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well no one messes with bal thackrey still because of his support.
Regarding this thread: Well its good for yousuf. He is a mature person and made an informed decision. I think Saeed Anwar had a big part to play in it.
But I had no qualms about him being christians. For me he is, was and will be a classy player always whether he is known as youhana or yousuf.
One question, will his records be corrected with mohamamd yousuf? I think he can go with youhana as well. Whole world knows him by youhana so mohammad yousuf youhana sounds about right.
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I think it should be whatever he wants it to be. Mohd. Yousuf or Yousuf Khan :D ....
People/record can always say aka Youhana.
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I know where you are coming from…but it is interesting that to prove your point…you limit yourself to India and then jump over to Sri Lanka as convenient.
I will only say this, Muslims in India are different from Muslims elsewhere…they are more in tune with the concept of “secularism”…Mullah-ism does not have popular support in India…agreed…but that is not to say it is the same everywhere.
As for the Indian-Muslim fanaticism comparison, you cannot do that by limiting the context to India. India is 85% Hindu…so even a tiny percentage of all Hindus(fanatics) would outnumber Muslims in any context in India.
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Agreed. But whole discussion started when you gave example of Mullah organizations having issues with these kinda conversion and conveniently forgot that it is same on other side. I have seen more protest and fight against conversion of Dalits/tribes ( having lived in tribal belt, you know where :D) to christianity than anything else. Thats the reason it is silly to take high moral ground.
Am I wrong?
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No. Most ppl don’t know this. If an adult converts (islamic adult - from when salah is fard) then you don’t need to get it done. It is actually counter to the *haya *or modesty of islam to advise such a thing. I have heard of pp ill advising ppl in the US and west to new converts.
Also, May Allah make his conversion a true and lasting one. Celebrities sometime sucumb to pressure. I pray and hope this is not the case for him. Specially with Inzi and group becoming half mullahs (darhee walas) the pressure I am sure is immense. But then again we can only look at the Apparent as Islam teaches us to do. So MABROOK to him and welcome to the muslim brotherhood.
:maulvidis He must of seen something different in the character of ppl near him to make this decision. Otherwise pak is full of bad muslims who actually are driving ppl away from ISlam.
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Actually I heard the converts dont need to change their last name unless it is something that suggests agaisnt the "Wahdaniat" of Allah. One doesnt need to change the first name but is suggested to do so in order to differenciate from Kufaar.
As far as Youhana decision to convert goes, I guess mashAllah but it's his personal business and I hope he didnt convert so as to have a better chance at captaining the side. I dont think he was looked over and Younis was picked because of religion. It was more cause of the laid back attitude if both Inzi and Yoyo which makes Younis's hyper vocal involvement in the match more useful. Although Younis is not an automatic selection so a lot could be argued about his position as well. Anyway may Allah bless Yoyoy and his family and let us all follow the right path. Ameen.
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I opened a thread in GENERAL about a Muslim Cleric’s issue with Sania’s skirts. To my surprise, most people there seemed to agree with the Cleric that Sania should cover herself up when playing tennis in keeping with Islamic traditions. To me this is Mullah-ism (regardless of what the Quran says about this). And this is what I meant by Mullahism having popular support(support even amongst educated people).
Now go to an Indian forum and open a thread about Shiv Sena vandalizing Gift Shops on Valentine’s day and see how many Hindus agree with Shiv Sena’s position.
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Some1, education enlightens people even more. You said (whatever the Quran says about this), well thats the book we follow. Education or no education Quran tell us the way of life. I would agree that Ms. Mirza wearing skirts is against the religion she claims to follow, now that is rational. Now if I take it upon my self to go their and force her to either cover her legs or I'll cut em off thats the extreme that most people are agaisnt. I dont see any problem with stating my opinion. If one does not want to follow the religion thats their own choice but dont try to break the rules set by the religion and then try to justify it. This could be the 21st century or the 29th, the rule of Quran is to be followed by the muslims till the end of times.
In any case I do tend to agree with Some1 that their are more extremist on the Muslim side as oppose to the Hindus but their is a very valid reason for that. Majority of Hindus live in India and whatever problems they have their geographical location being so close it's alsmot inevitable that most of their problems are the same and their are things they tend to get aggresive about and things they ignore. On the other hand the Muslim world is well spread out. The Muslims in world do not face the same problems. Their are muslims in kashmir facing one problem and muslims in Palestine facing another, the one in Iraq have a different issue and the one in Egypst have a different. With so many problems and not a common ground their are more extremist from the muslim side. Most of those problems involve the world super powers, mainly U.S.A and the citizens of those countries pay the proce for the decisions made by their respective governments but in the end their fate is decided by some extremist group or person. Hindus mostly dont have a lot of problems with wold powers, most of their problems are internal issue of India.
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Maybe it's good thing that he converted but he should have just kept quiet untill he retired.
