Pakistani films restoration

Salam

I have been a long time lurker on this forum. Without much to contribute I have normally just browsed this site. Today however I have something which I would like the members opinion on.
As we know Pakistan’s film industry has pretty much been run into the ground. There are modern films that have come out but have so far been unable to either revive the film going appetite for Pakistani films or build a platform upon which Pakistani films can springboard. Sure there have been films like Khuda Kay Liye, Bol, Ramchand Pakistani and most recently Siyah and Chambaili however they cannot bear comparison to the golden era films from the 1960-1980’s.
I wish all the success to the modern film makers however what I would like to draw attention to is the preservation of older Pakistani films. Currently I suppose if you want to watch a film like Aina, Heer Ranjha, Sher Khan, Arman or even a film like Jinnah if you live in Pakistan you will be able to find a DVD copy in the markets. Bar Jinnah the remaining films prints are awful, scratchy and nowhere near the standard of what a film should be. Ana DVD had originally released some films with English subtitles however the original print was not restored. Other release companies have neither provided a restored print or subtitles however Sadaf is the worst offender. It’s DVD copy of Maula Jatt stands out as being worse than the VCD copy. There are logos covering the screen and the film has been cropped from its 4:3 presentation to 16:9 which has lead to the majority of the shot being cut e.g. where Noori Natt is introduced by pulling the jailers face towards him in the DVD print his hands are cropped so you do not understand why he has turned that and furthermore it reduces the impact of the scene.
Older films like Dulla Bhatti are in horrible state. A film like Kartar Singh is so rare it cannot be found. To make matters worse the
trend of three films on a disc makes the prints seem so blocky you can hardly discern what pixels you are seeing.
I live in the UK and I find obtaining copies of Pakistani films extremely difficult. I remember growing up in the 80’s and every town had multiple shops where you could rent the latest films and dramas from Pakistan. Now the situation is that film shops here do not stock these films.
What I propose is the following:
. Buying the original prints (with copyright where possible)
. Film restoration as shown in this video: Rejuvenating the classics (6.3.2011) - YouTube
. Subtitling into various languages e.g. English, Arabic, Mandarin
. Release of these films on DVD worldwide (Pakistan if possible though I wonder if people will want to buy an original copy if they can buy the older print. In this case a DVD would need to be priced at between Rs 100-200 to attract and entice I suppose)
. Lobbying with the government to create a Film Restoration archive where these prints can be kept for the Nation similar to initiatives in America, Britain, France etc. The restored prints will then be donated there

A starting point for possible films would be these lists:
. Pakistan Diamond Jubilee Films
. Back to the classics -DAWN Images; August 14, 2005
. In defence of Pakistani films -DAWN Magazine; May 22, 2005

My initial test film choice would be Maula Jatt. OK, before you scoff I can say it is one of our highest profile films. I have been uploading Pakistani films online at: shehzadashiq - YouTube and I have tried to upload as many films as I could get my hand on. The only exception I have is that I do not upload modern films whose prints are available to buy e.g. Majajan (Despite the fact that Royal has watermarked the copy twice and it has no subtitles) or Yeh Dil Aap Ka Hua (Available on MovieBox in the UK legitimately). The statistics are shocking.
I list here the top 10 popular videos on my channel during the last 30 days

Title Views, Minutes Watched
Maula Jutt / مولا جٹ - Pakistani Punjabi Full Movie - 1979, 34,581, 538,507
Chan Veryam / چن وریام - Pakistani Punjabi Full Movie - 1981, 10,874,125,554
Kismat - Qismat / قسمت (Destiny)- Full Pakistani Punjabi Movie - 1985, 10,409, 136,441
Ziddi / ضِدی - (Stubborn) - Pakistani Punjabi Full Movie - 1973, 10,284, 118,117
Dhee Rani / دھی رانی - (Daughter Princess) - Pakistani Punjabi Movie Full - 1985, 9,184, 102,149
Lucky Luke - Ballad Of the Daltons (1978) - English 1/8, 8,808, 20,504
Mehndi / مہندی (Henna) - Pakistani Punjabi Full movie - 1985, 7,589, 90,870
Charda Suraj - چڑھدا سورج (Rising Sun) - Pakistani Punjabi Full Movie - 1982, 6,759, 147,476
Naukar Tey Malik / نوکر تے مالِک (Servant and Master) - Pakistani Punjabi Full Movie - 1982, 6,491, 78,074
Wadera / وڈیرہ (Lord) - Pakistani Punjabi Full Movie - 1985, 6,159, 97,243

