why wouldnt the illuminati use (or say there was) a more sophisticated bomb? why leave these loose threads for you to pull?
i mentioned illuminati cuz on that new TTP video of mehsud there are illuminati symbolism.. i guess just to attack the satan worshippers more? dunno?
crick:
Not only did that lunatic accept the charge against him but Talibanic fanatics themselves accepted responsibility, WITHOUT being tortured or held in custody.
Stop siding with anti-Islam evil-doers. You have to die one day and be answerable to Allah.
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dude I don't care what the TTP claim responsibility of and I don't care if TTP die a horrible death by hanging, blown to pieces whatever.
BUT
it doesn't mean we accept EVERYTHING these people (governments) say! Innocent men are being locked up and your saying let's go after more? come on!
i mentioned illuminati cuz on that new TTP video of mehsud there are illuminati symbolism.. i guess just to attack the satan worshippers more? dunno?
well forget illuminati, whoever it is that is running the show and staged this, why dont you take that one step further in your version and explain why they would stage it in the manner it happened.
the holes you pick in Faisal Shehzad doing it apply equally to someone staging the event doing it too. Especially since they are in control of the situation so can claim pretty much anything they want right? So why claim something cricketplaya would find holes in?
well forget illuminati, whoever it is that is running the show and staged this, why dont you take that one step further in your version and explain why they would stage it in the manner it happened.
the holes you pick in Faisal Shehzad doing it apply equally to someone staging the event doing it too. Especially since they are in control of the situation so can claim pretty much anything they want right? So why claim something cricketplaya would find holes in?
9/11 > Blame Osama > Invade Afghanistan > Still no evidence > Kill kill kill
Saddam > WMDs in Iraq > Invade Iraq > No WMDs evidence > Kill kill kill
It is not just these "people" that are saying it but also Talibanic fasadis THEMSELVES are claiming the responsibility.
Not everyone is innocent.
I don't know who to believe? First they release a video saying yes we did it, then they release a statement saying no we didn't and now they say yes we did. Anyways, forget TTP for a second.
Think of the innocent.
THE MAJORITY of the prisoners are innocent. Ask their family members who still holding onto their pictures and hoping that their munafiq leaders will help out. They have false hope because they know it was their own leaders who sold their family for a few dollar$. Shame on them and those who support such crimes.
crick:
ah, so now you are talking about Talibanic fasadi invasion of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Ah, so your the one who fell for the 9/11 hoax and Iraqi WMDs hoax and now you'll fall for anything.
add to that mix that persucution of Muslims to follow in NA and Europe, home grown "rebels"... burqaposh wished he was in Antartica.
you're not answering my question despite me repeating it. i understand that you have your reasons for guessing it is illuminati, and I understand you have your reasons for why illuminati would stage it.
my question pertains to the basis on which you say the illuminati or any similar organization did it i.e. logical loopholes in the specifics of the event. just complete your theory and explain why the illuminati would leave behind these logical loopholes for you given that they are in control of this situation, since there is no explosion they can claim pretty much anything they want. but they go the funny route of saying it was only firecrackers with propane gas and wrong type of fertilizer.
you're not answering my question despite me repeating it. i understand that you have your reasons for guessing it is illuminati, and I understand you have your reasons for why illuminati would stage it.
my question pertains to the basis on which you say the illuminati or any similar organization did it i.e. logical loopholes in the specifics of the event. just complete your theory and explain why the illuminati would leave behind these logical loopholes for you given that they are in control of this situation, since there is no explosion they can claim pretty much anything they want. but they go the funny route of saying it was only firecrackers with propane gas and wrong type of fertilizer.
woah sherlock hold on a sec, where did I mention that "illuminati" did "it" ??? All I said was in that video TTP "released" they used illuminati symbolism. anyways that wasn't important.
and as to why they would carry out such an event? To cause hysteria, fear and to divert attention from the REAL problems at HOME. They know they are failing as a country, they're going bankrupt, natural disasters are not helping either, 2 full wars aren't helping, unemployment rate is at 21%+, people are getting fed up... you know all this.