I mean think of it, let's say you are living in a country (such as India) where you are a MINORITY and there is only one MUSLIM player (let's say Pathan) in Indian team, you will automatically have soft corner for him and you will SUPPORT India even though you don't get along well with hindus. Now all of a sudden you find out that the only muslim player has converted to Hinduism, how would you feel??? I would personally feel demoralised and might not feel as much part of the country( would feel kind of betrayed).
When Pakistan toured Australia last year, i met all the players and one of the Radio Pakistan rep told me that Yoyo has converted quite a while ago but just wants to keep it a secret for a while, he should have revealed this after retirement.
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This is cricket nama and I cant understand why people here are making it into a political or religious nama.
To everyone who are questioning the conversion of yousuf youhana and giving all sorts of reason, plzz dont do that. No matter what is the reason behind his conversion, it is something between him and his god. There is a hadith that a Sahabi killed a person in a war although he said that I accept Islam and said Kalma Shareef, but the Sahabi thought that he is doing so just due to the fear of death. Later Hazoor (PBUH) got to know about it, and became very angry. He questioned that sahabi and said thay why did he kill that person, was he able to look into that man's heart because no one can , only Allah can do it.
So we don't know at all why he converted and therefore we have no right to doubt his intent and genuineness.
SOME 1, to you don't try to make it so political. If you want to comment on Islam and Muslim, first do a research on Islam and its teaching and than do what ever you want to. Yes there are extremist in Muslim world and at the same time they are everywhere. Just because media is exaggerating everything about islam, no one can claim that every muslim is an extremist.
We all are mature people andI hope now we can end this crap about religoin and politics on this thread.
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Youhana announces conversion to Islam
LAHORE: Pakistan cricket star Yousaf Youhana announced on Saturday that he had embraced Islam.
After offering Isha prayers at the house of Pakistan Hardware Merchants Association President Sheikh Imran Daud, Yousaf said he had embraced Islam three years back but he kept it secret due to unavoidable circumstances.
The top cricketer said there would be no non-Muslim in Pakistan provided the Muslims became true believers and start following in the footsteps of Hazrat Muhammad (SAW). “This will also tend to initiate a global wave about embracing Islam by the non-believers,” he observed. “God willing, soon a day will come when Islam will be the sole supreme religion of the world,” he observed.
He disclosed that his wife had also converted to Islam three months ago, and she offered prayers five times a day. “Especially, my wife and I offer Fajr prayers together,” he said. Yousaf said he would bring up his children in Islamic environment and was also praying for his parents embrace Islam.
Replying to a question, he said he could not express his feeling about becoming a Muslim. He said his visits to Raiwind changed his view about life and he decided to become a Muslim. He said he was facing no pressure or fear as he believed in Almighty Allah.
He said it was not correct to conceal embracing Islam anymore as he was practically following the teachings of this divine religion. “By the grace of God, I am now very much satisfied and feeling burden-less,” he added.
He said he offered daily prayers during foreign visits and also went to mosques in Dubai for saying prayers. He said nowadays he was reading translation of the Holy Qur’aan though he was facing difficulty in reading the holy book in Arabic. He hoped that he would be able to read the holy book in Arabic with ease in few months after learning it from a teacher.
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Poor guy probably got bullied into it. I pity him.
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fkkhan2, I do not claim to have any knowledge of Islam (come to think of it, even of Hinduism). I rely on my education (as opposed to religion) and experience to tell right from wrong. Now if that does not sit well with you, its your opinion and I will accept it.
Personally, I thought Youhana's minority status was great advertisement for Pakistan. Dont know the circumstances of his conversion but if I was a Paki, I wouldn't be rejoicing because this only gives an impression(true or not) that Islam in Pakistan is all powerful and just too intimidating for minorities.
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Since you don’t even have knowledge of your own religion therefore I can now understand how alot of people like like you unfortunately have got negative impressive about Islam, just like you have a negative impression that islam is too intimidating for minorities in Pakistan.
But still I would think that how an educated person like you can stereotype a whole country/religion just on the basis of one man’s conversion of his religion.
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I am not stereotyping anybody. It is just hard for me to understand why all you people are so ecstatic about the conversion (judging from the posts). Maybe I should read up on Islam and all the stuff about believers/non-believers etc.
Also, nobody has yet answered PhoenixDesi’s very valid question, if a Muslim were to convert to Hinduism , how would the Mullahs react ? Would they declare a fatwa on the person…the topic is not appropriate for the sports section but very pertinent.
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This statement is not in a good taste. Only ALLAH:swt: knows what’s in the heart.
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You make so much sense, my friend. Unfortunately, most sheep on these forums would not be able to respond to you.
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No need to go to a Mullah to look for answers. We just need to go through our holy book to look for every answer. Unfortunately the foreign media has potrayed a very negative impression of Islam in front of the world that Islam is governed by extremist Mullahs and people like you my friend with no knowledge of Islam are believing all this crap.