Pakistani muslims condemn Homosexual ceremony in Islamabad

[Enigmatic]

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@Enigmatic

So we know what is wrong what is right anyway. Coming to hosting a GLBT party by the American ambassador - open your eyes..just another trick of the American Govt to spark controversy and trigger protests and create hue and chaos to steer people away from pressing issues such as drones, terrorism, corruption and crime. Destablise the country - ironic or coincidence almost all Muslim countries are going through a political turmoil and rebellions and chaos?

who wags the dog?! brilliant question. so please do not argue over the rights of GLBTs and fight - kisii ki sehat ko koi asar nai parna. :p Being an Islamic state the law of condemnation of homoosexuality isn't wrong. So respect the local law and stop debating over this **oh so important basic human right **when we have so much more to worry about :(

@Dr.Lulworth this is the more important point of discussion - rather than gays being born this way or the science of sexual orientation being groveled about !

:)

[firenze]

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@Himalaya

Looks like you are quite the expert. Markets for Gays? Where did you get that from? Yes there are places in KP as well as other areas within Pakistan where you can pick up male and female prostitutes but there is no such Market dedicated to Gays/Homosexuals. Many men from Punjab, Sindh and AJK have intercourse with eunuchs.

Male Brothel houses are quite common in nearly all Pakistani cities hence the term Markets just like Lahore Diamond Market (heera mandi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boMjrPRNKkM
http://ilga.org/ilga/en/article/604

[Dr.LuLworth]

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@Enigmatic

alot of ppl are ***gay by choice or out of sexual frustration

***prove it. sab ki personal life check kar kay bata rahay hain kya huzoor? ya koi actual viable evidence bhi hai?

@Enigmatic

he crux of the matter is that Americans are NOT respecting Pakistan as a sovereign country.

it's definitely a HUGE problem. agree with the rest for the most part.

[reduzijuice]

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To those who think this is not a big issue:

It saddens me that an issue which affects anywhere between 2-9% of the population is so easily dismissed.

And not just any issue - but the lives of these people are in question!

If convicted of homosexuality - the current punishment (based on hadees not Quran) is death.

Please - how is this a trivial matter?

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE THINK HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE!

You don't even have to bring science or evolution or anything else into this issue. All you have to do is ask yourself this one simple question:

AT WHAT TIME IN YOUR LIFE DID YOU CHOOSE TO BE ATTRACTED TO A MEMBER OF THE OPPOSITE SEX?

If sexual attraction is indeed a choice - then you should be able to recall looking at a man and a woman and deciding who you are attracted to.

I hope you can find the mercy and compassion in your hearts to at least try to answer the question.

[LucyMay]

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@reduzijuice

To those who think this is not a big issue:

It saddens me that an issue which affects anywhere between 2-9% of the population is so easily dismissed.

And not just any issue - but the lives of these people are in question!

If convicted of homosexuality - the current punishment (based on hadees not Quran) is death.

Please - how is this a trivial matter?

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE THINK HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE!

You don't even have to bring science or evolution or anything else into this issue. All you have to do is ask yourself this one simple question:

AT WHAT TIME IN YOUR LIFE DID YOU CHOOSE TO BE ATTRACTED TO A MEMBER OF THE OPPOSITE SEX?

If sexual attraction is indeed a choice - then you should be able to recall looking at a man and a woman and deciding who you are attracted to.

I hope you can find the mercy and compassion in your hearts to at least try to answer the question.

Well said! Live and let live.. why give yourself a heart attack over what others are doing in their bedrooms?

[Med911]

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@reduzijuice

^^ whoa just when I was about to give up hope of finding sanity on this forum

med911 do you live in Pakistan?

What do you think should be the punishment for homosexuals caught in the act? According to most people here - its death.

No, im a well wisher and a proud NRP.

Caught in the act of having sex? Ummm... I dont know, ask them to keep it down so you can sleep?

Personally im not quite sure what exactly Pakistanis are refering to when they talk about homosexuality? Is it the American understanding of Homosexuality where even holding hands is gay? Or is it the classic greek understanding of homsexuality...

[raaaz08]

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The GAY BOMB’s victim nation-------------LOLSSSSSSSSSS

I think that when Americans were making their GAY BOMB, they tested this on their own people and thats why whole nation is suffering from this ugly disease. The worst thing is they are trying to spread this disease in the whole world.

Gay bomb

[Salma88khan]

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Shame on you, this is not Islam. We should not even indulge in this type of conversation.

[raaaz08]

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Come out of your "Made in America" thinking

                    Wikipedia is not a reliable source, there is an edit option almost with every paragraph,You can easily write any thing into Wikipedia----For example I can write that for a man or boy doing sex with  his own mother, sister, brother or father is not an unusual thing to happen in USA and blah blah...or some gay bomb stuff hehehehehehe
       Come on dude, come out of your "Made in America" thinking and see the world from all angles. The world is bigger, greater and beautiful than your ugly "Made in America" thinking.

I again quote my self here "Any thing you do against nature can not produce good results"

[reduzijuice]

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Answer the question Raaz08 - don't spew hate speech.

AT WHAT TIME IN YOUR LIFE DID YOU CHOOSE TO BE ATTRACTED TO A MEMBER OF THE OPPOSITE SEX?

[Dr.LuLworth]

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@raaaz08

Come out of your "Made in America" thinking

                    Wikipedia is not a reliable source, there is an edit option almost with every paragraph,You can easily write any thing into Wikipedia----For example I can write that for a man or boy doing sex with  his own mother, sister, brother or father is not an unusual thing to happen in USA and blah blah...or some gay bomb stuff hehehehehehe
       Come on dude, come out of your "Made in America" thinking and see the world from all angles. The world is bigger, greater and beautiful than your ugly "Made in America" thinking.

