Pakistani public on streets - protests against loadshedding

so people finally come on streets to protest against load-shedding but as usual protests are violent, vehicles/properties are on fire :smack:, and PML-N joins the halla gulla.

Its very disturbing that so much power is shut off all of sudden, nuclear reactors are running into “technical issues”, HUBCO and KAPCO are offline. The difference in demand and production has exceeded 8,000MW, some areas running into 20 hours of load-shedding, my God!!!

Is it new definition for height of incompetence?

Should the protesters be protesting in front of power producing companies or should they be protesting in front of their local MNAs/MPAs? or a gherao of Parliament/Presidency?

http://www.dawn.com/2011/10/04/power-riots-engulf-more-cities-towns-in-punjab.html

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**ISLAMABAD: Faced with an energy crisis requiring long-term structural change, Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani has opted for the quick-fix solution of closing businesses and shops. The PM has asked the ministry of water and power to persuade the provinces that two-day weekly holidays and shop closures at 8pm will overcome the load-shedding crisis which has led to countrywide protest.

**http://tribune.com.pk/story/266438/pso-finally-paid-to-switch-the-lights-back-on/

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this is wht PM did!! … but this is not a permanant solution, this wont solve the prob!
no doubt the govt has failed to overcome the crises in last 3.5 yrs! but ppl are just so irresponsible! they need to learn to conserve energy …
ppl need to start paying taxes and stop stealing electricity! …

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How many peoples have awareness of saving the enegy!! The govt. Alright we already know what tthey are doing its out of their hands and capability to solve the problem now or in future. As per
My personal knowledge we don't care how to use and save our small amount of energy. Kunda bazi
And over use of it also counting to solve this issue.
Just one light of a room or turn off the AC or maintain it using on that day Wheather, Timer etc etc
Could save a lot of energy. Qatron qatron se Dariya banta hai agar ham iski afadiat ko samjhen.

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it is the government's and electricity companies' responsibility that they collect proper taxes and stop theft of electricity. People follow regulations when properly applied.

Why do people follow all traffic rules when they use the motorway in Pakistan and forget about them as soon as they get off it? They are the same people of same country demonstrating two different behaviors depending on the systems they are using.

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true tht Kakabili!! ...

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i would say bring back the great raja pervaiz ashraf and more rental power plants..lols

on a serious note its the government that drives ppl to kunda system..just like govt. collects other taxes..i.e. those who give tax..just squeeze them more instad of broadening the base of tax collection.
ppl who give electricity bills are given more bills next time and ones who dont give bill enjoy the luxury..wat kind of justice is that?

besides those who do kunda system do it with the help of wapda ppl.

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I have never seen loadshedding like this before, in Lahore the loadshedding has been in the tune of 16-18 hours. This means that in 3 and a half years the crisis has become more severe. As far as PMLN is cocnerned their politics is opportune, they want to get political mileage through this issue.

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^^ No they can't, The feds have not paid the bill, that is why the crisis, if today or tomorrow they pay it off, the supply shall be resumed hence substantial decrease in load-shedding...

Anyway, PPP is punishing Punjab for not voting them in... so the suffering will continue... be it Gas, Fuel or Electricity...

If PPP govt had been serious in solving the crisis, they could have done it by now, having Run-of-River hydro projects in GB would have not only lowered the cost of electricity and Pakistan would have enough cheap electricity to export... but in this scenario, the commissions of the OIL Mafia would have hit real hard and they might have gone out of business.. hence govt decided to leave the project as it...

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Really? So LESCO is under PPP control? what about Gunjranwala Electric Supply Corporation? Devolved funds go directly to the provincial governments now, why is this problem particular to Punjab? Is the provincial government responsible for anything at all, other than waiting for kursi?

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^^ I really wonder if you know anything about power generation and distribution?

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^^ Apparently you do, so kindly answer the questions at hand than resorting to generalizations and broadsides.

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^^ I am not going to waste time typing a tutor on Power Distribution and Generation, please google it, educate yourself on the issue and then comment...

