Pakistani charity allegedly funded airline bomb plot

Society Pakistan & World Affairs
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How low can these jihadi groups get? Money sent to help people is diverted to kill? Some of you will still keep on asking “where is the proof”? Proof is right in front of your eyes!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060815/pl_afp/britainusattacksairlineprobecharities_060815124848

Tue Aug 15, 8:48 AM ET

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A Pakistani charity that received 10 million dollars from Britain for earthquake relief last year reportedly helped finance the alleged bomb plot to blow up US-bound passenger jets. ADVERTISEMENT

“The innocent Pakistani souls in Britain who contributed so generously for the victims of the earthquake didn’t know that their money would actually be used for one of the biggest terrorist operations,” a Pakistani intelligence official told the Washington Post.

The charity was not mentioned by name, but the official said the funds traced to it helped investigators uncover the alleged plot British authorities thwarted last week and which US officials have tentantively linked to Al-Qaeda.

Another senior Pakistani intelligence official said the charity had received some five million pounds (10 million dollars) from Britain, but that less than half was used for relief operations in the October earthquake that killed 73,000 people.

“British intelligence smelled foul play the moment the transfer was made in December last year,” said the senior official, who like his colleague asked not to be identified due to the ongoing nature of the investigation.

The New York Times on Monday said the British authorities were investigating whether the Jamaat-ud-Dawa Charity, active in the mosques of Britain’s largest cities, had provided money to some of the 23 suspects under arrest for the foiled bomb plot.

The charity, according to Pakistani and US officials cited by the Times, is believed to be the successor of Lashkar-e-Taiba, an Islamic militant group which the Pakistani government banned in 2002.

A British terrorism expert consulted by The Washington Post said the chaos that followed the devastating earthquake in northern Pakistan last year allowed Pakistani intelligence agents to learn more about the militant groups operating in the area.

A spokesman for Jamaat-Ud-Dawa reached by the Post denied any funding by his group of the bomb plot in Britain, insisting that the group condemned terrorism and that it was not under investigation by the Pakistani government.

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:bukbuk:

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Good response, keep laughing while this cancer continues to eat us from the inside.

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Key suspect still being interrogated in Pakistan

Duncan Campbell in Islamabad and Randeep Ramesh in Lahore
Wednesday August 16, 2006
The Guardian

The Briton described by the Pakistan authorities as a key figure in the alleged transatlantic airline plot has not yet had access to a lawyer or to British consular officials, it emerged last night. Rashid Rauf, arrested last week by the Pakistani police and alleged to have given information about a plot, is still being interrogated, a foreign ministry spokeswoman, Tasneem Aslam, said yesterday.
Asked if he had had access to a lawyer, she said: “I don’t think we have reached that stage yet.”

She said there had been no official request from the British authorities for his extradition and she would not comment on reports that Scotland Yard detectives are in Islamabad to interview Mr Rauf, who security sources say is being held in a safe house used for interrogation, rather than in a jail or police station. Concerns have been expressed by two Pakistan-based human rights groups that Mr Rauf may be facing torture as part of the interrogation. Britain has no extradition treaty with Pakistan, although they operate what Ms Aslam described as mutual assistance.

Mr Rauf was arrested in the Punjab, she said, along with an unspecified number of others whose names have not been given.

Hina Jilani, a lawyer and human rights specialist, said Mr Rauf was lucky because the government had admitted he had been taken into custody and interrogated.

“As far as we know no lawyer has been approached to represent him,” Ms Jilani said. “But in this country people just disappear for two or three years. It is not unusual at all. He is lucky because people know who he is and what has happened to him. There will be due process to follow. What we have seen is that under the guise of anti-terrorism people have vanished. Mr Rauf has not, he is in custody.”

Mr Rauf can be held for one month without charge, a process that can be repeated for up to a year.

There is a widely held suspicion in Pakistan that the plot has been cooked up to divert the world’s press from events in the Middle East. Qazi Hussain Ahmad, leader of the radical Islamic party Jamaat-e-Islami, told the Guardian that the apparent plot to bomb passenger planes was a “well-orchestrated ploy to divert the attention from the massacre of innocents of Lebanon by Israel”.

Ms Aslam dismissed the suggestions. “This is something too serious to be made up by any government. This was for real.”

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These people are totally screwed up.....

These use the name of Allah to kill innocent people and to push forward their mis-guided agenda

These people are not Muslims

the only thing they know about Islam is when to pray and where to bow their heads

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I agree with the jew mercenary2k that non-muslim terrorists need to be apprehended. Non-muslims have to solve their society's problems.

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its a very sad situation if amant given to this charity to help people who became homeless, lost their limbs, widows, orphans... is instead diverted to be given to scumbag terrorists. It may not be the whole charity itself, but some morons who not only violated the trust placed into them by their colleagues, but also the trust that was the amanat, to help the needy. what an utter shame. I am really hoping this is not true. this is wrong on so many fronts...

there are idiots who betray the trust of those who entrust them with a task, I know of some recent case right here where a moron of the highest order who is alking on very thin ice now, violated the trust placed in him by his team to ake his own political statement (hint to the weasel...i got you now sucker)

How would you feel if you were a volunteer at this charity working hard to raise funds to help yoru fellow countrymen and then d=find out that the guy working next to you took all that money and did khiyanat in that amanat, ie.e. used the funds for his own reasons rather than going to the needywho they were or. tsk tsk

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Whats about the charity received by PK govt.?????.

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if that is being misapropriated and misused that is bad, shameful and a sad state of affairs as well.

now comign back to the topic at hand...I think teh charity should be investigated and the person responsible face the law. I do hope that this does not impact th etrust the ppl have in Pakistani charities as they donate thru them to needy ppl in Pakistan. many ppl still need help.

