will pop up, so on and so forth......
No. Please no. I still have a load of Pakistaniyat left within myself which is going to vanish the minute they not only welcome but legalise this beghairti back home. I wouldn't want anything to do with the place if it comes to that.
I'm not oblivious to the fact that it happens behind closed doors but no need to welcome it in the open, thankyouverymuch. If you can't prevent it, fine, don't promote it either. That's like saying there's no cure for cancer so let's not try to stop the tumour from spreading, it's going to kill you one day anyway.
Also, how do we know this is what the masses want? Someone posted a news article in one of the above posts that said it was because of public demand that the police raided a theatre where all of this stuff was supposedly going on. That goes to show abhi thori buhat ghairat baki hai hamari public mein. The recent bans on stuff like wearing low cut tops in theatres were also implemented due to public pressure... they raised awareness and the authorities took the necessary action. Then look at the state of our film industry... why isn't it successful? Why has it gone down the drain? Because people don't watch that crap. So I feel it's definitely wrong to say yup most if not all Pakistanis want this... heck no, I sure hope not.
I was joking about the strip clubs, but not about accepting what people are doing. If you're going to clamp down on such establishments, they'll go deeper into the underground increasing the chances of women performers being exploited even more. The secrecy would prevent victims from going up to the authorities to report any kind of harassment at work. Cause I don't think it can be shut down completely, unless of course they Taliban take over.
Nomi, I'm suggesting what NOT to do i.e. further promote it because I don't believe this is what the majority of Pakistanis want. What the government perhaps should do is introduce a censor board for theatres. If there's already such a board, they sure as hell aren't doing a good job, so the government needs to re-introduce it with stricter regulations. All scripts should be reviewed by this board before the producers even get the permission to go ahead with the production. All plays should be closely monitored by either the law enforcement authorities or the members of the censor board. If something questionable is being said/done in the play, all those responsible including the actors, producers, directors should be thrown into the jail or fined heavily or be banned from being a part of any theatre group for a certain length of time. I think this fine thing is already in place but the successful outcome of such regulations depends solely on the removal of corruption from the authorities overlooking it all. And TLK bhai is spot on about the daku type financiers.. the government also needs to put some money into reviving the theatre so that decent producers would be willing to invest in decent plays.
Saeed, I don't care if people want to watch pornographic DVDs at home, jo karna hai karo, but I am against welcoming/legalising the public shows, clubs etc. You're right, people will still find a way to organise these shows.... but just because there are thriving black markets of heroine, cocaine etc doesn't mean the developed world should simply legalise the drug trade and cash in on it. Why does everything have to be about profit? As for exploitation of women, there are many help centres for females in Pakistan and we could help create more. Again, the protection of women not only in this trade but even in cases of domestic abuse, depends solely on how honest and reliable the authorities are.
so people are not supposed to know about thing they don’t like