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I never expected a reply for these questions from you anyway. Please do away with the pretense of discussing issues and not worshiping political parties or abhoring partisans.

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MNA, MPAs i guess…

Let the MNA and MPAs tell their leadership that they are feeling the heat and cannot enter their constituencies…

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All the power distribution sector is under the control of federal government.. including Lesco.. Provincial government at present has nothing to do with power generation/distribution..

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strangely no loadshedding since morning...how come PEPCO has got surplus electricity all of a sudden .

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Finally after Everyone put fire on Lesco office here at my side in Lahore.......Electricity is bit stable now else they would cut it off for 4 hours consective after 1 hour

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I don't know whether it was WC final or something like that, no loadshedding through out the country...

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Yeah no load shedding happened Durinf the Finals and Semis on WC09

and then again in Semis on 2011 WC

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PMLN trying to hijack the power protests. The “long march master” wants to adopt a short cut to grasp power, I dont know what the result of all this will be in terms of national unity as well as the international situation involving Pakistan-American row. As Americans might try to cash in on any disunity and chaos in the country.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/10/04/pml-n-going-for-all-out-confrontation.html

PML-N going for all-out confrontation By Amir Wasim & Khawar Ghumman | From the Newspaper

**ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Muslim League-N chief Nawaz Sharif upped the ante in the policy of confronting the PPP-led government head-on that he now appears to be pursuing when he called upon his party workers on Monday to join the agitation against power outages and to mobilise the street in order to highlight corruption and the government’s “failure ****to resolve the energy crisis”.

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Mr Sharif gave the call at the first meeting of the party’s Central Working Committee (CWC) at the Punjab House. He later chaired a meeting of the PML-N parliamentary party at the Parliament House, giving the go-ahead for protests inside and outside the parliament during the current National Assembly session.

Sources told Dawn that during the two back-to-back meetings, which spanned six hours, Mr Sharif found a rare consensus that a now-or-never situation had arrived and the PML-N had no option but to go for a final thrust to dislodge the PPP-led government.

It was perhaps after getting encouragement from the massive street protests in different Punjab cities that the PML-N members reached a consensus that the party should cash in on the situation and make an effort to convert the present agitation into a fully-fledged movement against the government.

Although the party managed to finalise a short-term agitation plan, the leadership failed to come up with a roadmap for an anti-government movement.

According to the sources, a number of speakers said the people generally believed that the PML-N had not played its role as an opposition and it was because of the party’s wrong strategy that the present rulers were enjoying “complete freedom in plunder and corruption”.

Some of the speakers, including Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif, were of the view that if the party did not act this time, the people would consider them hand in glove with the present rulers and the PML-N would not be able to escape their wrath.

“Today they are protesting against the (federal) government. It will continue for four days. But if we remain silent, then on the fifth day, the protesters will turn against us and on the sixth day, the people will be holding us from our collars,” one of the participants quoted the Punjab chief minister as having said in a sombre mood.

Shahbaz Sharif’s portentous remarks got complete support from two firebrand MNAs, Khwaja Saad Rafique and Khwaja Mohammad Asif, who suggested to the party leadership that the PML-N should own the present demonstrations being held in different cities against loadshedding, the inside sources said. During the meeting, the sources said, Mr Rafique passed some derogatory remarks against President Asif Ali Zardari and warned the participants that Mr Zardari would flee the country the moment things turned critical.

It was after a fiery speech by Mr Rafique that Nawaz Sharif asked the MNA from Lahore to consult some party members and prepare a protest plan for the party, which he did.

Mr Rafique proposed that PML-N legislators should lodge a protest inside the National Assembly through fiery speeches, wearing black armbands and by staging walkouts. Moreover, the MNA proposed, the PML-N parliamentarians should organise demonstrations with the support of other opposition parties outside the Presidency and the Prime Minister House during the current week.

Some of the participants, including Nawaz Sharif, remembered the late chairperson of the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP), Benazir Bhutto, in good words, recalling the PML-N had jointly struggled with her for “true democracy” and not for the one the country had now.