If you ask me they want to invade Pakistan? Allah knows best.
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First they release a video saying yes we did it, then they release a statement saying no we didn't and now they say yes we did. Anyways, forget TTP for a second.
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There is no way to forget Talibanic fasadi claims and accept yours. You are saying that this terrorist was tortured to accept responsibility. But where is the proof of torture in this case?
On the other hand, Talibanic lunatics themselves accepted responsibility, thus agreeing with this NY terrorist's claim.
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THE MAJORITY of the prisoners are innocent.
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I don't want to argue about the "majority" part of your statement. All I say right now is that NOT ALL of them are innocent. Especially those who DON'T deny their terrorist acts, like this NY terrorist.
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Ah, so your the one who fell for the 9/11 hoax and Iraqi WMDs hoax and now you'll fall for anything.
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No. I saw Talibanic fasadis attacking Afghani Muslims when there was NO U.S. anywhere. And again I saw their fasadi brethren invading Pakistani Muslims.
no no, you're still explaining motivations for why they engineer false flag operations. Im asking about the basis on which you say that its more plausible that whoever 'they' is did it... the flaws you find in the specifics of the operation.
here we go:
this theory makes more sense to me than a random Pakistani man got training from Pakistan and flew here, lived with his wife and 2 kids, and thought of pulling off this amateur so-called bomb. jeez, you'd think he'd build a more sophisticated bomb with the "training" if this was a bit close to reality eh?
This is what Im asking you. 'They' have the cooperation of atleast, the FBI, NYPD etc. Staging the event and extorting a false confession must've been a fairly large operation. Given that they are going through this trouble, explain why they wouldnt claim something that would be more realistic for you? You find it illogical that someone with bomb training would do that, fine, why would someone engineering this false flag operation do it?
Where is the proof for this case you’re posting about other than what “he” believed to have “said” ?
You saw with your own eyes? Nice, let us know what you saw.
Again your going in circles here.
and on what basis it’s more plausible? hmm let’s see all those reasons I listed:
Were they successful in diverting attention of the masses even for a little while? I bet yes. Did they succeed in causing more hatred towards Muslims / Pakistanis? yes!
This no way denying that some American who happens to be from Pakistan was fed up of his life and tried to blow up in retaliation. Who knows?It happened in Austin couple months ago..
I imagine if that guy was a Pakistani and a Muslim, oo lala same reaction I bet.
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Where is the proof for this case you're posting about other than what "he" believed to have "said" ?
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Proof is his acceptance AND Taliban's taking responsibility. There may be more.
Now where is YOUR proof that his confession was forced?
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You saw with your own eyes? Nice, let us know what you saw.
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Yes, I saw the pictures, watched television, read newspapers, and listened to radio. I KNOW that Taliban waged "jihad" against Muslims of Afghanistan EVEN BEFORE the U.S. entered the scene.
and on what basis it's more plausible? hmm let's see all those reasons I listed:
oh ffs. you're listing reasons for why they would engineer a false operation. I am asking for reasons for why they would conduct this false operation in the manner you find to be illogical.
the 'it' in the bolded part doesnt refer to operation in itself, but the specific detail that you found illogical, i.e. someone with the training not building a more sophisticated bomb.
that was in response to the stupid theory of some group in Pakistan training him.
they don’t need a BIG incident to instill FEAR, did they not succeed in that already “ffs”.. and if they wanted they could of pulled off a false flag like 9/11 but i guess they’re looking to weaken pakistan even more.
man what am I missing on CNN these days. Let me go find the remote.
What an idiot!! He is from an educated upper middle class family. He and his wife both got their education from USA and this is how he ended up. A high class moron. Not only he has managed to make life miserable for himself and his family but also created difficulties for other Pakistanis who currently live or want to come to USA in future.
man what am I missing on CNN these days. Let me go find the remote.