Despite being uploaded last December it has become the third most viewed video on my channel easily beating a title (Lucky Luke) which has a much larger profile in the world. You have lies, damned lies and statistics however in this case what I would like to know is that can these statistics be translated into a viable effort.
The process of restoring these prints will be expensive and time consuming. This is something which cannot be done by a sole individual but would require an effort from a group of like-minded individuals.
Please let me know what you think. I appreciate any suggestions about which direction this project can proceed in. Please remember that these films belong to us as a nation, if we do not appreciate and preserve them then we will be the poorer for it. To quote Will Hays motives for starting the American film preservation project, “so that schoolboys in the year 3,000 and 4,000 A.D. may learn about us”

Wasalam
Shehzad

Same is the case with our dramas and you are right these films need to be preserved.

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foreign production per tax lag gaya :hbk:

Kis ny lgaya?

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Ishaq daar ne

lol.....this was in the budget?

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Yes in Budget announced today. Apparently it seems to hit Turkish dramas, but it uses words 'foreign films' as well. I hope that would cover Indian movies as well.

Do you think it’s a good decision? Are you happy about this?

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Here is the wording from budget document:

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An adjustable withholding tax on foreign-produced films, TV serials and plays etc to be collected by the authority responsible for their censoring/certification at the rate of Rs. 1 Million for films and Rs. 100,000 per episode for TV plays.
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They all are making money, so why not they should be taxed. I think its a good decision and will also give an advantage to local productions.

I think they will find a way to get away with this.Let's see recently HUM tv has also decided to on air a Turkish drama (much more crap than the previous one's) and i wasn't expecting this from Sultana siddiqui.

Kuch he din me sab pta chal jaye ga

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People belonging to showbiz themselves have never shown interest in preserving the old good content.

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Great to see there is somebody who agrees :) I believe the dramas might actually be in a better condition or situation then films because these "should" be in the PTV archives. Having said that BBC used to air subtitled version of Pakistani dramas but they are impossible to find. Having those prints could really help promote Pakistani drama IMO.
I think local distributors (Film and TV) have been utilising foreign productions as a tax loophole. When a cinema house can buy a relatively cheap product from abroad why would they wish to buy local produce which would be dearer. BTW does anyone have any ideas about where to start or any suggestions regarding my query?

Compared to films yes drama might be in a better condition but PTV is not paying any heed to requests and they are not even re-telecasting old classics.I wonder why they are keeping it shut in their vaults.
Coming to your query first thing you need is to get your hands on original prints which i am not sure if you can get from Rainbow center karachi(maybe you know about it already) .I learnt through this forum that it’s the largest CD market in Asia.I hope someone here might be of any help to you GOOD LUCK!

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PTV like a lot of institution does not understand the value of its own products. They could learn from BBC or HBO who once they have created a drama serial then distribute them throughout the world. This provides an additional revenue stream. I believe Shalimar recording once produced DVDs but now this has stopped.
The original prints cannot be obtained from Rainbow centre etc. These can only be obtained from places like Royal Park in Lahore (The majority of film distributors are here I believe) or direct through the families of the original producers (e.g. the copy of Zarqa by Riaz Shahid could possibly be obtained through Shaan, his son).
Regarding copyright, I suppose the film copyright for Maula Jatt can only be obtained through its producer Sarwar Bhatti Films like Maula Jatt changed Lollywood forever, says Sarwar Bhatti – The Express Tribune. Shabab productions which produced the great films of the 60’s-70’s shut down in the 80s after the death of Shabab Keranvi so I don’t know who to contact for that.
As I am physically not in Pakistan, if any of the members want to help out the first thing I suppose is if anyone has any contacts they can PM me and I will try to contact them or they can speak initially. I don’t know how feasible this is but I think a start needs to be made somewhere. I think the first step is obtaining the prints. Is there anyone who would be willing to help search for them?

Can someone please restore Dulhan eik raat ki for me :(

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contact Musarrat Shaheen via Molana Fazl u Rehman :chai:

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Help OP :cadet:

Ask your Boss to give Mota’s number :stuck_out_tongue:

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I don;t think he would be of much help as far as the archival is concerned. I think probably his father was also film producer

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would you like a 3D version as well?

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:D