"Pakistani Executed"

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We are used to such news headings appearing every once in a while originating most often from the ME, particularly KSA. We accept their strict laws and enforcement, and submit. Not much attention is paid to the many beheadings that take place now and then due to the many cases of trafficking, murder, rape, sodomy, adultery, robbery, apostasy that take place.

Over the past month or so though, I’ve come across this headline almost every other day if not daily. Here are some links. These are all from May 2007. I can’t even recall if the streak had actually begun in May, or March/April.

1 May 2007
Pakistani beheaded in S. Arabia
http://www.dawn.com/2007/05/02/top16.htm

2 May 2007
Four Pakistanis executed for murder, rape
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=123&art_id=nw20070502111845928C140425

11 May 2007
Pakistani Beheaded in Jeddah
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C05%5C11%5Cstory_11-5-2007_pg7_50

12 May 2007
Three Pakistanis beheaded in S. Arabia
http://www.dawn.com/2007/05/12/top18.htm

13 May 2007
Saudi Arabia beheads a Saudi and a Pakistani man

15 May 2007
*** Pakistani among six beheaded in Saudi Arabia***
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\05\15\story_15-5-2007_pg7_32

17 May 2007
Pakistani beheaded for smuggling Heroin

20 May 2007
Kuwait hangs Pakistani convicted of smuggling heroin
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/05/20/africa/ME-GEN-Kuwait-Hanging.php

21 May 2007
Drug Trafficker Beheaded
http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/07/05/21/10126958.html

24 May 2007
Saudi Authorities behead Pakistani convicted of drug smuggling
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/05/24/africa/ME-GEN-Saudi-Beheading.php

This number could be increasing right now. It’s not that they don’t behead locals, they’re executed equally wholesale too;
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/26/africa/ME-GEN-Saudi-Beheading.php

Most of these are related with drugs, few with rape, robbery or murder.
Can’t call our people exactly innocent.
But cant have blind faith in Saudi legal system either. There is racism and oppression against foreign (esp lower) workers in the ME.
Can’t actually believe that all these are 100% Pakistanis just because they were caught with a Pakistani passport.

Do our embassies or the govt take notice of these executions of Pakistanis that take place in bulk? Is a Pakistani life so cheap that the govt and local HR activists of sorts don’t bother while other nations and nationalities are so valuable, aware and important that even a single death row prisoner stirs global movements. Remember Mirza Tahir Hussain a (naturalized) UK citizen?
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=37660
And most recently two young Palestinian-Canadian brothers living in KSA who’re convicted of murder, have stirred the Canadians and the Western society at large.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070515.wsaudi15/BNStory/International/home
Pakistani convicts are in the news only after they’re executed.

Do we care to find out why there are so many Pakistani beheadings? Why there are so many Pakistani criminals goig abroad and giving Pakistan a bad name? Are they all really Pakistani? Are they all really the right culprits and the criminals they’re *proven *to be? Are they given a fair trial? Some corners do raise concerns about executions, and the rising nos in SA, but slight concern for numerous executions aren’t in proportion.

Most of the cases are actually deserved sentences that call for capital punishment almost all over the world, but we need to be sure how much justice is actually being provided.
The point here is not to talk about whether capital punishment, death by the sword, strict interpretation and implementation of Islamic Law etc is right/wrong, justified/unjustified, reasonable/unreasonable or not, rather the subject is the plight of those convicted, our nation and govt’s concern for them and this issue and the way all this affects Pakistan’s image.

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Then it should be Afghani not Pakistani. Paki government should initiate little investigation in these executions, to me mostly would be innocents or carriers for others who exploit them. I remember when in 1999 or 2000 a Canadian was caught and judged for execution by SA court, Canadian Govt, made hue and cry and got him released. These Arabic people are morons, kick @$$ pakis, Kiss a$$ goras.

FARID

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Saudi Arabia is a true friend of Pakistan. It is time tested relationship. Brotherly Love between countries.

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No executions this time, but life at stake nevertheless…

28 May 2007
Four Pakistanis jailed for life**
http://dawn.com/2007/05/28/top18.htm

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Pakistan does not care about its own people in Pakistan itself, do you think someone is going to go out there and care about the ones living outside of it?

