Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb

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Historians will disagree with you. ;)

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Re: Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb

Guys, I think all governments need to keep an eye on discussion forums, because usually Talibanic fasaadis show themselves up pretty clearly by posting their destructive anti-Islam pro-Taliban thoughts.

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Historians will disagree with WHAT?

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With your poor generalized understanding of the Afghan situation.

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right. so the reason you call the theory stupid, i.e. the bomb was not sophisticated, all I am asking is why that doesnt apply in the case where 'they' are doing a false flag operation.

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they don't need a BIG incident to instill FEAR, did they not succeed in that already "ffs".. and if they wanted they could of pulled off a false flag like 9/11 but i guess they're looking to weaken pakistan even more.

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the bomb doesnt have to go off does it. they could instill FEAR while not giving you relatively shallow clues like why is the bomb simplistic/amateurish. i mean its a basic detail right, something they would have to think about in planning all this. why did they choose to go with a failed unsophisticated bomb as opposed to a failed sophisticated bomb, thereby giving the truthseekers one less hint?

picture this conversation.. (just to focus the conversation)

They A: So we put a bomb in an SUV in times square, pin it on Faisal Shahzad
They B: Brilliant brilliant, Im with you so far. And we're saying hes had training in peshawar so thats going to come in handy. We dont need another 9/11 so we'll just make the bomb faulty.
They A: Yes, so a simple bomb right, with fireworks and propane and the wrong kind of fertilizer right?
They B: Why?
They A: ______

now give the reason They A will give in this simplistic scenario. This is what Im rather persistently asking you to give... some rationale for if its illogical for something to occur in the case where faisal shehzad did it, its not illogical for it to occur if it was a false flag operation.

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awww sheesh, you don't think FBI or the ISI (fasadis as you call them) are on these forums? Come on man, your not THAT simple minded are you?

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maybe JUST maybe they used such amateurish bomb to push their agenda even further. you know even some truthseekers will believe this was caused by the Pakistani because it was amateurish. :rolleyes:

btw I didn’t get a single comment from you in regards the Austin plane crash:
The 2010 Austin plane crash occurred on February 18, 2010, when Andrew Joseph Stack III, flying his Piper Dakota, crashed into Building I of the Echelon office complex in Austin, Texas, United States,[4] killing himself and Internal Revenue Service manager Vernon Hunter.[5] Thirteen others were injured, two seriously. The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) field office was located in a four-storey[6][7] office building along with other state and federal government agencies.[8] Prior to the crash, Stack had posted a suicide note dated February 18, 2010 to his business website.

what if that white man was a Pakistani?

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Re: Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb

^ May be this is your murderous "understanding" that incites you to support anti-Islam munafiqeen who show great pride in the killings of anyone who disagrees with them, whether Muslim or not.

I am sure Shahzad was also waging his self-proclaimed "jihad" by trying to killing innocent people, very similar to what Talibanic munafiqeen do in Pakistan.

There was no US when Taliban were waging fasaad against Muslims of Afghanistan. And now they say that their struggle is only against US. Just shows their munafiqat and Islam-dushmani.

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They may be. But I hope Pakistani ISI also keep an eye on Taliban-supporters on discussion forums. Because they are either future terrorists or terrorism supporters.

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Back it up with evidence meri jaan!

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Oh, so now you getting gay like Talibans?! What's with this meri-jaan stuff?

Off course, there was not US when Taliban were waging fasaad against Afghan Muslims. Actually, evidence should come from YOU if you disagree.

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By the help of Allah, Taliban and their supporters are exposed now in the eyes of all Pakistanis. Gone are the days when majority of Pakistanis supported Taliban. Their remnants today are waging losing battle.
This is a sign of divine justice.

Al-Jazeera English reported earlier that **5 men had been arrested between Karachi and Peshawar. ** Tavernise said the first man detained in Karachi is connected with Shahzad - they traveled to traveled to Peshawar together. The man was arrested at a mosque with alleged ties to militant group Jaish-e-Mohammad. AJE Pakistan correspondent Kamal Hyder said Pakistani authorities were shifting their focus now to the Northwest Frontier Province, an area marked by lawlessness and militancy. Hyder reports that the Pakistani Ministry of the Interior has committed to cooperating with the US on an investigation of a possible network of Pakistani players connected to detained suspect Faisal Shahzad. Shahzad has said he acted alone. Hyder said Pakistani intelligence is investigating possible links between the detained men and Shahzad as well as the detained men and terrorist groups, including the Pakistani Taliban.

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aw man, your not in touch with you culture? where's the patriotism? meri jaan is used loosely amongst some guys in Pakistan, ever been there?

LOL why should it come from me? You should bring evidence because you accuse them. It's like America accusing Osama bin Laden for 9/11 when they have no evidence. :p

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so you’re saying it makes it more believable that Faisal did it because it was amateurish? doesnt it seem much easier to have a coherent narrative rather than one with inconsistencies, especially when you’re in control of whats said? doesnt it make sense that you would just claim that Faisal got his expertise, and made a competant bomb, endof.

people who would believe They did it would believe that regardless. people who dont would fall for the competant bomb just as much as the incompetant one.

this happens in every conspiracy theory. you find some kind of apparent rational inconsistency and posit as a solution a conspiracy theory, but then fail to map the original inconsistency to this theory.

it would have been a huge deal. there is no question that islamophobia has a huge role in how an event is covered and how the state is reacting to it. I am sure that if Andrew Joseph had survived he would not have been charged with an attack using WMD, as this guy has laughably been charged with.

there is a double standard on nutjobs for sure.

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ravage, you're trying to use logic with someone who clearly supports these acts in Pakistan and outside of Pakistan but is afraid of coming out and saying so.

imho, you're banging your head against a wall of hypocrisy and stupidity.

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right :rolleyes: accuse of me such things and then hurl insults at me later, good job keeping the peace :k:

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crick:

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LOL why should it come from me? You should bring evidence because you accuse them.
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I am saying that US was not present when Taliban waged fasaad against Afghan Muslims. And so it is munafiqat from Taliban and their supporters to now say that their struggle is against US foreign occupation.
If you disagree that US was present at that time then you need to bring evidence, not me.

And it is TALIBAN claiming responsibility for this cowardly attack, and it is Shahzad himself accepting it. So now it should be you giving some evidence about why Taliban did not do it.

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aw man, your not in touch with you culture? where's the patriotism? meri jaan is used loosely amongst some guys in Pakistan, ever been there?
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beta, I am from Pakistan. No need to tell me about my own culture.
I guess you have been too close to Talibanic bachha-bazi. This is why you are into using such terms.

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I never said that US was present. All I dispute is "Taliban were causing fasaad". They were other factions like NA and other communist fronts.

as for TTP, if you've been following my posts throughout this forum, I go on and on differentiating between the two just like Taliban leader Mullah Omar has distanced himself from TTP.

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Difference is that all others were NOT calling their war a "jihad". It was only Taliban who were waging fasaad against Muslims in the name of jihad. It also shows that Taliban claim of fighting against kafir US occupiers is false. Because they were fighting in Afghanistan even when US was not there.

And to call ALL non-Taliban people of Afghanistan is a blatant lie. But it is expected from someone who knows nothing about the fundamentals of Islam. جھوٹ بولتے ہوۓ ذرا بھی شرم نہیں آتی؟

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as for TTP, if you've been following my posts throughout this forum, I go on and on differentiating between the two just like Taliban leader Mullah Omar has distanced himself from TTP.
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If you are distancing yourself from Taliban then what is your problem in believing that Talibanic fasaadis were involved in this anti-Islam act?