I again quote my self here "Any thing you do against nature can not produce good results"

you are villifying wikipedia and you just posted a wikipedia article...
actually, no you can't edit the articles on your own anymore...
at the bottom of each page, you have fact based links citing facts you have written about...so you can actually verify thinkgs and where it was written originally.

[raaaz08]

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@reduzijuice

Answer the question Raaz08 - don't spew hate speech.

AT WHAT TIME IN YOUR LIFE DID YOU CHOOSE TO BE ATTRACTED TO A MEMBER OF THE OPPOSITE SEX?

  We are here to discuss different issues and post our opinions. Not to discuss each other' s personal life. It is Pakistan Affairs forum. And your question is very much personal and obnoxious. I hope you will avoid this kind of content  in future.

[reduzijuice]

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@raaaz08

We are here to discuss different issues and post our opinions. Not to discuss each other' s personal life. It is Pakistan Affairs forum. And your question is very much personal and obnoxious. I hope you will avoid this kind of content in future.

Dear raaz08 - I did not mean to be obnoxious. I do understand that the question I am asking is a personal question - rest assured your anonymity is ensured by the internet.

The question - AT WHAT TIME IN YOUR LIFE DID YOU CHOOSE TO BE ATTRACTED TO A MEMBER OF THE OPPOSITE SEX? - is personal - however it is the easiest way for me to make people understand that sexuality is not a choice - whether you want to answer the question or not - I do hope that you at least ask yourself the question in your head.

I hope you will avoid this kind of content in the future:

.... You are sick, completely sick.I do not think we should even discuss this stupid disease here. .....

[Med911]

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@raaaz08

We are here to discuss different issues and post our opinions. Not to discuss each other' s personal life. It is Pakistan Affairs forum. And your question is very much personal and obnoxious. I hope you will avoid this kind of content in future.

So you actually choose to be attracted to Women?!?!?!

And whats sick about this conversation. You need to grow up buddy, this is the real world. Gays exist, all people have genitals, women are naked under their clothes, babies dont fall out of heaven. Welcome to adult life.

[Captain1]

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@Dr.LuLworth

mae apna sar peetraha hoon. phir wohi fail?

atleast evolution theories have humanoid skeletons from 4 million years ago to back up their claims (and scientist disagree on which skeletons are the truest link to our evolutionary past, not because they don’t believe in evolution bhai sahab). on the other hand, people who believe in god have a magical book they believe is written by an invisible being.

i’m just saying, at this point, i’d take a scientist and their THEORY with some evidence then a magical invisible being with zero evidence.

now I know why talking to you felt like “bhens ke aagay been bajajana”

[raaaz08]

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@Med911

So you actually choose to be attracted to Women?!?!?!

And whats sick about this conversation. You need to grow up buddy, this is the real world. Gays exist, all people have genitals, women are naked under their clothes, babies dont fall out of heaven. Welcome to adult life.

"Anything you do against nature do not produce good results"

I have not refused gays existence. In fact I told in my previous post that this gayism is a trend or a life style in USA and many other countries. Although many christian priests are still condemning it.Homosexuality problem was also addressed in Muslim's Holy book "Quran". According to Islamic teachings it is a huge sin.It means homosexuality problem exists in history. Moreover Holy Quran says those nations who were involved in this ugly thing, they were destructed by the order of Almighty Allah.

What i tried to tell you people i repeat again "Anything you do against nature do not produce good results". By nature every man likes woman but those who are mislead they attracted by men.

Homosexuality is a disease. You better do some research on this topic. Some people gave examples that homosexuality exists in animals. And animals are part of nature. My point was animals do sex with each other without caring about relations. For e.g a male goat can do sex with his mother and sister. Should human beings also follow this part of animals nature.?????

     And last thing to tell you, yes every normal man like woman because its natural.

[yazdi]

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[note]Avoid directing personal question to each other specially the personal sexual orientation should not be discussed here. Keep you discussion decent/general.. and any theocratic discussion should be taken to the religious forum.. [/note]

[Shamraz_Khan]

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"Anything you do against nature do not produce good results"

I have not refused gays existence. In fact I told in my previous post that this gayism is a trend or a life style in USA and many other countries.

Trend of life style? Please explain to me why would anyone wanted to be gay? What are the benefits, if any, when you could even be killed for being gay in many countries in the world. Gays are discriminated against and are persecuted in most countries including in many western countries. They were banned from openly serving in the military in the US until recently.

If homosexuality is just western thing I'd agree with you, but it is not. I mean there was a news story about 2 gay teens hanged in Iran last year and their bodies dangling from crane. If this was trend they sure picked a wrong country to be in. Btw, here in the US most gay haters usually turn out to be closed gay themselves. Have you ever wonder why?

[mukobhai]

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Trend of life style? Please explain to me why would anyone wanted to be gay? What are the benefits, if any, when you could even be killed for being gay in many countries in the world. Gays are discriminated against and are persecuted in most countries including in many western countries. They were banned from openly serving in the military in the US until recently.

If homosexuality is just western thing I'd agree with you, but it is not. I mean there was a news story about 2 gay teens hanged in Iran last year and their bodies dangling from crane. If this was trend they sure picked a wrong country to be in. Btw, here in the US most gay haters usually turn out to be closed gay themselves. Have you ever wonder why?

Sir Homosexuality is a crime in Islam I find it funny how on earth Muslims can defend one of the biggest crime in Islam

[reduzijuice]

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As a Muslim I defend it because it is not a crime against another human being. Two men or two women having sex with each other does not do anything to you. It does no harm to society either.