Pakistani Culture of Pakistan - Today's perspective.

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With the exceptions of a few responses, this thread is just full of people trashing Pakistan. Not only is that highly offensive but also indicative of INDIVIDUAL experiences. I am sorry my circles in Pakistan are not upper class, filthy rich or trendy like yours, but their not ghatiya and beyghairat either :rolleyes:

I take assaults on Pakistan pretty personally. I have quite messed up stories for you guys relating to Pakistanis in the West, but why condemn entire groups? Even in the US my friends are well grounded Muslims who know the special challenges we face, so I can’t stereotype.

I grew up in the US, most of my education here. Only 2nd grade in Pakistan, where I learned about *my *people, *islamic *environment, and our sense of culture and respect. I speak fluent Urdu and have a direct cultural continuity with my family in Pakistan. While Pakistan may not be the land of the pure, I stand with those who are paak, in the truest sense of the word.

I have lived long enough to realize that NO matter what you want to believe, you will nver be a true American. Sure you might hace the blue passport, recite the pledge of allegience till you die, but trust me, when they ask where your from? they dont mean New York. In discussions with my friends, we have realized that we may have become internationalized but we are Muslims in faith, Pakistanis in heritage and damn proud of it!

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I have no issues being paki.. i just wudn't live there , and yes this si my personal experiences talking :)

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ive heard these things are quite common among the elite in pakistan. What a shame!

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^^^SARA you dont want to live there, who cares? who actually want you there? so stay where you are, its your choice.

All Pakistani bashing doesnt make any sense. why you people out of mind when you think about Pakistan. acts of 1 %or even less doesnt represent the whole spirit of Pakistanis.

good and evil are everywhere, and who ever had such stories thrown on to, really need to change the group of friends or people around her/him. surely some so called very small group of "wanna be" shouldnt be considered the way of most urban Pakistanis.

Sadly people living out of Pakistan do or observe things in west as normal when this happens in Pakistan in very very small propotions, they want to make it excuse to bash Pakistan. and dont compare it with west cause its not west at all!

and again A hint Chinese will stay chinese even he/she born bred or live anywhere else. a passport cant change my roots!

take pride in your roots! make a moto, if you people hate Pakistan then just dont visit it, and dont try to insult feelings of many who are by heart Pakistanis, a coconut cant feel it!

Pakistan Zindabad!

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While that might be a societal phenomenon, individually it is highly destructive. Without name dropping, I can assure you that some of the most successful individuals that I know, happen to be devoutly religious. Forget just Islamic values, religious Christians have done well for themselves in the US.

While I realize that affluence brings a lot vices on a societal level, the choice is highly individualistic. Being grounded in religion, any religion, instills a sense of purpose and the motivation to do well beyond the self. I could care less about those indulging in vices, because they are making it easier for the moral ones to reclaim the mantle of leadership and control of the nation.

So if Pakistan's elites are indulging in this type of behavior, then I say kudos. Much like the US, where religious conservatives are calling the shots, we too will have our day :)

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It certainly was limited to the ‘creme’ and the ‘bottom feeders’ of the society (the two extremes). However, due to the prevailing govt-sponsored enlightenment these days, it is gradually diffusing in to other cross-sections of the society as well. However, such people are still in minority (thanks to Allah).

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there is good and bad people living in every society....

personally I know much more decent people living in Pakistan, than i do from Uk/USA.

take the guppies on this site for example, I like and respect the Pakistani ones alot more than the ABCD/BBCDs....or even those that have spent majority of their life in Pakistan, I tend to get on better with them :) there are some exceptions....and there are a couple of cool UK/USA ppl here too -but majority i find annoying

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^^^ Exactly same here

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Exactly the same for me!

How come its always like the shareef people find the bad people, and the bad people find the shareef ?!

I dropped a few hints to one of my cousins last time i was over there, quizing him about what dodgey stuff people get upto, and he just kept changing the subject.

I do hear about one or two relatives who people just say to stay away from, but i can never get to properly meet them. I just want to go upto someone and say "wheres this chilling that everyones talking about!!!".

Im suprised that no one approaches me about this stuff and assumes that i get upto certain things in England.

I guess where i come from it doesnt happen as widely or openly as in more liberal areas. Next time i go over im going to make it a mission to find this "behudgi" and maybe document it in a blog.

