Re: Pakistani poverty in the UK, but Indians doing well.
Many are stuck in the benefits trap. They get more in benefits than their education would ever allow them to earn. It's not just Pakistanis and Bangladeshis though, plenty of gora are the same. If you go North to towns such as Oldham, or Bradford, you will find people who have not worked for 20,30 years or more.
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More statistics read them in detail here,
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plenty of gora are the same. If you go North to towns such as Oldham, or Bradford, you will find people who have not worked for 20,30 years or more.
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Yes indeed and many Sikhs, Hindus etc too. The problem though is why is there such a disproportionate amount of Pakistanis in poor health, more likely to be unemployed and generally be relying on handouts to get by???
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2013 sikhs don't have a country of their own, and that's a statistic no one can deny.
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2013 sikhs don't have a country of their own, and that's a statistic no one can deny.
Rommel no need to be so harsh. I don't know about Indian's or Sikhs in UK but from what I know...many Pakistani families are claiming welfare by claiming low incomes but they are actually living well off. This I have seen just in 2 visits to the UK...
I am a Pakistani btw.
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One more reason is Muslims spend more on halal food.
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your report is from 2001 that is desperate to say the least.
whats your next insight from 1979
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Rommel I posted articles from 2009, 2010, and 2011, yet you still don't wish to discuss the topic at hand.
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Rommel no need to be so harsh. I don't know about Indian's or Sikhs in UK but from what I know...many Pakistani families are claiming welfare by claiming low incomes but they are actually living well off. This I have seen just in 2 visits to the UK...
I am a Pakistani btw.
I wouldn't bother to call Rommels comments harsh but they are entriely irrelevant to this topic. Rommel why not start a seperate topic about a Sikh homeland and get back to the topic here.
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One more reason is Muslims spend more on halal food.
You're not serious are you??? Are you honestly suggesting that these Pakistani benefit claimants would rely on the British (majority non-Muslim) tax payer to pay for their housing bills etc so they can spend their money on Halal meat?
If that is the case why aren't there similar patterns for Turkish or Arabic Muslims etc??? Why do they manage to support themselves.
I can see why some would rather brush this topic under the carpet but surely it is an important topic to discuss isn't it?
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^Why are you dividing the muslim community into arab turkish and pakistani? you have some warped agenda it seems.
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Hi Saif,
Rommel will certainly say I have some sort of agenda. You and others have to decide for yourself.
The original links from various sources say that Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are more likely to be unemployed,more like to rely on the taxpayer to pay their bills,and more likely to be in poorer health. The question is why is that? What separates these communities from other groups like Jews, Hindus and Sikhs who generally do very well economically.
Poppi suggested the reason maybe that Muslims spend more money on halal meat, so why aren't all Muslims in the same boat? Why are Pakistanis and Bangladeshis poorer than these other groups?
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muslims in general, have become sullen and angry at the daily taunts on their religion.
they have become more introverts, prefering to stay in their own religious groups and avoiding outside influences. There is a seige mentality prevailing, especially for overseas pakistanis. BDs.
This is sad, as they get more into religion and further alienate themselves.
education and further education is the only way forward.
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Bus bhi Karo yaar. Jyaada hi ho gaya.
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Should this conversation not be discussed then Southie? Surely brushing such issues under the carpet makes the situation worse doesn't it? I know its can be a controversial topic but only if we allow it to become one.
Sometimes with human nature we wish to cover such issues up or blame it on the usual suspects like racism but there is alot to it.
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It is complicated. Just got a story in the email yesterday that
50% of Indians do not have access to toilet. The corresponding number for Bangladeshis? 8%.
The middle and upper class in India is most insensitive to plight of poor.
My stomach churned when this topic(this thread) was being beaten to death. Maybe I was out of place in my earlier post.
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A few days ago 400,000 pounds were found in cash from a British-Pakistani.... top that.
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This video is about people from India
So not all Pakistanies are poor and not all Indians are doing very well here!
(As someone just pointed out:)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=562190160505978&set=vb.180643131969850&type=2&theater
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It is complicated. Just got a story in the email yesterday that
50% of Indians do not have access to toilet.
what a made up story. i have been to parts of india where if you aren't careful you will step on someone's toilet. 100% free access to everyone.
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Not at all Southie.
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Should this conversation not be discussed then Southie? Surely brushing such issues under the carpet makes the situation worse doesn't it? I know its can be a controversial topic but only if we allow it to become one. Sometimes with human nature we wish to cover such issues up or blame it on the usual suspects like racism but there is alot to it.
Consider how it would go down if a Pakistani went to an Indian forum and started posting statistics on India's many failings. Just try it for fun, pretend your Pakistani and go talk about some of India's issues on an Indian forum.
You may very well be a sincere person, but human nature is such that when people with whom you have a history of hostility bring up issues that concern you, you tend to be distrustful.
Personally i agree with your assessment, andI think its better to own up to it then try to deny it. But you will find hostility in bringing it up simply by virtue of the fact that you are Indian... I cant change that, its the way it is between Pakistanis and Indians.