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they wont listen as they dont have any judicial system, it is their own version of justice that denies you even the basic rights like getting a lawyer. There are no lawyers in Saudi Arabia

You may get some consideration if are from a western country
If you an African or an Asian, then to the Gallows it is ..
Unfortunately

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^^ yup

its pretty barbaric

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the kind of profile that our govt has and the way our people behave in KSA u cant blame the saudis for having no respect for us. there are some pakis who come to makkah soley for the purpose of stealing people's wallets in the haram itself because most people wear ihrams and cant hide their wallets properly. we have such shameless pakis in KSA

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At least someone is punishing idiotic people for their crimies. Of course, racism may have a big part to play, but since when are Pakistanis farishtay?

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Criminal receive no sympathy from anyone. Pak is sadly dishing out junk and i am not in the least surprised.

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Well that's what I had stated above too, that our people aren't exactly angels at all, and have a seriously smudged reputation allover the world, and its true many visit Makkah and Madina just to steal etc. But, having lived in th ME and having closely observed the social trends and mindsets, I believe that atleast a few of the many mentioned above must have been wasted without proper justice, investigation or through blatant violation of human rights.

James is absolutely right that Asians, rather South Asians or Africans are shown least mercy. Recently a Philippino maid was acquitted while a Libyan (if i recall the nationality right) was executed. Similarly a south asian is sent to the gallows asap, while westerners, most recently Canadians, are held, and ample time provided for Canada and the western civil society to lodge protest and get the *naturalized *Canadian citizens, who had committed murder nonetheless, released or shown mercy.
True crime needs to be punished, and at times its rather commendable how strictly ME countries enforce law and order, but questionable elements need to be questioned, atleast in name by the govt. I'm not even sure if and what formal process takes place between the local authorities and the Pakistan Embassy before an execution or any other sentence for that matter.

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^^ Bhai, let me tell you the real story behind these Pakistani Drug Smugglers

Most of these people are poor Village people who are enticed into smuggling drugs into KSA by wealthy Saudi Princes with the promise of jobs and money.

So these are naive Drug Mules who have no idea about the harshness of the Saudi Legal System.

And how do I know this. One of my dad's friends when we used to live in KSA worked as a doctor for the Saudi Hospitals. He treated some Pakistani Drug Smugglers for drug overdose when one of their drug packets inside their stomach burst. He told them that a person in relation to a wealthy saudi prince came to them offering them jobs and money if they can smuggle Afghan Drugs into KSA.

So its Saudi Princes who are the ones bringing drugs into KSA and they just use Pakistanis as transportation for bringing Afghan Drugs into KSA.

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This would never have happened under BB or Nawaj government :mad:

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@ m2k : if that is a fair account and it probably is then the blame goes to pakistani government just as much if not more. the least they can do is educate their people about the punishments regarding crime since so many pakistani are caught doing it. tsk the governments @muslim countries= selfish + incompetent.

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^ education … What is that :konfused:

dig out some facts and figures for the budget put aside for education in Pakistan, as compared to, lets say Defense or even Tourism..

You will have the shock of your lifetime

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its not just drug smuggling, many crimes committed in KSA are done by our honorable countrymen, recently 3 pakistanis were hanged after they broke into a saudis home and killed him. apart from that our skilled labor has also been caught manufacturing alcohol illegaly. even after having such strict punishments for these crimes our thick headed pakistanis still try to push their luck.
I have no sympathy for such fools, they deserve what they get.
As for being enticed into smuggling drugs, it was their own choice, noone forced them to do it, if they had half a brain they would actually think twice about what they were doing and what the consequences could be. Is a job in saudi arabia really worth taking such a risk? Yeah it does happen somtimes that people put drugs in some innocent persons baggage because they freak out in the airport and that poor person gets executed without having a trial, that is awful and something which is worthy of our sympathy.
I would advise anyone travelling to KSA to be very mindul of their baggage at all times and keep it within ur sight cuz u never know when some1 might decide to slip something in to it

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blame also goes to our so-called government, which could at least take a stand on the matter and question the saudi authorities about the treatment of pakistani detainess and giving them a fair trial. but our "yes-sir", spineless government doesnt want to ruin its so called 'friendly' relations with KSA

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guys we can not blame only pakistani for this. i m doing job here and i saw black saudis to seling the alocol material at the roads. why pakistani do this bcz of the saudi system
they dont renew there visas at proper time
and mostley peopel run away from there sponser to get job outside at the end they start doing choori, smugling etc.

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Pakistan, have to lick Saudi boots to keep the Arab money and support flowing.

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would u start stealing, selling alcohol and smuggling drugs if u lost ur job, is that the only way to make money? what garbage, there are many pakis who make an honest living in saudi doing small jobs, if ppl cant do that then they should go bak to pakistan noones forcing them to live in saudi.