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i love my country, its people, its traditions and its culture. yes its not free of evil doers but then how many are there? if u'd look for bad u'd find bad. if u'd look for good ud find good. it all depends on ur perception and mindset.i never lived in pak but b4 coming to canada i used to go there once every year. we met many really nice ppl. humble and down to earth. we also had bad experiences at the hands of bad ppl but that doesn't mean we should start painting the whole country in the same color which is unjust.

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:k: Shukriya Paaji, I guess ppl like Saimanyc, Diva4U, Sara516, Angel Eyes give bad name to Pakistan.. when you are outside you are cultutal ambassador of Islam and Pakistan but ppl like them just go where oppurtunity is… What Diva4U is talking might be an isolated case or her friend.. plus if these incidents are happening cuz we are adapting western culture, and allowing western/Indian movies on our TV.. internet has penetrated big time in Pak when someone suggested it shouldn’t have been allowed in the first place.. ppl are going mad over development but no one thinks it is hurting our culture.. I say to these ladies that if Pak is so bad, dont go to Pak, simple. PAkistan is way advanced than India… Lahore is atleast 25 years ahead of Delhi. Ditto for Karachi Vs. Mumbai… no one is that poor in Pak and there is so much violence in India due to poverty, religious difference..and heat.. ppl shud be proud of the fact that atelast we are #1 in S. Asia behind China. :jhanda:

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^ Sometimes u gotta go to Pak :p

And fyi, I didn't go "where opporutnity is".. i was born and raised here.. if I was born/raised in Pak, amybe i'd love pak more, or maybe i still wudnt like it :p

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whatever happenz in us happenz in pakistan....the only difference is pakistani's hide it and americans dont...

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Still if you claim to be one Pakistani-American girl, justifying the first part of your identity by blatantly criticizing ur orginis in a rather moronic fashion aint that comendable. There is a cultural gap and then there's a deep analysis that you have to do before judging ppl and cultures. I hope you get it.

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Pakistan is not way advanced then india

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It is advanced nevertheless.. how do ya say that? Have you been to either of these countries.. ? How do you support your statement?

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The corruption used to be a practice for the elite who were exposed to Western culture who naturally saw Western culture as more modern and progressive than their own values...the masses werent exposed to these values or CHOICES so naturally didnt act upon it...

So with increased globalisation and access to information and cultures the masses are now exposed to the CHOICES that are avaliable to them...

So if society promotes these values then naturally people are going to take advantage of them just like they do in the West...The corruption that you speak of is slowly becoming part of Pakistani culture...its not taboo or unacceptable behaviour...

The society isnt Islamic so why the surprise when people arent Islamic...Pakistan may have been built on the premise of Islam but there is nothing remotely Islamic about its systems and societal makeup...

Quas...
Bro dont build holes for yourself...comments like no-one is really poor in Pakistan would get laughed at...Dont make me bring up stats on how many people live below the poverty line...

Dont make me bring up stats about Pakistan having the highest number of heroin addicts in the world...

Dont make me bring up stats about Pakistans levels of child prostitution...

Pakistan has no religious differences or violence...are you having a laugh?...

Bro im not into Pakistan bashing...but your making out as if Pakistan is a tourist destination free of problems...Dont let your patriotism blind you please...

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Quas :- I am not into giving pakistan a bad name. I just stated a conversation I had with my friend. No need to make judgements on behalf of me or others. Also, the point of this thread is for NOT bashing purposes. It was to state a recent observation thru someone who is currently visiting pakistan and meeting young corporate individuals/society. Relax dude !

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3. Once it was time for namaz and my brother was hanging out with my cousin and his friends. They were gonna go somewhere so my bro was like lets pray before we go so we dont miss the time, and the friend went "yeh america se aya hai ya mecca se"

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Yeah, amazing how little people pray in Pakistan. I have seen children of Imam Masjid not praying! Those who do pray are quite the religious type. Unlike outside Pakistan where i have seen majority of Pakis praying despite not being overtly religious type.

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Its amazing how many of ABCD’s like to insult Pakistans morals, ethics, and people, based on a few personal experiences or someone elses experiences.
You werent born there nor you were raised there but you think you know what its all about.
Yeah, amazing how little people pray in Pakistan. I have seen children of Imam Masjid not praying! Those who do pray are quite the religious type. Unlike outside Pakistan where i have seen majority of Pakis praying despite not being overtly religious type.
Just because you want something to be true, doesnt make so. :grumpy: :naraz: