Pakistani Police And Authorities, Wiping Kalima from Ahmadiyya Mosque

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I am neither Admadi, nor anti-Ahmadi.
Its my birth right, to be whatever I want to be.
Choice is mine.

Good for you. But be practical. There will always be sects.

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good 4 u 2

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for you. But be practical. There will always be sects.
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ahaan .. being practical doesn't make any thing right ...

there r so many things which r being practiced ... all r right ???

KheeRe aur kheRiyaaN
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There will always be sects, accept it. There is not so much wrong about it either. As long as people have brains, they will think differently. You cannot make everybody think alike. Don't shoot for impossible. Just give people right to practice as they feel right.

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I agreee with u 1000%

It's all about confusing people.

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They can practise what they want to but not with the feelings and religions of OTHER people. They have been expelled and they will remain like that.

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I never said I have good knowledge of sects. I also never said that I call my self Ahamdi first and then Muslim...THIS IS WRONG AND A LIE. Let me clear this for you. Every Ahmadi is a Muslims first then Ahmadi. And this does not mean I follow an ordinary person. I only follow Holy Prophet SAW and what he prophesized.

Hence I believe in ALL arkaane ISLAM.....

If you look your self closely then you are more divided then I am. We have a Khalifa and we all (Ahmadis) follow his command at once. Its you who are divided and without any sence of guidance. I hope I have clarified the points you raised without hurting your feelings. :)

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LOLzz...this is a childish talk...dont mind but what feelings of yours are being hurted?...its our feelings you are hurting....our Kalima is being erased and you so called Muslims are being happy bunny about this...loook at the video again with full volume....you ll hear people crying in the background and this is called love of Allah and Rasool SAW.

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It would be better if people followed command of God and his Prophet (PBUH).

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I agree 100% these people are just kaafir so y do they have the kalima up?

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Next time someone in the UK will also say that these muslims are just heathens so why they are talking about Moses or Jesus from their Quran?

I hope you'll like it when the shoe is on the other foot and the polcie come to shut down your masjids.

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^ good point.
so its ok for muslims to use something from christanity (Jesus, Moses),
but not ok for Ahmadis to use something from Islam (Kalima).

I dont think anybody will reply now. They, either convinved by what you said, or ran out of arguments hence chose to ignore.

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There is a subtle distinction..., using symbolism , concept & ideas is one thing ..., using symbolism to deceive or falsely proclaim a certain identity is another.
while using common symbols & having shared reverence for certain personalities serves as bridges b/w people of different faith , 'Identity Theft' can cause conflict.

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But since Ahmadis believe in Kalma, whats wrong with displaying it.

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At last you said and accepted it that you have different Kalima than Islam actually say. =)

everybody has their own thought to weep for.. Whats not right isnt right and you will soon accept it too.

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because it actually happened. Moses and Jesus are also prophet and in Islam it is also said to respect their religion and not to any new self said prophet. I hope you may know what any why Islam came and why we should believe in Islam and not Christianity.

Scales
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to give you a Worldly example, what wrong if anybody buy a degree and then just rename the owner or the person who was rewarded with it. Would you still think as a professional in that field?

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hmm.. which kalima are we talking about here Robert? have u had a peek?

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It was not possible to edit out everything, lots of posts have been removed for this reason, some of which may have comtained, thoughts relevant to topic in addition to off-topic, personal content, but as i said, it was too much to edit out.

Plz don't get personal and cool down.
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quoted for truth. Just because I don't agree with them, doesn't really allow me to tell them to change their beliefs. It's not that hard to understand.

It is sad, that this is going on in Pakistan. How would Qaid react to what happened?

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Constitution of Pakistan 1973
Pakistan Penal Code
Section 298-C

Person of Qadiani group etc. calling himself a Muslim or preaching or propagating his faith. -- Any person of the Qadiani group or the Lahori group (who call themselves Ahmadis or by any other name) who directly or indirectly poses himself as a Muslim or call or refers to his faith as Islam or preaches or propagates his faith or invites others to accept his faith by words either spoken or written or by visible representations, or any manner whatsoever outrages the religious feelings of Muslims, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three years and shall also be liable to fine.

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As per this section of Pakistan Penal Code for an Ahmedi to even call their place of workship as mosque or use symbolism that can be considered to be deceivingly similar to Islam is prohibited.

Now, I am not going to render my opinion on whether this law is just or not - the fact is that it is the law of the land- if the ahmedi community believes that this law is inhumane or unislamic they have every right to challenge the law in Supreme court , federal Shariat Court or lobby for ammending or removing these sections from the constitution of Pakistan