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...al- rasheed trust,jamaat dawa,al khidmat and other mullah run organisations did the most excellent job in earthquake hit areas..100000 times more then western supported NGO,s who were more interested in publishing of their photographs in newspaper .....even musharaf mentioned jehadis and mullah organisations doing excellent job....and infact people believe on religious charity organisations more then any non religious organisation and one of the another major example is alamgir welfare trust at behadurabad in karachi....
khekhashan darling just ask any army banda abt the work of those mullah run organisations....our government officials and NGO,s have made huge amount of money from earthquake disaster but no one talks abt tht...

by the way,u can search for some articles written by javed chaudhry and others paying tribute to the work of "jehadis" on jang newsapaper site..come out of computer games life and sense the actual world...just recently in dawn newsoer sunday edition,an article was written by a lady praising jamat ud dawa...

americans r still unable to proved 9/11 osama drama...and u r talking abt this fake terror alerts hahahaa..come on man..in war and love,everything is allow and americans and british people know tht.....

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If this is true and as far as i am concerned its a big IF then truely truely shame on them. Without going into too many details and considering they have their own view of western socities they have broken the very basic principals of Islam by dishonestly using these funds for the purpose they were not entrusted for. But my only doubt is that when post 9/11 islamic charities are so strictly monitored then how come british gov allowed such huge some to be transferred to a charity it already suspects. why it reamined quite for a year waiting and risking lives of its citizens........ May be waiting for good moment...... I cannot completely write off the suggestion that it was designed to relief Israel. These are few options but i cant make up my mind as what to believe really.

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You mean 'The Presidents Fund'.

That was largely eaten up by corrupt govt officials, as usual

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^For crying out loud...
And what of the unauditable unquestionable big/small/legal/illegal NGOs who've found a goldmine in the disater? They can collect what they want and use it where they want?

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i agree with GUY1

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I don't need the clueless journos of Yahoo or New York Times to tell me about the extremism problem in Pakistan. Pakistan does have an extremism problem and we need to deal with it. However, I don't see any proofs in these artricles. A couple of days ago, I read that an investigation was going on about the role of a UK based charity in this terror plot. Its possible that this anonymous intelligence offcial is talking about the reported role of some charity that is not based in Pakistan but has its influence, branches or workers working in Pakistan. But its mere speculation until some investigation is concluded by British and Pakistani authorities.

What many people fail to comprehend is that these organizations have no clearly laid down command hierarchy or financial system. Our charity system (like that of many other Islamic societies) is also shrouded in mystery. I don't blame those who want to contribute to a good cause without attracting any publicity. But you have to hold these charitites responsible for every cent they receive and spend. For this purpose, all these charities, madrassas and NGO's must be legally bound to publish their financial statements. They should also be forced to bring transparency to their financial dealings. (No hawala system). Hence you can trace all the money and find out where and for what purpose this money is being spent.

A word of caution here! You can not defeat extremism only by killing/arresting extremist leaders or drying up their resources. You have to educate and emancipate the society to get rid of this evil.

I didn't know that Jamat-ud-dawa (sp?) is LT. Unfortunately many extremist organizatoins (and I'm primarily talking about those that were involved in sectarian killings in Pakistan) have resurfaced with new names and with very little dilution of their extremist ideologies. So far as I know, LT was involved in struggle against Indian occupation of Kashmir (just like Makti Bahni 'terrorsits' were involved in a violent struggle against Pakistani suppression, while their leaders found safe haven in India), but, like many other extremist groups they went out of control and now are involved in activities that are in no way in the interest of Pakistan. Therefore Pakistan must move against these organizations for her own sake.

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When did I say otherwise?

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I dont know if the charity in question is mullah run or non mullah run. Your point about some of the religious groups doing tremendous amount of work is well taken, it is a fact.

I will break my repsonse into seperate oints so they dont confuse each other.

  1. religious organizations did tremendous amount of work, no question
  2. other organizations did a lot of good work too, whether all these organizations were really concerned or whether it was a publicity stunt or combo is up to peropl’s individual viewpoints
  3. just because someone did a lot of good work does not mean that they should not be held accountable, secular NGO, religious charity, govt departments, individual contributors tc etc
  4. my post was not anti mullah to begin with, but about amanat i.e. funds intended for one use and arbritrarily decided by someone in thatorganization to go for some alleged illegal use
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Pir Sahib-

I am 100% sure that this issue about not naming the organisation was raised just to creat suspicion in the minds of muslims around the world so that the participation of these organisations in welfare activities is stopped.

Major islamic NGo are
1-Ar rasheed trust
2-Jamat ud dawah
3-Al khidmat
4-Al akhtar trust
5-Al rehmat trust

i have seen the control system of atleat one of these NGOs i-e Ar rasheed trust and i am sure that they are very strict in terms of amanat.same can be applied to other organisation.
A donation for some specific purpose will only be used for that specific purpose only.

This propaganda will die its own death inshallah.

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the foreign office has denied this story

taken from the bbc speaking with spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam:
But on one thing they are adamant - suggestions that money intended for victims of last year's earthquake in Kashmir was somehow diverted to would-be bombers in Britain through Pakistani-based charities were, in the words of the foreign ministry spokeswoman, "completely absurd and cast an unfair slur on Pakistan".

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  1. i agree with u tht other organisations also did well..but the bikao NGO,s r no good to be provided funds nor our government is…all i say tht y people always criticize mullahs or madrasas…many times people dont even have clue wht they r talking abt…

  2. i 100% agree with u..accountability must be maintined.

  3. when if someone did tht,then he should be punish…but again,i dont believe on fake terror plot of destroying planes…