Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
1- give me the proof because I still have to see it.
2- The first line of the constitution of govt. of pakistan says: Soveriegnity belongs to ALLAH and we are the custodians of His commands on the face of earth.
3- IF… well Qadiyaanies already have been saying that.
Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
Anything else you have to say to cover your bigoted butt?
Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
they should have agreed to the constitution of pakistan as of 74. If you do not follow the constitution, no wonder it could happen though I still have to see where this thing happened.
Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
cover? hahahaha… bolti bund ho gayee?
Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
Thats the problem, You have to go and try to apply in the Army…
Go talk to Ahmedis.. I know its hard because you froth at the mouth at the site of one, but ask them the problems they face in you great Islamic republic..
The Second line of the constitution is the problem… The govt has no authority in this manner… Pakistan is not the country its founders intended for it to be, Jinnah and his colleagues wanted a state where all are free to worship as they like, because religous faith is not the bussiness of the state..
Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
paKpatriot1: are you Qadiyani too?
Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
^ does it matter? what if i am , how wud that make me a better or worse muslim?
Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
Why would they agree with the constituion..
But they havent protested against it either…
They only claim to Islam is the way they worship which is the same as the Sunnis, this is just a part of their faith…
http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/inscr/mar/assessment.asp?groupId=77001
Active persecution of the Ahmadiyya sect by the Pakistan government was instituted by a martial law decree on April 26, 1984. Under the decree, all Ahmadis were declared infidels. In addition, all manifestations of Ahmadi religious practices have become punishable by law. Ahmadis have been singled out for discriminatory treatment within the government bureaucracy, and individual Ahmadis have been the targets of acts of violence, especially in rural areas (COMCON98=4). Many of the more affluent Ahmadis have left Pakistan since the 1984 decree.
Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
No I just believe in defending all oppressed Pakistani… As a PAKISTANI its our duty to defend people against people like you.
Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
Qadiyanies being declaring someone else the prophet after Muhammad:saw: are considered out if Islam by a thorough consensus of all the muslims around the world:
Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
Since 1984, the legal apparatus in Pakistan has actively tried to criminalise the Ahmadis’ faith. Ahmadis suffer from numerous restrictions on religious freedom and widespread societal discrimination, including violation of their places of worship, banning of burial in Muslim graveyards, denial of freedom of faith, speech, and assembly, and restrictions on their press.
http://www.hrdc.net/sahrdc/hrfeatures/HRF52.htm
Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
from reading all of your posts i got one think that allah doesn't feed us, it's aga khanis, hindus, and west that feed us, right. SHAME ON ALL OF US( IF YOU ARE MUSLIM AND STILL BELIEVE THIS) i am not saying to matsui and atlantis, because what i understood from their every post is that they are not muslims.
i don't know what aga khanis believe in so i will not speak on that matter, but if every mullahs from every sects believe that they are non muslims, then i have to believe too.
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as I said, do not confuse people by calling it Islam when it is not. Had they called it some other thing than Islam, those restrictions would’ve never been imposed to stop the fitnah.
There is no Prophet after Muhammad:saw: and to declare one after him is something which history is also aware of when Sayadana Abu Bakar:razi: fought against the blesphemous announcement of being a prophet by Muselima Kadhab. Had we known our history, the things would have been totally different in the minds of todays muslim.
Re: Pakistani clerics seeking decree to declare Aga Khanis infidels
I guess you should also find out the reasons from all the mullahs before making up your mind on that.
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It seems on one is interested in topic,
Ibn-e-Insha once wrote in his book
** aik daira Islam ka hota hia, pehley logon ko ismey dakhil kia jata tha, Lekin ajkal Dakhla mana hai. Ab sirf kharij(kick out) kia jata hai**
It will be constructive if we try to develop our iman, instead of declaring ppl kafir and again extra kafir.